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 11/07/2008 12:43:11 PM · #26
Count me in too, please. I think that composition is currently the weakest aspects of my photos... And I really think it's because I don't know enough about the technicals.

My personal motto when respect to photography is
'You gotta know the rules before you can choose to break them'
 11/07/2008 12:58:13 PM · #27
I think technical hypothesis and composition discussion is an increadable oppertunity to learn and grow. This is actually what my DPCO team does on a small scale with continuing contributing members. Although we dont comment on the winners only our personal work. But open discussion is always a great thing.

Will someone possibly be able to enlighten me as to why the voters move in the directions they do? =^)
 11/07/2008 12:58:26 PM · #28
Zeus, Barry, Edward, are you guys interested in joining us for this discussion?

Message edited by author 2008-11-07 12:58:57.
 11/07/2008 01:00:46 PM · #29
Originally posted by onesaint:
I think technical hypothesis and composition discussion is an increadable oppertunity to learn and grow. This is actually what my DPCO team does on a small scale with continuing contributing members. Although we dont comment on the winners only our personal work. But open discussion is always a great thing.

Will someone possibly be able to enlighten me as to why the voters move in the directions they do? =^)


This is one of the questions I hope to touch upon based on some of the discussion within the group, and is why instead of individual photos, i have chosen to discuss the winners of a particular challenge.
11/07/2008 01:04:59 PM · #30
I'll be watching this thread to join in on the discussion after the pic is picked :)
 11/07/2008 01:09:25 PM · #31
Originally posted by smudgeSMJ:
I'll be watching this thread to join in on the discussion after the pic is picked :)


Hi Smudge,

We are not going to be running this on site, if you would like to be part of the group you are more than welcome however.


11/07/2008 01:11:31 PM · #32
Originally posted by Hot_Pixel:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by smichener:
I'd like to do this too if there's still room. This could be a great learning opportunity.

Ummm...if it's a public forum I'd imagine many people will be able to "discuss" and "participate". Should be interesting. Good idea Rich!


I was acutually going to run this on a side group such as yahoo, or google.. That way we would have more focus and individual attention. I wasnt really thinking of running it as a public forum. But I suppose the people who are participating can make that decision when we are starting.

I hope you all will consider keeping the discussion on DPC. It could be an extremely valuable tool for people who want to learn more about composition regardless of their contributions as commenters, both in real time and for newer photographers to look back through past discussions.
 11/07/2008 01:25:31 PM · #33
Originally posted by Hot_Pixel:
Originally posted by onesaint:
I think technical hypothesis and composition discussion is an increadable oppertunity to learn and grow. This is actually what my DPCO team does on a small scale with continuing contributing members. Although we dont comment on the winners only our personal work. But open discussion is always a great thing.

Will someone possibly be able to enlighten me as to why the voters move in the directions they do? =^)


This is one of the questions I hope to touch upon based on some of the discussion within the group, and is why instead of individual photos, i have chosen to discuss the winners of a particular challenge.


Agreed, I think choosing the winning images (or image) is essential to the origional thread idea.

Fwiw, I think goign offsite will allow for a certain amount of autonomy. Besides, isnt this idea whats supposed to be happening on the images here anyway?
I mean the claims that this is a "learning" site are abundant. Imho, If that were 100% true, I would think more detailed descriptions would be placed by the image authors and more constructive feedback would be left by voters.
 11/07/2008 01:33:55 PM · #34
I'd be interested - I need serious help to get out of my "too busy" phase. But I would like to ask why it would take place elsewhere. I have a hard enough time keeping up with here, and with the Google group for my Olympic team. Wouldn't it be a good thing to keep here, on a learning site, and perhaps even bring more focus to the "learning" aspect of this site?
 11/07/2008 01:51:15 PM · #35
I would suggest maybe one more image from each challenge. I have found that every challenge their is a voter favorite that although it doesn't win, will gather the most favs or comments in the challenge, even more than the winner before it sits on the front page and gathers exposure and more comments. I think finding this image, that really connects strongly with a part of the voter base is worth study. Its not too hard to find if you voted in the challenge, or look through the results to see who had the most favs or comments after the challenge. Just a thought.
 11/07/2008 02:17:21 PM · #36
Can we do a locked to subscribers thread here?

The benefit that I see to hosting it on someplace like flickr is a group that is more or less dedicated to the discussion will be the ones aloud to utilize the group. I think allowing others to see/read and join in is fantastic for learning, but having random posts wont foster a discussion, but rather a random comment section as we have now.

That said, I am a paying subscriber and supporter of this site and if at all possible would rather have it here (to foster learning) as long as the thought behind the OP can be met.

Also, I agree that more than one photo a week might be a worthwhile consideration.
 11/07/2008 02:19:45 PM · #37
Personally, I think it might be more effective/interesting to discuss photos which finish in the middle of the pack than the winners -- they already get enough attention. Or, pick samples from the top ten, middle ten, and bottom ten, or even some number of randomly-chosen photos. I think there's more to be learned by analyzing "failures" than agreeing that the top pictures are "successful."

Another idea would be to look for pictures with similar subjects, and compare why one got a better response than the other(s) ...
 11/07/2008 02:27:28 PM · #38
I'm interested... but I do hope that it can stay on-site. My reason for saying this is that I won't consider joining if it's run as a Yahoo Group (long history on that), and I do hope that I'm able to participate; I really like the idea.
Also, keeping it here on DPC would:
- Allow all the image linking features and other niceties of the DPC forums
- Generate interest and learning in the community at large
- Allow the photographers of the images being discussed to see/participate in the discussion
 11/07/2008 02:43:36 PM · #39
Originally posted by kirbic:
I'm interested... but I do hope that it can stay on-site. My reason for saying this is that I won't consider joining if it's run as a Yahoo Group (long history on that), and I do hope that I'm able to participate; I really like the idea.
Also, keeping it here on DPC would:
- Allow all the image linking features and other niceties of the DPC forums
- Generate interest and learning in the community at large
- Allow the photographers of the images being discussed to see/participate in the discussion


Hi Kirbic,

While I agree in principle to what you are stating and suggesting above, I was considering leaving puting offsite as to keep the focus in the group and minimize the outbursts of thread trolls. I will take all of these suggestions to heart as I finalize the idea. Perhaps we can run both, a thread here that welcomes all peoples input about the particular photos of interest, and a offsite group that can get more in depth with our analysis.


11/07/2008 02:48:53 PM · #40
Originally posted by kirbic:
I'm interested... but I do hope that it can stay on-site.

Maybe we should just start a thread ... ;-)

What if we pick five pictures, those which finished closest to the 10th, 30th, 50th, 70th, and 90th percentile rankings, or a similar formula which can pick the photos for us?
 11/07/2008 02:56:13 PM · #41
I like that idea, Paul. If Rich still wants to start a group offline, that's cool, but I'd be happy to participate in one here. I also like Joe's idea of picking a shot that garners a lot of comments or favs during a challenge, but perhaps not a great score.

A suggestion: shots to discuss would be: the Red Ribbon, the closest to the 10th, 30th, 50th, 70th, and 90th percentiles as you mentioned, and the shot with the most comments during the challenge that didn't make the top 10.
 11/07/2008 02:57:33 PM · #42
I would also love to participate.

Message edited by author 2008-11-07 15:09:12.
 11/07/2008 02:57:40 PM · #43
Originally posted by Hot_Pixel:
Zeus, Barry, Edward, are you guys interested in joining us for this discussion?


Not me, but thanks. I'm too busy as it is :)
 11/07/2008 03:45:15 PM · #44
Originally posted by Melethia:
I like that idea, Paul. If Rich still wants to start a group offline, that's cool, but I'd be happy to participate in one here. I also like Joe's idea of picking a shot that garners a lot of comments or favs during a challenge, but perhaps not a great score.

A suggestion: shots to discuss would be: the Red Ribbon, the closest to the 10th, 30th, 50th, 70th, and 90th percentiles as you mentioned, and the shot with the most comments during the challenge that didn't make the top 10.

If we add the last-place finisher we'll have 8 pictures in the pool -- I like using binary multiples when possible, :-)

What's the rationale for using the Red Ribbon winner?
 11/07/2008 04:18:40 PM · #45
No rationale, really. Figure the Blue usually gets discussed a bit in the comments; I suppose the Red does as well. Maybe 6th place instead? Just figured a top ten would be good to include.
 11/07/2008 04:26:25 PM · #46
Sixth (or maybe tenth) was my reaction -- the ones which just miss even an Honorable Mention.

I don't know how hard it's going to be to pick these out from the results. It also might be too many pictures, at least until we see how such a discussion would go, and whether it would be posted in the forum thread or the photos' discussion threads, or both.
 11/07/2008 06:42:20 PM · #47
I will keep it up on the site, I think we have enough people who are willing to participate if kept on the site to justify that, however please help me keep the thread as civil as possible so everyone can learn from it. I am going to close participation now and start a new thread for this. I am going to take describe better in that one the process and how we will choose the photos we will study. I am happy that there is so much interest in this subject.

I will post a link to the new thread once created I am going to put it into the side challenge thread.
11/07/2008 07:04:49 PM · #48
I have created another thread in the side challenge area of the site:

//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=842215&page=1#5051348

Please let me know if the layout I have proposed works or we need to modify it a bit more, I really want this to work out for everyone in the thread and promote learning on the site.

Rich
11/07/2008 07:05:43 PM · #49
Can I play?
 11/07/2008 07:34:56 PM · #50
Originally posted by Hot_Pixel:
Zeus, Barry, Edward, are you guys interested in joining us for this discussion?


Yes.
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