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08/21/2008 02:48:37 PM · #76

There is that saying that goes

Have you ever seen 10 billion dollars
No
Do you belive there is 10 billion dollars in the world
Yes
So you belive something that you can not see
Yes

So just cos you can see it or feel it or study it, doesnt mean it is not there

scalvert

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08/21/2008 03:00:27 PM · #77

Originally posted by JulietNN:

So just cos you can['t] see it or feel it or study it, doesnt mean it is not there

I have not seen 10 billion dollars or a fire-breathing dragon, but that certainly doesn't mean they have the same likelihood of existence.

JulietNN

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08/21/2008 03:01:13 PM · #78

Oh you haven't met my mother then Scal

Trinch

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08/21/2008 03:05:58 PM · #79

Originally posted by BeeCee:

Sorry, I'm not interested in debating the ethics of witch-burning in this thread :)

And just as I thought this thread was heading in a useful direction.

GeneralE

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08/21/2008 03:06:46 PM · #80

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by JulietNN:
So just cos you can['t] see it or feel it or study it, doesnt mean it is not there

I have not seen 10 billion dollars or a fire-breathing dragon, but that certainly doesn't mean they have the same likelihood of existence.

I have seen 10 dollars, and imagining the existence of a billion of those is not that hard ... unfortunately I've seen zero dragon scales* :-(

*Except on PBS

thegrandwazoo

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08/21/2008 03:08:37 PM · #81

Originally posted by JulietNN:

Wouldn't this be an example of deductive fallacy?

JulietNN

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08/21/2008 03:10:17 PM · #82

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by JulietNN:
So just cos you can['t] see it or feel it or study it, doesnt mean it is not there

I have not seen 10 billion dollars or a fire-breathing dragon, but that certainly doesn't mean they have the same likelihood of existence.

I have seen 10 dollars, and imagining the existence of a billion of those is not that hard ... unfortunately I've seen zero dragon scales* :-(

*Except on PBS

wouldnt it be be cool to find one and go there. I always fancied a Dragon Berry

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08/21/2008 03:44:01 PM · #83

Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

My sixth sense is actually my spirit guide.

My guide has helped me all my life.

I agree with your statement:) During 1994 I began having experiences with dreams, premontions etc. I also went through of period where I was producing poems without being aware of their content or meaning. I would be working on the computer and suddenly open the Word Processor programme and write one, two or three poems straight off, then return to what I had been doing. None were edited and many were not even read until months later. This went on for over 4 years, then they stopped.

During the dreams phase, I kept a journal of them and also notes from my spirit guide. I was in contact with a friend in Canada and on more than one occasion one of my dreams would relate to later events she would mention during phone calls.

freakin_hilarious

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08/21/2008 03:49:32 PM · #84

Look out, Waz has been reading up on his fallacies!

raish

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08/21/2008 04:00:14 PM · #85

The truth is out there.

I mean, it doesn't seem to be in here.

NikonJeb

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08/21/2008 04:24:52 PM · #86

Originally posted by Sam94720:

There are numerous people in this world who claim to have supernatural powers or skills. Each of them could easily earn a million dollars from Randi. Why do you think this hasn't happened yet?

Originally posted by crayon:

Because nobody knows Randi?

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Randi has been around for a long time and is pretty well known, especially in the paranormal and skeptic communities. If you know anyone who claims to have supernatural skills, tell them about the million dollars they can easily get.

Well, I'm 53, been around the block and never heard of him.....I'd also lay money I know a few people you never heard of....

A couple of fallacies with the Randi million dollars theory....

Not everyone blessed/cursed with a sixth sense may feel the need to parade it out like a circus act.

Also, I know in the cases where it's been clear to me that it's in place, that same thing that makes it happen also makes it completely uncontrollable and/or unpredictable.

What makes you think that what we're talking about is available on command? Or even consistent?

I know that even if I had some inkling that I could present it, I sure feel that this million would have so many caveats on it that I wouldn't subject myself to the possible public embarrassment......nor would I want every freak in the world calling me up wanting me to find their wallet or ask why their girlfriend dumped them.

thegrandwazoo

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08/21/2008 04:31:13 PM · #87

Originally posted by freakin_hilarious:

Look out, Waz has been reading up on his fallacies!

Sure have trying to keep up with this crazy place! :-)

karmat

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08/21/2008 04:34:20 PM · #88

Originally posted by Sam94720:

There are numerous people in this world who claim to have supernatural powers or skills. Each of them could easily earn a million dollars from Randi. Why do you think this hasn't happened yet?

Originally posted by crayon:

Because nobody knows Randi?

Originally posted by Sam94720:

This thread is the first time I've ever heard about him.

He likes long book titles, doesn't he?

Message edited by author 2008-08-21 16:35:00.

08/21/2008 04:37:19 PM · #89

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

There are enough people in this world who already do parade their alleged ability out like a circus act.

They also don't seem to have any problems using it at any time to make money with it. It's available on command and very consistent.

So why don't they go for the million? It's a lot of money.

One single person would suffice to prove that something paranormal exists. One person. It doesn't happen.

And maybe your ability is uncontrollable and unpredictable because it simply doesn't exist and it's all just random coincidences that you attribute to something in hindsight.

08/21/2008 04:37:50 PM · #90

Originally posted by karmat:

This thread is the first time I've ever heard about him.

He likes long book titles, doesn't he?

Both are not very good arguments against him.

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08/21/2008 04:39:56 PM · #91

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by karmat:
This thread is the first time I've ever heard about him.

He likes long book titles, doesn't he?

Both are not very good arguments against him.

Are you his agent?? Or is it just commission based on the million dollar deal??

shutterpuppy

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08/21/2008 04:42:25 PM · #92

"In science, one must keep track of the misses and not just the hits."

How Stuff Works: Skeptics and the Supernatural

People who are inclined to believe in supernatural explanations will overemphasize data that appears to support their hypotheses - the hits - while ignoring or underemphasizing the data that undermines their hypotheses - the misses. Whenever supernatural claims have been subjected to credible analysis, there has never been any indication that whatever "hits" may have been occurring are outside of the realm we should expect just from random chance.

In other words - there is no sixth sense.

08/21/2008 04:42:57 PM · #93

Originally posted by SteveJ:

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by karmat:
This thread is the first time I've ever heard about him.

He likes long book titles, doesn't he?

Both are not very good arguments against him.

Are you his agent?? Or is it just commission based on the million dollar deal??

This contributes even less to the discussion. Why don't you provide some meaningful arguments?

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08/21/2008 04:45:03 PM · #94

Originally posted by shutterpuppy:

Well, I am glad that question has been solved. Now after 30+ years of paranormal and UFO research, I can quit it all and get back reality? Or is it reality or just your imagination??

Purple_Girl

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08/21/2008 04:45:04 PM · #95

When my sister was 4 years old, my parents took her on holiday to a nice little place (can't remember the name of it) for the first time ever and almost as soon as she got there, she said 'I've been here before.' Mum said to her that she hadn't but she insisted she had been in that town before. She couldn't remember exactly how she knew the place but she was absolutely adamant. All she could say was that it was 'before.'

I've seen, heard and felt enough spooky things to believe in extra sensory perception.

karmat

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08/21/2008 04:45:31 PM · #96

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by karmat:
This thread is the first time I've ever heard about him.

He likes long book titles, doesn't he?

Both are not very good arguments against him.

Didn't realize I was arguing against him. Sorry. I was just making a couple of observations.

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08/21/2008 04:48:04 PM · #97

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by karmat:
This thread is the first time I've ever heard about him.

He likes long book titles, doesn't he?

Both are not very good arguments against him.

Didn't realize I was arguing against him. Sorry. I was just making a couple of observations.

Ok. Would you mind sharing your opinion then?

karmat

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08/21/2008 04:51:02 PM · #98

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by karmat:
This thread is the first time I've ever heard about him.

He likes long book titles, doesn't he?

Both are not very good arguments against him.

Didn't realize I was arguing against him. Sorry. I was just making a couple of observations.

Ok. Would you mind sharing your opinion then?

I would mind greatly, but thank you for asking.

08/21/2008 04:51:55 PM · #99

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by SteveJ:

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by karmat:
This thread is the first time I've ever heard about him.

He likes long book titles, doesn't he?

Both are not very good arguments against him.

Are you his agent?? Or is it just commission based on the million dollar deal??

This contributes even less to the discussion. Why don't you provide some meaningful arguments?

Pot, Kettle, Black?? All you have done throughout this thread is promote Randi and his million dollar publicity campaign. I first heard this years ago and he has made a fortune out of being a skeptic, regardless of any evidence. He is a self proclaimed expert in every field of the paranormal. If anyone asks a question or makes a statement on anything that cannot be readily proven, he is there on TV announcing it is all faked or fruadulent.

All you are doing here is using him as a foil for your so called debate on sixth sense. You haven't presented a single personal comment, merely stating that people here can get a million dollars by taking his test...devised by Randi...so no-one will ever pass it cos he sets the rules!

You can use scientific reports to back up your claims, but science doesn't know everything and can't explain the half it thinks it knows.