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 04/17/2004 11:29:46 PM · #1
Tomorrow morning, I will be returning my 300D for a full refund. Today I went to the local Ritz store and tested out the D70, and besides the lighter weight, it just felt way more comfortable in my hands. That being said, I cant return the 2 512MB Sandisk Compact Flash cards because well the package was thrown out. So, I will be selling them for $125 dollars each if anyone is interested in them. I also have an extra canon battery which I will let go for $50. If anyone is interested in these, send me a private message and we will see what we can work out =)

Look out Nikon family here I come!
 04/17/2004 11:40:22 PM · #2
Why would you get rid of your CF cards?

04/17/2004 11:40:24 PM · #3
I really do not know what cf cards the Canon takes but please be certain that they are different then the cf card required for the D70. I use Sandisk cf cards for my D70 and they work fine. Have a 256 Ultra. 256 regular. And a pair of 128's.
 04/17/2004 11:41:31 PM · #4
I find that very insulting :P

Why? Was there anything you didn't like in the 300D?

Good luck with it :)
 04/17/2004 11:44:47 PM · #5
The spot metering for one was a concern. Also, the weight difference *from what I could tell today* was very noticable. Ohhh if the nikon uses the same CF cards that would be swell!
 04/18/2004 12:02:04 AM · #6
Originally posted by outofreachx:
The spot metering for one was a concern. Also, the weight difference *from what I could tell today* was very noticable. Ohhh if the nikon uses the same CF cards that would be swell!


a CF card is a Cf card, works in both canon and nikon.
 04/18/2004 12:03:06 AM · #7
Originally posted by hsteg:
Originally posted by outofreachx:
The spot metering for one was a concern. Also, the weight difference *from what I could tell today* was very noticable. Ohhh if the nikon uses the same CF cards that would be swell!


a CF card is a Cf card, works in both canon and nikon.


Awesome, thats mucho good news!
 04/18/2004 12:44:15 AM · #8
Originally posted by outofreachx:
Look out Nikon family here I come!


Welcome to the Dark Side! (muuuuwwaaaaahhhh!)
 04/18/2004 12:48:26 AM · #9
you are concern about the spot metering but you don't even know the difference between cf cards? xP
 04/18/2004 12:51:27 AM · #10
Originally posted by outofreachx:
Also, the weight difference *from what I could tell today* was very noticable. Ohhh if the nikon uses the same CF cards that would be swell!

Er, the 300D is lighter than the D70...
 04/18/2004 02:39:38 AM · #11
it feels better in the hand, from what I understand he is saying. that to me is a big selling point, considering alot of these cameras are very comparable to each other, image wise.
 04/18/2004 03:54:44 AM · #12
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Er, the 300D is lighter than the D70...

The kit lens is also SUBSTANTIALLY heavier than the Canon one - on the up side it appears to be the only lens in existance that goes all the way from 18-70 so it's a price I was happy to pay.

Now if Sigma or someone can produce me a nice 15-100 lens that's good and light, I'll be a happy bunny :-)
 04/18/2004 07:33:41 AM · #13
Not exactly a discount selling the battery for the same price as new ....I think I'll pass.
 04/18/2004 08:08:43 AM · #14
Thanks for memories :)
 04/18/2004 09:59:21 AM · #15
Originally posted by TerryGee:
Not exactly a discount selling the battery for the same price as new ....I think I'll pass.


Considering the battery cost 70 dollars, I think 20 dollars is a nice discount. Especially since the battery has been used once in the entire month I've had it.
 04/18/2004 10:29:50 AM · #16
i'm still not understanding the flash card thing. why would you sell the two flash cards? CF works in the D70. i can see if you're selling them to get larger, or faster cards, but the ones you have will work in the D70...
04/18/2004 10:34:43 AM · #17
Originally posted by jxpfeer:
i'm still not understanding the flash card thing. why would you sell the two flash cards? CF works in the D70. i can see if you're selling them to get larger, or faster cards, but the ones you have will work in the D70...


I believe he has since realized the CF cards are the same and is keeping them. There was another thread just about the CF cards.

Message edited by author 2004-04-18 10:34:58.
 04/18/2004 04:20:07 PM · #18
Just makes sure the date/year on the new camera is correct :)
 04/19/2004 09:11:45 AM · #19
Originally posted by outofreachx:
Originally posted by TerryGee:
Not exactly a discount selling the battery for the same price as new ....I think I'll pass.


Considering the battery cost 70 dollars, I think 20 dollars is a nice discount. Especially since the battery has been used once in the entire month I've had it.


B&H has it new for 49.95
battery
 04/19/2004 09:29:39 AM · #20
Funny thread. You must be genius outo. LOL
If you are after the features that Nikon has which are not in the Canon or you think it makes you shot better images thats a valid reson to make that change, and that´s fine with me. But your resons are totaly freaked out.
Canon 300D is 645g but the Nikon is 720g, that is the D70 is considerably heavier. Also I don´t think you will be able to find anyone stubid enough to by used batteries for $50.
But I have no doubt the the Nikon is a very fine camera and I wish you a good luck with it and hope you will like it.
 04/19/2004 10:20:54 AM · #21
Originally posted by garlic:
Canon 300D is 645g but the Nikon is 720g, that is the D70 is considerably heavier.

The slightly heavier Nikon felt better in my hands, and this was one key reason for favouring it. Both cameras are superb, given their price bracket.
 04/19/2004 10:42:35 AM · #22
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Originally posted by garlic:
Canon 300D is 645g but the Nikon is 720g, that is the D70 is considerably heavier.

The slightly heavier Nikon felt better in my hands, and this was one key reason for favouring it. Both cameras are superb, given their price bracket.


I´m not saying that 75g makes a lot of difference. Just pointing it out since one of outofreachx´s resons to make the change was that D70 was lighter thand 300D.
Just to have it clear then I´m in no campain for Canon and I think it´s very positive for people buye the D70 since it seems to be a great camera. But I just got my Rebel few days ago and still I very happy with it (and hopefully will continue).
 04/19/2004 10:53:50 AM · #23
A heavier camera is actually a "good thing" to me.

The heavier an object is, the harder it is to move. Take a light object (like a pencil) and try to hold it perfectly steady. Now take a heavier object (like a book) and do the same thing. It is easier to hold the heavier object still (there is probably a Newton's law to explain this, but I'm too lazy to look it up. =]). Additional ballast is one of the principals behind the Steadicam, which allows such fluid, non-jumpy shots even though the video camera operator is walking/running/etc.

I have the BG-ED3 vertical grip on my 10D, and even though one battery goes a long way, I always keep two batteries in the grip to add even more balast.

One advantage of the 300D over the D70 is that it also has an optional BG-E1 vertical grip which can be used to increse the size and weight. Almost everyone who has used a vertical grip thinks they are the greatest thing since sliced bread (I love mine), and the extra size/weight is just an added benefit to improving the overall balance and stability of the camera.

Message edited by author 2004-04-19 11:09:20.
 04/19/2004 11:05:38 AM · #24
RE: Newton's Law... that would be inertia. A more massive object takes more effort to move or change direction, therefore it's easier to keep steady. Good luck with your new[er] toy, Jeremy.
 04/19/2004 11:13:41 AM · #25
Originally posted by EddyG:
The heavier an object is, the harder it is to move. Take a light object (like a pencil) and try to hold it perfectly steady. Now take a heavier object (like a book) and do the same thing. It is easier to hold the heavier object still.


Now hold the the heavier object (like a book) for several hours and see if you can keep it steadier than a light object (like a pencil).

The fact is, that unless you are talking about huge differences in weight, the difference in weight between the D70 and 300D/10D with or without the grip are not significant, at least with respect to holding the camera steady enough for some shots, and especially considering the way one usually holds an slr.
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