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08/29/2008 01:48:53 PM · #176 |
Originally posted by eqsite:
Originally posted by dponlyme:
All right, All right... things just got way, way scarier. What do I do now? The thought of Gidget being a heart beat (and at 72 McCain is running out of them) away from the most powerful position in the world may be more scary than Obama in the presidency. At least I know he is a great politician if not a great public servant. I know absolutely nothing about her and not much time to form a true opinion. This was a horrible move for McCain. Meg Whitman would have been better. Throw me back into the pool of undecideds. Maybe we should change it to where there is an independent election for vice president I'd much rather have Biden in that position and McCain in the presidency. Is it too late to change the rules? |
Darren, if you truly are undecided now, what remains your biggest concern about the Obama/Biden ticket? |
As I've stated before, I don't trust Obama to lead our country in this age of terrorism. I feel he will be soft on national security. I also don't like his pro-choice stance but that is way secondary. |
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08/29/2008 01:53:46 PM · #177 |
| I can't get through to Palin's website i suspect because it is receiving about a billion hits at this time as everyone tries to find out more about her. |
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08/29/2008 01:53:54 PM · #178 |
Originally posted by dponlyme:
Originally posted by eqsite:
Darren, if you truly are undecided now, what remains your biggest concern about the Obama/Biden ticket? |
As I've stated before, I don't trust Obama to lead our country in this age of terrorism. I feel he will be soft on national security. I also don't like his pro-choice stance but that is way secondary. |
I'm not going to argue with you -- you need to make up your own mind on your own terms, but I will say that I think a strong leader surrounds themselves with strong team members. Given the most important choice that each candidate has made so far, does that sway your feelings about Obama's leadership qualities?
Message edited by author 2008-08-29 13:54:17. |
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08/29/2008 01:54:24 PM · #179 |
Originally posted by trevytrev:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Well, looks like McCain has locked up the "Guys hot for MILF's" vote. |
Have you seen the demand for MILF's on the internet, that's apparently a huge demographic. |
Exactly. |
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08/29/2008 01:59:32 PM · #180 |
Originally posted by dponlyme:
As I've stated before, I don't trust Obama to lead our country in this age of terrorism. I feel he will be soft on national security. I also don't like his pro-choice stance but that is way secondary. |
I know someone said it's a cop out earlier but I gotta say that I don't trust either of these candidates to lead our country in this age of....well, anything.
We sure are a stupid bunch.
Message edited by author 2008-08-29 13:59:56. |
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08/29/2008 02:04:18 PM · #181 |
Originally posted by LoudDog:
I do find it interesting that Obama picked an old, white, crusty, career senator, much like McCain and McCain picked a young, attractive new comer, much like Obama. |
We don't actually know Palin's qualifications (fewer people likely do than when Obama started his run), and passing judgement solely upon appearance and youth is exactly the same mindless speculation often directed at Obama. With this choice McCain automatically gets more votes from women, youth... and likely Bill Clinton. However, it comes at the expense of his "experience" platform, and abandoning the familiar in favor of an attractive young woman AGAIN is rich fodder for critics. Expect to hear something about the potential makeup of McCain's cabinet from the late night comics within, say, 12 hours. :-/ |
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08/29/2008 02:06:32 PM · #182 |
Originally posted by LoudDog:
If McCain picked an old white guy he'd be mocked for sticking with the norm
If he picked a black person he'd be mocked for just countering Obama
If he picked a unattractive woman he'd be mocked for trying to get clinton voters
He was damned who ever he picked...
I do find it interesting that Obama picked an old, white, crusty, career senator, much like McCain and McCain picked a young, attractive new comer, much like Obama. |
Just stop it ...
Anybody can look at this and see it for what it is ... I am not a supporter of McCain V Obama (McCain VS Clinton would have been a different story) BUT Romney would have been a powerfull choice but would not have pandered to the PUMAs
If McCain had picked JC Watts or Micheal Steele (I disagree with this guy but he went to my Highschool and I know where he got his values from) He would have played to strenth... If he had picked Kay-Bailey it would have been the selection of a (another) strong Senator... there is no justification for this pick except pandering |
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08/29/2008 02:16:25 PM · #183 |
| Obama talked about good judgment last night. Republicans want you to forget about last night ... but this pretty much confirms what Obama said. |
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08/29/2008 02:18:39 PM · #184 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
We don't actually know Palin's qualifications (fewer people likely do than when Obama started his run), and passing judgement solely upon appearance and youth is exactly the same mindless speculation often directed at Obama. With this choice McCain automatically gets more votes from women, youth... and likely Bill Clinton. However, it comes at the expense of his "experience" platform, and abandoning the familiar in favor of an attractive young woman AGAIN is rich fodder for critics. Expect to hear something about the potential makeup of McCain's cabinet from the late night comics within, say, 12 hours. :-/ |
5 minutes of google searching on her and I'm convinced she is at least as experienced as Obama, but both are very low on that scale. I'm sure we'll learn a lot more about her in the next few hours as people go talk to her kindergarten teacher and what not.
And for the record, I was not passing judgement solely upon appearance and I'm not going to assume that's why McCain picked her. I simply pointed out that each candidate picked a VP with a lot in common with their opponent. Interesting strategy. |
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08/29/2008 02:24:27 PM · #185 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by trevytrev:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Well, looks like McCain has locked up the "Guys hot for MILF's" vote. |
Have you seen the demand for MILF's on the internet, that's apparently a huge demographic. |
Exactly. |
Vogues Governor issue
Message edited by author 2008-08-29 14:25:16. |
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08/29/2008 02:25:39 PM · #186 |
Originally posted by nomad469:
Just stop it ...
Anybody can look at this and see it for what it is ... |
I'm sure being female and being attractive were in the plus column while picking her over the other options, but I hope they were small pluses. Being a certain race/sex or attractive/unattractive should not in any way be a reason for someone to be President or VP.
Sorry if my attempt at humor was taken wrong. I just wanted to point out that people would complain no matter who he picked and both picked a pretty good clone of the other (based on a few superficial qualities). |
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08/29/2008 02:34:55 PM · #187 |
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Originally posted by nomad469:
Just stop it ...
Anybody can look at this and see it for what it is ... |
I'm sure being female and being attractive were in the plus column while picking her over the other options, but I hope they were small pluses. Being a certain race/sex or attractive/unattractive should not in any way be a reason for someone to be President or VP.
Sorry if my attempt at humor was taken wrong. I just wanted to point out that people would complain no matter who he picked and both picked a pretty good clone of the other (based on a few superficial qualities). |
I Hope that appearance was not the driver for this selection ... but it looks so much like it ..
We will see what happens
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08/29/2008 02:47:20 PM · #188 |
Is this real? It seems so faked-up with the glasses and all -
I figured it was 'Art' ...
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08/29/2008 02:48:27 PM · #189 |
Originally posted by metatate:
Is this real? It seems so faked-up with the glasses and all -
I figured it was 'Art' ...
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//kodiakkonfidential.blogspot.com/2007/12/sarah-in-vogue.html
and
//dwb.adn.com/news/alaska/ap_alaska/story/9517349p-9427963c.html
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08/29/2008 02:58:58 PM · #190 |
In my opinion, his choice for VP was a very smart move. It effectively squashes all the "more of the same" rhetoric that the Obama camp has been shouting. She's not a Washington insider, she's not big government. What she lacks in experience, I think she makes up for in tenacity and what seems to be the ability to think on her feet. I honestly don't see why women voters should be insulted! What is insulting, though, are comments that she was chosen based solely on her looks. Intelligent women can't be beautiful???
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08/29/2008 03:01:07 PM · #191 |
Originally posted by dponlyme:
As I've stated before, I don't trust Obama to lead our country in this age of terrorism. I feel he will be soft on national security. I also don't like his pro-choice stance but that is way secondary. |
I'm just going to ask again seeing as your brouth it up... what age of terrorism... there hasn't been more OR LESS since Bush... but please correct me if I'm wrong... and really what is McCain going to do that's going too change that in your opinion that Obama wouldn't/Couldn't? |
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08/29/2008 03:03:18 PM · #192 |
Originally posted by metatate:
Is this real? It seems so faked-up with the glasses and all -
I figured it was 'Art' ...
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But I found it on the Internet, a Google search even. It HAS to be real. ;-) |
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08/29/2008 03:05:25 PM · #193 |
Spot the difference;
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08/29/2008 03:07:59 PM · #194 |
Originally posted by JH:
Spot the difference;
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i don't see what one has to do with the other one.
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08/29/2008 03:08:13 PM · #195 |
Originally posted by sher:
In my opinion, his choice for VP was a very smart move. It effectively squashes all the "more of the same" rhetoric that the Obama camp has been shouting. She's not a Washington insider, she's not big government. What she lacks in experience, I think she makes up for in tenacity and what seems to be the ability to think on her feet. I honestly don't see why women voters should be insulted! What is insulting, though, are comments that she was chosen based solely on her looks. Intelligent women can't be beautiful??? |
My wife is intelligent and beautiful. She's also Pro-choice, wants salary equality, and universal health care.
So if there are Hillary people that can ignore all the core Hillary issues then they just might vote for McCain/Palin. But that would be just a stupid as voting for her because she's pretty.
You're right about her not being a Washington insider, she's barely an Alaskan insider.
Message edited by author 2008-08-29 15:10:48. |
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08/29/2008 03:08:53 PM · #196 |
Originally posted by JH:
Spot the difference;
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the beret, right? ;-) |
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08/29/2008 03:11:33 PM · #197 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
Originally posted by JH:
Spot the difference;
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the beret, right? ;-) |
the difference is one hand vs two... :) |
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08/29/2008 03:14:32 PM · #198 |
Originally posted by Eyesup:
Originally posted by dponlyme:
As I've stated before, I don't trust Obama to lead our country in this age of terrorism. I feel he will be soft on national security. I also don't like his pro-choice stance but that is way secondary. |
I'm just going to ask again seeing as your brouth it up... what age of terrorism... there hasn't been more OR LESS since Bush... but please correct me if I'm wrong... and really what is McCain going to do that's going too change that in your opinion that Obama wouldn't/Couldn't? |
Invade Iran. |
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08/29/2008 03:20:10 PM · #199 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Eyesup:
Originally posted by dponlyme:
As I've stated before, I don't trust Obama to lead our country in this age of terrorism. I feel he will be soft on national security. I also don't like his pro-choice stance but that is way secondary. |
I'm just going to ask again seeing as your brouth it up... what age of terrorism... there hasn't been more OR LESS since Bush... but please correct me if I'm wrong... and really what is McCain going to do that's going too change that in your opinion that Obama wouldn't/Couldn't? |
Invade Iran. |
and that woudld do what to stop terrorists? or maybe that's the plan o make more terrorists that then justifies more radical actions, which then breeds more terrorist...etc |
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08/29/2008 03:28:01 PM · #200 |
I don't think McCain picked her because she's attractive, although that never hurts with some folks. But in the last hour or so I tuned in to the Rush Limbaugh show (a right-wing extremist fanatic with a popular radio show, for anyone outside the U.S. who is not familiar with him) who was mighty enthusiastic about Palin; and then also heard an interview with Ann Coulter, also very enthusiastic and full of praise for McCain's pick.
Call me superficial, but that's really all I need to know about Sarah Palin. |
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