FYI: New Canon EOS(s) August 26, 2008 - 50D Announced

08/27/2008 07:23:43 AM · #51

Oh I want one! I was thinking about a 5D MkII, but, realistically, it will be too expensive for me. This seems like an awesome upgrade for me. I especially like the improved sensor cleaning system and the high ISO because 1) I seem to get a lot of dust on my sensor when changing lenses; and 2) I don't like to use a flash.

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PhotoDave

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

08/27/2008 09:15:27 AM · #52

Originally posted by OmanOtter:

I have an XTi and a 40D, BOTH with the so called sensor cleaning and IMHO it may get rid of a spec or two but with changing lenses it still gets pretty grungy every now and then. IMO the sensor cleaning is more of a gimmick than anything...

-dave

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

08/27/2008 10:51:36 AM · #53

Originally posted by OmanOtter:

If you decide to sell the 40D, lemme know!

Actually, that goes for anyone wanting to sell the 40D.

digitalpins

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

08/27/2008 10:53:26 AM · #54

Originally posted by OdysseyF22:

Originally posted by dwterry:
ISO 1600 looks pretty darn clean here.

Looks pretty darn good to me as well. Certainly better than my 30D or 400D at the same ISO.

same here glad I did not decide to get a new camera yet....

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/27/2008 11:59:09 AM · #55

Originally posted by smurfguy:

Originally posted by scalvert:
The 40D is already 24-bit and 42-bit (8 bits and 14 bits per RGB channel).

Oh, that's the 3x marketing value, I guess. I've never seen it reported that way.

That's the normal way of describing total RGB data (24 bit monitors, 48 bit scanners, etc). Even the original Rebel 300D was described as a 12-bit RGB sensor that captured in 24-bit JPEG and 36-bit RAW data file formats.

08/27/2008 12:32:54 PM · #56

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by smurfguy:

Originally posted by scalvert:
The 40D is already 24-bit and 42-bit (8 bits and 14 bits per RGB channel).

Oh, that's the 3x marketing value, I guess. I've never seen it reported that way.

That's the normal way of describing total RGB data (24 bit monitors, 48 bit scanners, etc). Even the original Rebel 300D was described as a 12-bit RGB sensor that captured in 24-bit JPEG and 36-bit RAW data file formats.

Fair enough. I have seen scanners reported that way. In yester-year, monitor marketers went for the even bigger number, and expanded it to "16 million colors!" Probably because the average Joe didn't understand bits back then.

But on Canon's spec and feature pages and the DPReview spec sheet, the only "bits" presented are "14-bit conversion". In Photoshop, you choose an 8-bit or 16-bit format (ignoring the per channel qualification, if there is one.)

You're right - I misinterpreted the spec, but I still stand by my assertion that reporting "color depth" (24-bit and 46-bit) is a stupid thing for B&H to do on a camera spec sheet.

Back to the 50D discussion, the $1399 MSRP is now listed on the Official Canon(USA) EOS page.

pamelasue

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

08/27/2008 12:35:19 PM · #57

Originally posted by karmat:

If you decide to sell the 40D, lemme know!

Actually, that goes for anyone wanting to sell the 40D.

Ditto! I'm getting ready to upgrade and will consider a used 40D ...

Jedusi

08/27/2008 01:41:58 PM · #58

My plan is to wait for the 5D2 to be released in September - then decide it is too expensive - then look at the 50D again - then wonder waht the 60D will be like . . and probably do nothing in the same way that I have watched the 30D and 40D go past : -)

It's not that I particularly love (or even like that much) my 20D, it's more that I haven't really seen something I can't live without so far . . I did like the quieter shutter, faster focus and bigger screen of the 40D, but I didn't much like the feel of it in my hand, and the 50D is the same body.

I really like the feel of the 5D in my hand . . but it will almost certainly cost too much, and I don't want to buy a current one which is as old as my 20D.

Who knows what the next few weeks will bring - but I won't be buying a 50D in the UK if it really costs twice as much as the USA - that's for sure !!

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/27/2008 02:02:25 PM · #59

Originally posted by Jedusi:

My plan is to wait for the 5D2 to be released in September - then decide it is too expensive - then look at the 50D again - then wonder waht the 60D will be like . . and probably do nothing

Lol, me too!

theSaj

Canon EOS-20D

08/27/2008 02:35:38 PM · #60

"40D was a gimic .. i wasnt impressed "

Depends on who you are. The 40D was the camera for me. The 30D was a joke. I mean, we got spot metering and a larger viewscreen. And um...yeah...not much more. The 30D was really the 20Dn. As they had released updates to the 1D line as N updates which mainly featured new larger viewscreens.

The 40D was an upgrade, with several features, more megapixels, dust cleaning system, highlight tone priority, and more.

The 50D is a substantial upgrade. 12,800 ISO setting is mind blowing.

As for sensor cleaning, my 20D collected dust like it was in the Sahara desert. My 40D has remained pretty clean.

dmadden

Canon EOS-40D

Sigma 24-35mm f/2 DG HSM A

08/27/2008 03:35:41 PM · #61

I wonder how many images will be usable at iso 12800.

Prof_Fate

08/27/2008 03:49:37 PM · #62

You've seen the 5D2 have you? They've been going to release it for about 2 years now. Until it's announced like the 50D it is a rumour and only that.
Perhaps they will announce it the first day of photokina, but why wait? It's normal procedure (based on past releases) to pretty much release it all at the same time or over 2 days.

Prof_Fate

08/27/2008 03:53:00 PM · #63

Originally posted by dknourek:

Originally posted by OmanOtter:
Oh I want one! I was thinking about a 5D MkII, but, realistically, it will be too expensive for me. This seems like an awesome upgrade for me. I especially like the improved sensor cleaning system and the high ISO because 1) I seem to get a lot of dust on my sensor when changing lenses; and 2) I don't like to use a flash.

I have an XTi and a 40D, BOTH with the so called sensor cleaning and IMHO it may get rid of a spec or two but with changing lenses it still gets pretty grungy every now and then. IMO the sensor cleaning is more of a gimmick than anything...

-dave

I find it works well. I change lenses constantly and everywhere - indoors, outdoors and last week outdoors at a county fair and it was DUSTY. I mean there was a COATING of dust on the camera and lenses when I was shooting - no dust inside at all. I cleaned everything upon return to the studio and did a dust check before and after out of curiosity - no dust on the sensor. None. And I never turn the camera off to change lenses and often use a belt system and don't keep the back caps on the lenses so there is dust getting into the camera (just look thru my viewfinder and you can see it!). But it's not on the sensor.

Patrick_R

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

08/28/2008 12:00:37 PM · #64

I'm actually excited about the new screen lol.... the 40d had a 3 inch screen with 230,000 pixels. the 50d has 930,000. I love the d300 screen and this is nifty to me.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

08/28/2008 12:09:12 PM · #65

What the heck is this?

To assist with lightning conditions the new camera does peripheral illumination correction, which automatically evens brightness across the image field. This is a task that was normally done in applications like Photoshop after the images were uploaded to the computer.

LOL... That's from a MacWorld article. But, typo aside, anyone know what this really means?

R.

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

08/28/2008 12:14:38 PM · #66

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Automatic vignette correction (even on a per-lens basis). Personally I like vignetting.

Strikeslip

Canon EOS-5D

08/28/2008 12:17:47 PM · #67

Originally posted by smurfguy:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
What the heck is this?

To assist with lightning conditions the new camera does peripheral illumination correction, which automatically evens brightness across the image field. This is a task that was normally done in applications like Photoshop after the images were uploaded to the computer.

LOL... That's from a MacWorld article. But, typo aside, anyone know what this really means?

R.

Automatic vignette correction (even on a per-lens basis). Personally I like vignetting.

I assume that's an option you could turn off??? :-/

Sigma 24-35mm f/2 DG HSM A

08/28/2008 12:19:53 PM · #68

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I assume that's an option you could turn off??? :-/

Yes. (See DPReview's 50D menus review - it's an option in the red menu).

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dmadden

Canon EOS-40D

08/31/2008 02:54:12 PM · #69

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Do u think it could be an internal HDR function like the d80??

dmadden

Canon EOS-40D

Sigma 24-35mm f/2 DG HSM A

09/01/2008 12:27:23 AM · #70

So is there an in camera HDR feature on the 50d??

strangeghost

Canon EOS-7D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/01/2008 09:57:43 PM · #71

Has anyone seen any examples of ISO 12,000,000 (or whatever)?? Dpreview said not only can you photograph people in the dark, you can see what they're thinking too.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/01/2008 11:56:30 PM · #72

Originally posted by strangeghost:

Has anyone seen any examples of ISO 12,000,000 (or whatever)?? Dpreview said not only can you photograph people in the dark, you can see what they're thinking too.

The folks* at DPReview just posted at 50D sample gallery and a D90 sample gallery. The annoying part is, there's one shot at ISO 6400 which is really a horribly lit/exposed picture, and two at 1600 which are too bright to judge noise. But they sure covered the "incredibly mundane snapshots of outdoor flowers at ISO 200" category.

* Bone heads.

Message edited by author 2008-09-02 00:00:20.

ShutterPug

Canon EOS-6D

09/02/2008 12:22:36 AM · #73

Well I'm impressed - it sure has a lot of features my 30D lacks. I have been wanting to upgrade, and I'm finally seeing a camera worth upgrading to that is still within a reasonable price range. I can hardly wait for this to hit the market. I'll be selling my 30D when that day comes....any offers?

strangeghost

Canon EOS-7D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/02/2008 07:42:35 AM · #74

Originally posted by smurfguy:

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The folks* at DPReview just posted at 50D sample gallery and a D90 sample gallery. The annoying part is, there's one shot at ISO 6400 which is really a horribly lit/exposed picture, and two at 1600 which are too bright to judge noise. But they sure covered the "incredibly mundane snapshots of outdoor flowers at ISO 200" category.
* Bone heads.

Yeah, I had just seen that gallery when I posted my message. Not the kind of examples I was hoping for to show off the new high ISO capabilities.

PhotoDave