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09/16/2008 03:56:34 PM · #1

Can someone tell me how one of these two is READY to be president and the other is not?

We've had some Senators become president and some governors become president.

How can anyone say that Sarah Palin is not qualified and in the same breath say the Obama is ready?

If you feel Palin is ready why is Obama not ready?

KS

amathiasphoto

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09/16/2008 03:57:42 PM · #2

quick, wheres the popcorn?

kenskid

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09/16/2008 04:00:33 PM · #3

I finally broke down and had to post this when I read that Chevy Chase said "I can't beleive this woman is running for vice-president".

If Obama is qualified surely Palin is.

If you feel Palin is not and Obama is then state the facts that lead you to believe that.
If you feel Palin is better then state your reasons.

Originally posted by amathiasphoto:

quick, wheres the popcorn?

Man_Called_Horse

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09/16/2008 04:06:40 PM · #4

Originally posted by kenskid:

shouldn't this be in the RANT forums?

You know, politics and religion, that sort of thing.

klkitchens

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09/16/2008 04:07:02 PM · #5

Originally posted by kenskid:

First off, we've had very few senators become president. Most have been governors.

Ideally, the president is the "governor" of the collection of states. So being a governor brings real-world executive experience. Being senator is a cloistered, pick and choose issues kind of job. With a governor, they have to deal with a variety of issues that hit them from left and right -- same as the president.

Palin is the most qualified of the four (Pres/VP) candidates in terms of this experience. McCain has leadership experience in the military and also has chaired committees and actually pushed through legislation (some good, some bad, but still passed). I'm sure Biden has as well.

Obama is the LEAST qualified person in this race. He's done nothing. Nothing. Nothing. He gives a good speech, but they are hollow. Some have likened his speeches to Chinese food, where it's pleasing at the moment, but an hour later you have nothing.

I truly cannot believe he won of Hillary. She would be bad, but she'd at least attempted some bills and had some ideas -- wrong as they are. Obama is an empty suit.

This really shouldn't be close except folks are enamored by him and want to see the first black (he's only 1/2 black) president. I'm all for a black, woman, black-woman for president, but only when there is one who is qualified.

Obama is NOT qualified. I would not put him in charge of a Lemonade stand -- he has not experience running anything.

sabphoto

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09/16/2008 04:11:04 PM · #6

well since she isn't running for president there is a bit of difference there...may not seem like a big difference but it is.

Personally, I wonder if it isn't about time we have someone that doesn't have a TON of political background, sure knowledge is power but sometimes a lack of knowledge lets you see things in a different light.

Spork99

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09/16/2008 04:13:24 PM · #7

They're all equally qualified:

Originally posted by Section One: Article II, of the U.S. Constitution:

The president must be a natural-born citizen of the United States.

Must be at least 35 years of age.

Must have been a resident of the United States for 14 years.

The President is limited to serving two terms.

Which of the candidates fails to meet one or more of those criteria?

glad2badad

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09/16/2008 04:15:14 PM · #8

Governor for 2 years

Granted, it's a while back. :-) Other than governor he had little political experience.

Some excerpts from the source:

"He was the first American to be awarded the Nobel Prize..."

"He dominated his era as he dominated conversations....the masses loved him; he proved to be a great popular idol and a great vote getter."[7] His image stands alongside Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln on Mount Rushmore. Surveys of scholars have consistently ranked him from third to seventh on the list of greatest American presidents."

jjusa

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09/16/2008 04:15:24 PM · #9

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

They're all equally qualified:

Originally posted by Section One: Article II, of the U.S. Constitution:

The president must be a natural-born citizen of the United States.

Must be at least 35 years of age.

Must have been a resident of the United States for 14 years.

The President is limited to serving two terms.

Which of the candidates fails to meet one or more of those criteria?

cpanaioti

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09/16/2008 04:19:57 PM · #10

Shouldn't this discussion be kept in one thread?

SDW

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09/16/2008 04:20:20 PM · #11

This interview kind of sheds some light on how some feel about Palin qualifications; I agree!

citymars

09/16/2008 04:22:19 PM · #12

A multitude of factors affect who we elect, not just their current elected offices.
Historically, presidents have had a wide range of pre-presidential experiences. John F. Kennedy had been in the Senate for eight years, and was just 43, when he was elected in 1960; and Abraham Lincoln in 1860 had not been in elected office since serving a single term in the House of Representatives ten years earlier.

Senators often have a hard time listing personal successes, since all legislation is a collaboration and their exact position preferences are rarely, if ever, turned into law in unadulterated form.

PHOTOKID

09/16/2008 04:23:03 PM · #13

Originally posted by kenskid:

Here is my major difference, Obama IS running for president. Palin ISNT running for president, she IS running for Vice President.

posthumous

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09/16/2008 04:23:55 PM · #14

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

This really shouldn't be close except folks are enamored by him and want to see the first black (he's only 1/2 black) president. I'm all for a black, woman, black-woman for president, but only when there is one who is qualified.

There's no such thing as "1/2 black" in the U.S. If it shows, then this country considers you black. It's a racism thing.

kenskid

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09/16/2008 04:26:40 PM · #15

But...many are saying she is NOT READY to be President if needed...so question is valid.

Originally posted by Hot_Pixel:

Originally posted by kenskid:
Can someone tell me how one of these two is READY to be president and the other is not?

We've had some Senators become president and some governors become president.

How can anyone say that Sarah Palin is not qualified and in the same breath say the Obama is ready?

If you feel Palin is ready why is Obama not ready?

KS

Here is my major difference, Obama IS running for president. Palin ISNT running for president, she IS running for Vice President.

DrAchoo

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09/16/2008 04:33:28 PM · #16

I'm guessing some people (including myself) will fault Palin on her foreign affairs experience. Obama, McCain, and Biden, having all been in Washington, are likely well aware of foreign affairs and have met foreign heads of state (at least in addresses if not privately). Palin, on the other hand, was the governor of a backwater state (third smallest by population), never even had a passport until a few years ago, and likely had no need to understand our diplomatic positions with foreign countries in the day-to-day running of our country. With any of the three senators, this would not be true.

swankFoto

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09/16/2008 04:38:08 PM · #17

Message edited by author 2008-09-16 16:39:09.

swankFoto

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09/16/2008 04:38:55 PM · #18

Who cares if she's qualified or not.
Her views and stances are why she shouldn't be VP.
My wife is also offended by the way it is being portrayed that just because this woman has a uterus means that American women are all rallying around her and should be thrilled with the nominee.
You saw what good her abstinence only stance did for her daughter.
Imagine what the rest of her views might do for our country once McCain edges into Senilityburg (a` la Reagan).
The thing I am dreading most if this ticket is elected is having to hear her grating voice.

bradshaw

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09/16/2008 04:51:13 PM · #19

I think we should vote Jack Layton in that would be a real twist...

cpanaioti

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09/16/2008 04:52:16 PM · #20

Originally posted by bradshaw:

I think we should vote Jack Layton in that would be a real twist...

I'm willing to donate him to the states.

trevytrev

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09/16/2008 04:52:24 PM · #21

Originally posted by rswank:

You saw what good her abstinence only stance did for her daughter.

In all fairness, you can teach a teenager abstinence along with safe sex practices and they still can make a mistake and get pregnant. I don't disagree that it's asinine not to teach safe sex but I wouldn't really champion this as a reason not to put this women in the white house, there is plenty of other goodies for that matter.

To Doc, she can see Russia from Alaska, that counts for something right...?:)

trevytrev

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09/16/2008 04:53:34 PM · #22

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by bradshaw:
I think we should vote Jack Layton in that would be a real twist...

I'm willing to donate him to the states.

We have enough politicians screwing things up down here, you guys keep him!

bradshaw

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09/16/2008 04:54:29 PM · #23

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by bradshaw:
I think we should vote Jack Layton in that would be a real twist...

I'm willing to donate him to the states.

While were at it lets give them Harper and Dion, and bring Trudeau back from the dead.

Message edited by author 2008-09-16 16:54:42.

cpanaioti