D700 takes DPC by storm - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/22/2008 11:46:08 AM · #1

In this first week of competition, the D700 (powered in large part by

IreneM) has posted some incredible numbers. The average vote for this camera (as of right now) is 7.010, albeit with only 3 images contributing to this score. I'd be willing to bet few if any other cameras have debuted above 7.

It'll be interesting to see where this camera settles once it has a respectable number of entries.

citymars

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

08/22/2008 11:51:56 AM · #2

Nikon D700:

The camera.
Submissions so far.
Owners on DPC.

Yomi

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 VR

08/22/2008 11:58:50 AM · #3

PhotoDave

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

08/22/2008 12:07:20 PM · #4

WOW that camera takes some awesome pictures!! O_O

Patrick_R

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

08/22/2008 12:10:59 PM · #5

well when Irene takes two of the three submissions.... haha

timwest167

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

08/22/2008 12:15:46 PM · #6

If I could afford it the average would soon get dragged down!!!

raish

Olympus C-2500L

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

08/22/2008 12:22:24 PM · #7

Yeah, give me 25,000 Norwegian kroner and I'll show Nikon D700 what a brown ribbon looks like.

citymars

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

08/22/2008 01:46:48 PM · #8

Originally posted by dknourek:

WOW that camera takes some awesome pictures!! O_O

Here's a button for

IreneM,

Yomi, et al:

t3nchi

08/22/2008 03:26:44 PM · #9

It's because the ppl behind the eyepiece are awesome photographers.

K3Master

Pentax K-3

Pentax D-FA* 70-200mm f/2.8 ED DC AW

08/22/2008 03:29:01 PM · #10

Is someone really trying to suggest that a camera alone is the reason for high scores?

I'm with some of the other posters in this thread. Give *me* a D700, and you'll soon see that average become a little more realistic.

Put it in the hands of 300 people even.

Louis

Nikon D800

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D

08/22/2008 03:31:11 PM · #11

Should I upgrade? Is the noise reduction at 800+ worth it? Is the full frame worth it? Why is the viewfinder coverage below 100%, when it's 100% for the D300 and D3, and does it make a difference in the long run (I love the 100% coverage of the D300, framing is a joy)? Are any other D300 people considering an upgrade?

smurfguy

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/22/2008 03:49:06 PM · #12

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

Is someone really trying to suggest that a camera alone is the reason for high scores?

I'm pretty sure everyone here who has hinted at that has done so facetiously. =)

togtog

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

08/22/2008 03:50:21 PM · #13

Originally posted by Louis:

Depends on the photos you take, full-frame sensors cost you 50% telephoto and gain you 50% wide angle.

Full-frame for the same megapixels will have better ISO response and less noise making low-light shooting easier.

According to

MattO the reason is the pop-up flash in the D700. The prism that is at the top of the camera needs to be made smaller to fit below the pop-up flash, so it can only show a percentage of the full scene. For the D300 since it is a cropped sensor it cannot be noticed.

The difference is one you can probably learn to live with, any shots you take will have a little extra image around the edges.

I don't believe I will upgrade from my D300 as I love the effect of cropped sensors on telephoto lenses. However if I had the means I would consider a D700 as well for landscape and studio work.

Message edited by author 2008-08-22 15:50:58.

PhotoDave

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

08/22/2008 04:09:58 PM · #14

Originally posted by dknourek:

WOW that camera takes some awesome pictures!! O_O

lol guess I should have put a *Im being sarcastic* disclaimer on the end of that one ;)

Spork99

Canon EOS M6 Mk II

Canon EF-M 22mm STM Lens

08/22/2008 04:14:53 PM · #15

Originally posted by togtog:

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According to MattO the reason is the pop-up flash in the D700. The prism that is at the top of the camera needs to be made smaller to fit below the pop-up flash, so it can only show a percentage of the full scene. For the D300 since it is a cropped sensor it cannot be noticed.

That's part of it, but there are examples of full frame cameras that do NOT provide 100% finder coverage. The Canon 5D springs immediately to mind. Another, perhaps bigger, issue is one of precision and accuracy during assembly. Yes, I'm aware that cameras are, by their nature, quite precise, but, to get 100% of the image in viewfinder requires taking precision and accuracy to another level.

togtog

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

08/22/2008 04:19:22 PM · #16

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by togtog:
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According to MattO the reason is the pop-up flash in the D700. The prism that is at the top of the camera needs to be made smaller to fit below the pop-up flash, so it can only show a percentage of the full scene. For the D300 since it is a cropped sensor it cannot be noticed.

That's part of it, but there are examples of full frame cameras that do NOT provide 100% finder coverage. The Canon 5D springs immediately to mind. Another, perhaps bigger, issue is one of precision and accuracy during assembly. Yes, I'm aware that cameras are, by their nature, quite precise, but, to get 100% of the image in viewfinder requires taking precision and accuracy to another level.

True point that and I admit that slipped my mind. It is easy to get an electronic viewfinder at 100% but not so much an optical one.

Oh, Louis, one thing I have noticed that bothers me with 100% viewfinders, is since they are optical, not looking 100% straight down the viewfinder can cause the view to shift and actually cause an edge to get cut off when it looked in frame.

Message edited by author 2008-08-22 16:19:53.

Yomi

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 VR

08/23/2008 01:28:01 AM · #17

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by dknourek:
WOW that camera takes some awesome pictures!! O_O

Here's a button for IreneM, Yomi, et al:

LOL, that's funny. I added it to my profile, (I don't have any super special things on mine yet like all the posthumorous, OOBIE, Yapie, and all those other things all the cool kids have on there ;P)

I really do like the high ISO of the camera. Upgrading from a D100 is a HUGE difference in everything basically. At first when I got the D700 I was scared to shoot at higher ISO's. So I left it at 200. Then while in Peru I turned it to auto ISO while in the operating room and shot from 200-3200 iso in there and was blown away at how great everything ended up looking. The one picture I do have that I entered into the challenge was just one, but I do have a whole series of shots from beginning to end of a gall bladder removal that turned out really nice. During that surgery they had all the lights off and basically used a TV to watch what they were doing inside the stomach. The shots of the doctors were great showing their concentration and everything.

bassbone

Nikon Df

Nikon MF 105mm f/2.5 AIS

08/23/2008 06:36:50 AM · #18

That's great about the D700 and its debut scores, but for about $2800 less you could use this camera and have an average of 6.75...

DarkRider

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

08/23/2008 09:49:16 AM · #19

Originally posted by Louis:

I would never replace my D300 with a D700. I will eventually get a D700 or D3 to add versatility to my setup. And then I can covert my D70 to IR!!!

IreneM

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

08/23/2008 11:17:32 AM · #20

Originally posted by DarkRider:

...and then I can covert my D70 to IR!!!

I was thinking of doing that too, I just don't know if my beloved D70 would forgive me...
Thanks! to

citymars for the button. I'll add it to my profile straight away.

DarkRider

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

08/23/2008 11:23:30 AM · #21

Originally posted by IreneM:

Originally posted by DarkRider:
...and then I can covert my D70 to IR!!!

I was thinking of doing that too, I just don't know if my beloved D70 would forgive me...
Thanks! to citymars for the button. I'll add it to my profile straight away.

It will...and would probably love all the new found attention it would get. It would think it was the "special one" cause you made it custom.

breadfan35

Nikon D3

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G

08/23/2008 11:48:29 AM · #22

Nee-Kon is back on top baby!

IreneM

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

08/23/2008 12:33:26 PM · #23

Originally posted by DarkRider:

Originally posted by IreneM:

Originally posted by DarkRider:
...and then I can covert my D70 to IR!!!

I was thinking of doing that too, I just don't know if my beloved D70 would forgive me...
Thanks! to citymars for the button. I'll add it to my profile straight away.

It will...and would probably love all the new found attention it would get. It would think it was the "special one" cause you made it custom.

You're probably right. Thanks.

DarkRider