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10/13/2008 03:13:01 PM · #1
Long time no see! It's been a while since I've been on DPC (several years in fact), however I still know it's the best place for advice!

My dad wants a zoomy (10x optical or more) integrated camera. I've looked at the Panasonic Lumix FZ28, which seems to fit the bill. Dad has been borrowing my old 300D with 10-22mm and 75-300mm and likes wide angle and telephoto, so I like the FZ28 being 27mm at the wide end.

I'm not interested in the newest technology or playing the megapixel game, it just needs to work well and have good optical performance through the range. I seem to remember Canon selling some integrated cameras with an L-range lens?

Can anyone offer alternatives to the FZ28 or any other good options for around the 250 GBP mark?

Thanks in advance for the advice.

(To preempt the inevitable - he does not want a DSLR!)

Message edited by author 2008-10-13 15:15:36.
10/13/2008 03:15:42 PM · #2
I have a Canon S2 IS and my daughter liked it so well that she bought the S5 IS. That zoom, as well as the super-macro, is what I really miss on the DSLR.
10/13/2008 03:41:28 PM · #3
I also have an S5 IS and it's a great little camera. I still can't beat my highest score here that was taken with it. Canon has just announced their replacement for it, so the S5 may be available at clearance pricing soon enough. Your dad will probably like the swivel screen and the fact that is used standard rechargeable AA batteries.

I like to call this class of cameras "advanced compacts", though most folks here lump them in with point & shoots.
10/13/2008 04:20:16 PM · #4
Been happy with my 2 pannys - the old FZ10 and the slightly newer FZ5 which is handier and faster - so I imagine the FZ28 is even more so. Though we know about the noise, the pixel cramming, and the not terrific high ISOs. On the other hand the build works very well for me, and the Leica lens is nothing to sneeze at.

Certainly agree with ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' yospiff about terminology: my 'real' point and shoot is the little Nikon L10.
10/13/2008 04:41:38 PM · #5
Originally posted by yospiff:

I also have an S5 IS and it's a great little camera. I still can't beat my highest score here that was taken with it. Canon has just announced their replacement for it, so the S5 may be available at clearance pricing soon enough. Your dad will probably like the swivel screen and the fact that is used standard rechargeable AA batteries.

I like to call this class of cameras "advanced compacts", though most folks here lump them in with point & shoots.


Nodnodnodnod!! My only ribbon was with (and of) the S2. It's great as a literal point&shoot, yet it has loads of functions and flexibility if he wants more control.
10/13/2008 04:43:34 PM · #6
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll point dad in the direction of the Canon S models.

One more fussy requirement is to have an eyepiece. I don't suppose the S series cameras have eyepieces?

I'll bear in mind the noise issue. My Lumix FX01 isn't perfect noise wise (there's no noise, but a fairly smooth image), which I didn't consider for a higher res camera.

Thanks again.
10/13/2008 05:22:46 PM · #7
Paul, don't overlook the Nikon P80. It goes from 27mm wide to 486 mm (18 x) zoom.

Here's the DPReview link for all the P80 stats.

10/13/2008 07:07:13 PM · #8
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

One more fussy requirement is to have an eyepiece. I don't suppose the S series cameras have eyepieces?


Yes they do. You can frame up on both the screen and through the electronic viewfinder
10/13/2008 10:07:13 PM · #9
Well, no viewfinder, but I'm enjoying my new Canon SX110 with 10x optical, 3" display and image stabilization. It has the Digic III, only does JPG at the moment though I expect the wizards doing the CHDK hacks to offer a RAW version for it shortly.

It's no sports camera, but has a nice feature set, easy to operate--it even has flash exposure compensation. For $299 it was a good value. And it keeps me from getting kicked out of places like my big cam causes. Today I went back to someplace where I got hassled off with the Mk III and a 24-70, and nobody even approached me using an LCD back.
10/14/2008 01:30:09 AM · #10
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Long time no see! It's been a while since I've been on DPC (several years in fact), however I still know it's the best place for advice!

My dad wants a zoomy (10x optical or more) integrated camera. I've looked at the Panasonic Lumix FZ28, which seems to fit the bill. Dad has been borrowing my old 300D with 10-22mm and 75-300mm and likes wide angle and telephoto, so I like the FZ28 being 27mm at the wide end.

I'm not interested in the newest technology or playing the megapixel game, it just needs to work well and have good optical performance through the range. I seem to remember Canon selling some integrated cameras with an L-range lens?

Can anyone offer alternatives to the FZ28 or any other good options for around the 250 GBP mark?

Thanks in advance for the advice.

(To preempt the inevitable - he does not want a DSLR!)


I've had my eye on the FZ28 - it looks like a great little camera. Everyone I know who's had a Panny completely loves them. Sure the ISO performance isn't a strong point (though apparently this improves on the FZ18) but how much would you pay for a Leica 27-486mm IS SLR lens?
10/14/2008 07:53:10 AM · #11
Thanks everyone. I've put them side by side on DPReview and dad can see what he thinks.

//www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_s5is%2Cnikon_cpp80%2Cpanasonic_dmcfz28&show=all
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