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10/01/2008 11:17:55 PM · #1 |
I say no. I think DPC has lost too many good photographers over the years and the new ones just haven't been up to par.
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10/01/2008 11:36:55 PM · #2 |
I would agree, I miss seeing the  Larus entries and the Librodo entries, but I do enjoy seeing Irene poppin up on the home page as well as yourself, and Tim, but it does seem like once people hit that streak of ribbons, its like they choose to drop out of dpc. Almost the whole ribbonhog team if not all of them have dropped out.
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10/01/2008 11:37:41 PM · #3 |
Depends what 'par' is to a person I guess. I think this is a pretty fun game, though the editing rules should be dumped. 1x.com seems to be a better venue for more serious work, and I'd guess that's the sort of work you are missing.
Message edited by author 2008-10-01 23:38:14. |
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10/01/2008 11:39:48 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by ryand:
Almost the whole ribbonhog team if not all of them have dropped out. |
Interesting. I wonder if the lack of the DPL has anything to do with this?
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10/01/2008 11:45:46 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by ryand:
Almost the whole ribbonhog team if not all of them have dropped out. |
Man, what am I, chopped liver? |
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10/01/2008 11:51:42 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Man, what am I, chopped liver? |
Haha. Good one. Anyway, I have to disagree, Yanko. Yes, some terrific photographers have stopped submitting, but today while starting to vote on this month's free study, I was really impressed by some images. We're very hard on the photographs, but many of them are certainly magazine worthy if not gallery worthy. |
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10/02/2008 12:24:49 AM · #7 |
I think the free study still atracks some heavy hitters but I don't tend to see them in the weekly challenges.
I was wondering if it was worth considering that to enter the free study you have had to enter at least one weekly challenge in the month?
Anyway I miss some of the brilliant photographers who have left this site - not the ribbon winners but more the OOBIE's who were wonderful but misunderstood here like 'boysetsfire' and 'sevilduvarci'.
And DrAchoo you could NEVER be chopped liver and it's wonderful that even though your 'boys' have mostly fled, that you still hang around!
Oh and I think it's been WONDERFUL to watch the rise of  IreneM and [thumb]timfythetoo[/thumb] they have worked their way up to the heights of ribbon winners here and they are an inspiration with their consistency.
Message edited by author 2008-10-02 00:25:02. |
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10/02/2008 12:58:22 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by ryand:
Almost the whole ribbonhog team if not all of them have dropped out. |
Man, what am I, chopped liver? |
Who are you again????
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10/02/2008 07:49:50 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Thoughts? |
I think yer a bit jaded. :) |
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10/02/2008 08:20:01 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by yanko:
I say no. I think DPC has lost too many good photographers over the years and the new ones just haven't been up to par.
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Uhm, no. Except that for example Larus has participated in 17 challenges this year, the last one was FS August and I bet he's got an entry in the September FS, too.  Scalvert is still here, even if he takes part less in challenges (14 in 2008). Admitted, I miss De Sousa. Timfythetoo really rocks, not to speak of IreneM. And if you look here, you will find fabulous photographers like Brin, william88, Structor, MAK, senor_kasper, just to name a few. And I have heard of that Judi girl somewhere. |
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10/02/2008 10:41:41 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by ryand:
Almost the whole ribbonhog team if not all of them have dropped out. |
Man, what am I, chopped liver? |
lol, my bad Doc, I was sick of getting beat by you, so I blocked you out of my mind, totally unintentional.
Message edited by author 2008-10-02 10:46:17.
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10/02/2008 10:45:25 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by yanko:
I say no. I think DPC has lost too many good photographers over the years and the new ones just haven't been up to par.
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Uhm, no. Except that for example Larus has participated in 17 challenges this year, the last one was FS August and I bet he's got an entry in the September FS, too. Scalvert is still here, even if he takes part less in challenges (14 in 2008). Admitted, I miss De Sousa. Timfythetoo really rocks, not to speak of IreneM. And if you look here, you will find fabulous photographers like Brin, william88, Structor, MAK, senor_kasper, just to name a few. And I have heard of that Judi girl somewhere. |
I agree, my point about Larus, is that we used to see him in basically every challenge, same with[user] Scalvert[/user] and De Sousa, but these other guys popping up are starting to take their place, and I hope to see some more stellar images out of them. I changed my position a bit from my first post.
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10/02/2008 10:56:17 AM · #13 |
I would have to say that Timfythetoo and IreneM have really shined this year with some outstanding work.
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10/02/2008 11:11:36 AM · #14 |
As the song goes, to everything there is a time and a season. I've seen a lot of people come and go, on this site in the last six years. Entering on a regular basis is work. As the genral ability on the site has improved, it is even harder for a person to dominate.
The photographer comes in, learns, starts improving, and then starts winning. If you are at the level on being able to win on a regular basis, you are a darned good photographer. I suspect that the departures are for a couple of reasons. One is that they start looking for another, bigger challenge. The second is, that they are good enough to start being in demand. If you are doing professional work, and trying to make money at being a photographer, that leaves even less time to work on challenges. And at some point something has to give, and you have already been there and done that.
Have we lost too many good photographers? There are people I do miss. At the same time, there will be another one along in a minute. As long as the departures are not due to unfairness on the part of the site, then it is what it is. If you look at the challenge entries today, versus the challenge entries of a few years ago, I believe the overall quality of the entries is higher. So while we have lost some, and some I do greatly miss, there are more good photographers here than ever. As proof I offer up the fact that I still have not won a ribbon. Were all the good photographers gone, I would stand a chance.
Message edited by author 2008-10-02 11:24:31. |
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10/02/2008 11:12:25 AM · #15 |
| I also missed Ursula . I love her work. |
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10/02/2008 11:17:02 AM · #16 |
| I have to wonder if maybe sometimes people get stuck more on the name than on the photography itself? |
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10/02/2008 11:21:55 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by GabrielS:
I also missed Ursula . I love her work. |
I'll second that!
Also, not so much for photography (although he did well), but for his voice, selflessness, and sharing... Skip |
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10/02/2008 11:33:38 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by GabrielS:
I also missed Ursula . I love her work. |
While she hasn't entered in awhile, she is still a member and active on the site. Her last post was less than 24 hours ago, and her last updates to her portfolio were yesterday. Perhaps she will drop in on this thread and give us her input as to why she hasn't entered in 11 months. But she certainly is not gone. |
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10/02/2008 11:39:48 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by GabrielS:
I also missed Ursula . I love her work. |
Oh, me too! So much so that I pm'd her a couple of months ago and asked if she was o.k. She said she was great, no problems. She was so encouraging and friendly towards me when I first joined dpc 2 years ago and I adored her work from day one. I'd LOVE to see her back in the challenges again. |
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10/02/2008 11:53:56 AM · #20 |
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10/02/2008 12:52:34 PM · #21 |
| You guys are forgetting Leroy. |
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10/02/2008 01:08:20 PM · #22 |
I think you have to look at the big picture as well. Look at improvement.
Just about everyone on Team Suck has gottn markedly better.....it used to be that we'd all crow when one of us got a 6......now most of us have quite a few of them, and I think if you counted up all the ribbons that all the members have garnered, it'd be a prety signifigant number......and very few of them are "Eye Candy" I'd venture to say.
There have certainly been individuals and members of WPL and DPL teams that have improved immensely as well, timfythetoo being a stellar example of that.
Also, I've seen an awful lot of work in the side challenges that is just stellar that never made it into regular challenges.
I certainly feel that there's a lot of support and camaraderie that helps to encourage and develop raw talent.
I know I'm MUCH better than I was when I got here......I may not be of your caliber, Richard, but at least you can look at my current work without gagging! LOL!!!
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10/02/2008 04:23:15 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by yanko:
I say no. I think DPC has lost too many good photographers over the years and the new ones just haven't been up to par.
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Uhm, no. Except that for example Larus has participated in 17 challenges this year, the last one was FS August and I bet he's got an entry in the September FS, too. Scalvert is still here, even if he takes part less in challenges (14 in 2008). Admitted, I miss De Sousa. Timfythetoo really rocks, not to speak of IreneM. And if you look here, you will find fabulous photographers like Brin, william88, Structor, MAK, senor_kasper, just to name a few. And I have heard of that Judi girl somewhere. |
I'm referring to the photography not who is shooting it. I only suggested maybe the slight difference I see in the work (my opinion of course) is a result of losing too many good photographers in a short period of time more so than we have gained. Many of the ones you did list haven't been participating as much lately and is partly the reason for why I came to that conclusion. Just to take Scalvert for example, nobody has filled his shoes. Not even close. Lets just say I wouldn't in a million years expect to see him repeat a shot yet that seems to be more acceptable for many of the current regulars. No disrepect intended just an observation that more people are more interested in scoring high at any costs to play the game and less and less are serious about creating new and engaging work. Even the OOBIE crowd's work seems a little lacking to me lately if that makes you feel better. :)
Message edited by author 2008-10-02 16:27:30. |
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10/02/2008 04:46:52 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
You guys are forgetting Leroy. |
No, we can never forget Leroy! He is etched in our minds forever...fotomann!! Cheeseman!!
Message edited by author 2008-10-02 16:47:26. |
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10/02/2008 04:50:42 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Just to take Scalvert for example, nobody has filled his shoes. Not even close. |
I really feel that timfythetoo is doing exactly that.
He seems to be in "The Zone" just like I remember Shannon being not so long ago.
He's showing funny, creative, talented work.
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