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09/25/2008 12:00:27 PM · #1 |
Would you rather see McCain or Obama as president? While it might not affect you as directly as it will the American people, it does affect some non-Americans as well. Just curious as to what the rest of the world thinks of the 2 possible new Presidents (And their VP choices). I'm not looking to start a debate, just wondering what the rest of the globe thinks.
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09/25/2008 12:02:29 PM · #2 |
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09/25/2008 12:16:06 PM · #3 |
I think Obama is no different than any other politician out there but given a choice I would like to see him rather than an experienced veteran who still thinks war is an option in today's world. McCain is a relic and his thoughts are so last century that when I hear him speak I keep thinking i'm watching a skit on SNL.
Good luck to you, my American friends.
Disclaimer; I attacked NOBODY except one person called John Sidney McCain III. I do not think of Americans the way I think of politicians, please do not mistake my comments as an attack on Americans. Thank you. |
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09/25/2008 12:21:02 PM · #4 |
Thank God and the Constitution the world doesn't get a say in our elections.
There's still a chance a Hero like McCain can win over a Zero like Obama.
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09/25/2008 12:37:12 PM · #5 |
Wow hawkeye, thats a little brutal. Both of these men want to do whats best for their country, are investing time and money into their country, care about and work for their country. A zero like Obama?
I guess that is one of the differences between the democrats and republicans- as a democrat, I can still appreciate and respect McCain even though I am voting for Obama. I guess arrogance and ignorance just comes naturally for those staunch conservatives. |
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09/25/2008 12:40:07 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Thank God and the Constitution the world doesn't get a say in our elections. |
And how was electing George Bush for a second term a good choice? :P |
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09/25/2008 12:41:30 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by amathiasphoto:
I guess arrogance and ignorance just comes naturally for those staunch conservatives. |
Now you must understand that this is not relegated to "staunch conservatives". Arrogance and ignorance crosses all party lines. All depends on the individual.
Message edited by author 2008-09-25 12:42:48. |
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09/25/2008 12:45:12 PM · #8 |
Timfy, I suppose you are right. I just get so SICK of people totally attacking the party they are against. Its great to be active, to take a side, and believe in what you want! I hate how dirty it gets though.
Yes, McCain is a good man, a war hero, someone who cares about his country, and has proven that he will sacrifice for it.
Yes, Obama is a good man, a symbol that anybody can do whatever they really set their mind to, and has proven that he really cares about this country.
They are both good people. Period. Stick to the issues, stick to what you and they believe, and leave it at that! |
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09/25/2008 12:46:25 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by amathiasphoto:
Wow hawkeye, thats a little brutal. Both of these men want to do whats best for their country, are investing time and money into their country, care about and work for their country. A zero like Obama?
I guess that is one of the differences between the democrats and republicans- as a democrat, I can still appreciate and respect McCain even though I am voting for Obama. I guess arrogance and ignorance just comes naturally for those staunch conservatives. |
No. If it were someone with some experience running ANYTHING successful or a longer term of service, I could respect them as a choice. Gore for example, was a nut, but he had experience. Lieberman is a great example of someone I disagree with on many issues, who is kind and respectful.
The left, including Obama, is so full of vile hatred (some for America the idea).
Obama is a media darling with nothing to offer except well-read speeches. A zero.
Biden would have been a better choice...
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09/25/2008 12:48:00 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by amathiasphoto:
Timfy, I suppose you are right. I just get so SICK of people totally attacking the party they are against. Its great to be active, to take a side, and believe in what you want! I hate how dirty it gets though. |
I am with you there. It was just that your initial response was portraying exactly what you intended to rail against.
Politics in general just seems to have become an excercise in futility. sigh... |
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09/25/2008 12:48:37 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by jeger:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Thank God and the Constitution the world doesn't get a say in our elections. |
And how was electing George Bush for a second term a good choice? :P |
Well, for starters it protected us from having President John Kerry. Egads!
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09/25/2008 12:50:06 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Jac:
I think Obama is no different than any other politician out there but given a choice I would like to see him rather than an experienced veteran who still thinks war is an option in today's world. McCain is a relic and his thoughts are so last century that when I hear him speak I keep thinking i'm watching a skit on SNL.... |
I, too, share this view.
I do not, at this time, know of anyone among my Canadian and International friends and acquaintances, who see it differently.
The global village is hungry for a little light after nearly a decade of darkness. |
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09/25/2008 12:50:50 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by amathiasphoto:
Timfy, I suppose you are right. I just get so SICK of people totally attacking the party they are against. Its great to be active, to take a side, and believe in what you want! I hate how dirty it gets though.
Yes, McCain is a good man, a war hero, someone who cares about his country, and has proven that he will sacrifice for it.
Yes, Obama is a good man, a symbol that anybody can do whatever they really set their mind to, and has proven that he really cares about this country.
They are both good people. Period. Stick to the issues, stick to what you and they believe, and leave it at that! |
I was sticking to the issues thank you very much. As I explained before. Obama is NOT a good man, based on his associations with vile, hateful people who seek to destroy this country. Based on his lack of any clear plan for improving this country.
I think he's probably an ok guy to sit and have a friendly discussion or lunch with. I think I would even enjoy being about Bill Clinton (not Hillary though). They can have wrong politics and still be decent enough.
If you hate dirty, look at the hate that has been dumped on Sarah Palin.
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09/25/2008 12:53:37 PM · #14 |
My thought? America is screwed either way.
Someone needs to tell Obama that flowery speeches about hope and change aren't policy.
McCain has flipped flopped so much he looks like a fresh caught cod.
There was some good candidates in both parties, but America chose some of the worst.
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09/25/2008 01:03:50 PM · #15 |
from outside the US
seeing a change is very important right now
you had 8 years of bush which gave you a black eye
McCain would have the same turkeys running the show & Palin is a joke
Obama would be a change & Biden makes a ok #2
given how fraked up the US is right now
if McCain died in office would you want a Presidnet Palin ?
if Obama died in Office would you want a President Biden .??
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09/25/2008 01:06:01 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by ralph:
from outside the US
seeing a change is very important right now
you had 8 years of bush which gave you a black eye
McCain would have the same turkeys running the show & Palin is a joke
Obama would be a change & Biden makes a ok #2
given how fraked up the US is right now
if McCain died in office would you want a Presidnet Palin ?
if Obama died in Office would you want a President Biden .?? |
I would take President Palin right now, but I don't mind waiting out 8 years of President McCain first.
And our 8 years of doing the right thing in spite of liberal world opinion does not give us a black eye.
Message edited by author 2008-09-25 13:06:33. |
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09/25/2008 01:08:29 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by ralph:
from outside the US
seeing a change is very important right now
you had 8 years of bush which gave you a black eye
McCain would have the same turkeys running the show & Palin is a joke
Obama would be a change & Biden makes a ok #2
given how fraked up the US is right now
if McCain died in office would you want a Presidnet Palin ?
if Obama died in Office would you want a President Biden .?? |
I would take President Palin right now, but I don't mind waiting out 8 years of President McCain first.
And our 8 years of doing the right thing in spite of liberal world opinion does not give us a black eye. |
Interfering in other country's governments is the right thing? Attacking other countries based on bogus information is the right thing?
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09/25/2008 01:10:30 PM · #18 |
You know what I want to see. ( this isn't an arsekissing post either ) I want to see the US of A become what it was before Bush and 911. People respected the US because of its fight against dictators, unlawful governments, and its protection of anyone seeking freedom or a better life. I want to see the America I knew before The War On Terrorism was begun by the king of all rednecks. I want to see the US be what it has preached to everyone on this planet that freedom is the ONE most important aspect of living on this rock and nothing can take that away. I don't see these messages being used anymore by American politicians and that's what makes me sad about the way the US is being run today. It's all about where the oil is or about who can and who can't use their resources to further their country's needs like nuclear power for electricity. It's all about who is right and who is wrong instead of working together to further your own people's needs.
To many people across this Earth the US has become what it used to preach against. A pseudo dictatorship with a veil of democracy that has a 4 year time limit only to begin yet another 4 years of the same, and supposedly making everyone feel like they're doing something about it by voting. What a crock ... |
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09/25/2008 01:17:36 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by ralph:
from outside the US
seeing a change is very important right now
you had 8 years of bush which gave you a black eye
McCain would have the same turkeys running the show & Palin is a joke
Obama would be a change & Biden makes a ok #2
given how fraked up the US is right now
if McCain died in office would you want a Presidnet Palin ?
if Obama died in Office would you want a President Biden .?? |
I would take President Palin right now, but I don't mind waiting out 8 years of President McCain first.
And our 8 years of doing the right thing in spite of liberal world opinion does not give us a black eye. |
Interfering in other country's governments is the right thing? Attacking other countries based on bogus information is the right thing? |
When the information is believed correct and confirmed at the time -- then yes, liberating Iraq was the correct move.
But even without the WMD (evidences of which WERE found), we were correct based on the 1991 UN Resolutions that Saddam was in violation of.
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09/25/2008 01:18:25 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Jac:
People respected the US because of its fight against dictators, unlawful governments, and its protection of anyone seeking freedom or a better life. |
And that's exactly what we did, jac. Stand up to a dicatator. We liberated Iraqi's who were seeking freedom. |
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09/25/2008 01:25:26 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Bujanx:
My thought? America is screwed either way.
Someone needs to tell Obama that flowery speeches about hope and change aren't policy.
McCain has flipped flopped so much he looks like a fresh caught cod.
There was some good candidates in both parties, but America chose some of the worst. |
Yeah. I love the way Obama promised to accept matching funds, then backed out. Integrity. |
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09/25/2008 01:25:27 PM · #22 |
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09/25/2008 01:29:28 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by ralph:
from outside the US
seeing a change is very important right now
you had 8 years of bush which gave you a black eye
McCain would have the same turkeys running the show & Palin is a joke
Obama would be a change & Biden makes a ok #2
given how fraked up the US is right now
if McCain died in office would you want a Presidnet Palin ?
if Obama died in Office would you want a President Biden .?? |
I would take President Palin right now, but I don't mind waiting out 8 years of President McCain first.
And our 8 years of doing the right thing in spite of liberal world opinion does not give us a black eye. |
Interfering in other country's governments is the right thing? Attacking other countries based on bogus information is the right thing? |
When the information is believed correct and confirmed at the time -- then yes, liberating Iraq was the correct move.
But even without the WMD (evidences of which WERE found), we were correct based on the 1991 UN Resolutions that Saddam was in violation of. |
Support Saddam when it's convenient then turn around and destroy his country when it's no longer convenient. Iraq is an independent country (at least it was). Whether the US administration agrees with how it was being run in irrelevant.
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09/25/2008 01:29:34 PM · #24 |
are you guys serious
you sound like a bunch of fascist to me |
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09/25/2008 01:32:08 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Jac:
People respected the US because of its fight against dictators, unlawful governments, and its protection of anyone seeking freedom or a better life. |
And that's exactly what we did, jac. Stand up to a dicatator. We liberated Iraqi's who were seeking freedom. |
No, the US invaded a sovereign nation based on known (to the people telling them) lies, destroyed a government, then bungled the "post-conflict" reconstruction so badly that a civil war was allowed to start and flourish.
The quagmire in Iraq was illegal, ill-conceived and poorly executed. |
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