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08/07/2008 10:05:35 AM · #1 |
Ill just post the link and let it speak for its self as I don't know if I can keep a civil tongue about this one, I'm throughly disgusted with PETA but for some sick reason it doesn't surprise me that they would stoop this low to gain exposure...
The Link: PETA compares bus beheading to animal slaughter
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08/07/2008 10:12:02 AM · #2 |
| Doesn't surprise me. I think most peta folk, if given the choice between a human being killed or a dog, would choose the human everyday. |
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08/07/2008 10:55:46 AM · #3 |
| I'm always surprised at the kind of insensitivity necessary to place one's agenda above the feelings of others. Truly sad. In a similar story, that irretrievably insane American relgious group are planning to picket Tim McClean's funeral. |
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08/07/2008 11:14:11 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Louis:
I'm always surprised at the kind of insensitivity necessary to place one's agenda above the feelings of others. Truly sad. In a similar story, that irretrievably insane American relgious group are planning to picket Tim McClean's funeral. |
Wow didnt know about that one as well, I feel so bad for his family not only having to deal with the tragic death but with all the nuts and wackos coming out of the wood work as well... just disgusting!
-dave
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08/07/2008 11:32:58 AM · #5 |
Westboro Baptist is a truly special kind of scumbag assholes, who specifically target gays and pretty much blame anything and everything wrong in the world today on the fact that some people are gay.
I am truly amazed that they'd even be allowed to call themselves a church and hide behind that mantle.
They basically try to stay in the headlines/limelight by taking the nmost despicable stances imaginable claiming that any publicity for their cause is good publicity.
One happy aside: Not too long ago, they descended on the state capitol here in Pennsylvania to picket a memorial for a celebrated, highly decorated soldier.
They found themselves trying to cross a VERY long, dedicated buffer line of patriotic bikers.
Oddly.....they went away quietly.......8>)
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08/07/2008 11:39:36 AM · #6 |
| Fred Phelps is one of the biggest ASS*!@@#$#)!(*@*&$#&&@(@*&$& on the planet. That guy really needs to go away. I despise his filth. Truly sad on both accounts. |
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08/07/2008 11:50:50 AM · #7 |
its a good thing Im not in Manitoba or a family member of the poor guy murdered as I would prob end up in Jail after beating the s*** out of the picketers...
going for another walk now to cool off... these sons-a-b***** shouldn't be allowed across the border...
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08/07/2008 12:06:31 PM · #8 |
Not to throw this thread too off course, but they also decided to picket the funerals of a few students that were killed in a house fire at a university close to here a few months back. Safe to say they decided to leave after 10 minutes because of the THOUSANDS of students that showed up to show their support for the families and to keep those nut jobs away from the funerals.
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08/07/2008 12:29:01 PM · #9 |
GHetting back on track, have you ever noticed how the clueless PETA people actually run adds promoting the releasing dairy cows into the wild?
How do they justify what essentially amounts to a slow death to animals bred solely for captivity and food production?
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08/07/2008 01:09:54 PM · #10 |
PETA has a small audience that they can affect I think. I have some history of vegetarianism and can relate to what PETA is trying to do - but I definitely agree that they have questionable tactics.
They are trying to humanize animals and enlighten people as to what the corporate machine has done to conventional farming. But the average person is so detached from the food they eat that it is impossible to convince them to change the behavior - especially if it means not eating meat or spending more money on food that is "less cruel" ... even if they might partly agree that animals are unnecessarily abused.
Message edited by author 2008-08-07 14:04:47. |
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08/07/2008 02:40:05 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by metatate:
PETA has a small audience that they can affect I think. I have some history of vegetarianism and can relate to what PETA is trying to do - but I definitely agree that they have questionable tactics.
They are trying to humanize animals and enlighten people as to what the corporate machine has done to conventional farming. But the average person is so detached from the food they eat that it is impossible to convince them to change the behavior - especially if it means not eating meat or spending more money on food that is "less cruel" ... even if they might partly agree that animals are unnecessarily abused. |
Questionable tactics is definitely putting a mighty nice spin on it.
I'd have to say that my own personal experiences with rabid screaming clueless people with no real grip on reality paint a different picture entirely.
Having people like Pamela Anderson for spokespeople doesn't exactly score points in the good sense department, either.
Ever seen one of their demonstrations with a naked person in a cage?
Gotta love that for all 'round good sense!
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08/07/2008 03:20:26 PM · #12 |
We have trouble with bear activists. The annual NJ bear hunt was canceled this year. Now everybody's got bears in their backyards.
I actually don't think humans are any better than other animals, but I still don't like PETA. |
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08/08/2008 10:41:51 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
GHetting back on track, have you ever noticed how the clueless PETA people actually run adds promoting the releasing dairy cows into the wild?
How do they justify what essentially amounts to a slow death to animals bred solely for captivity and food production? |
The shear tone-deaf idiocy of PETA in it's interactions and press has forced me to come to the conclusion that the organization must actually be a brilliant stealth anti-animal rights group. By presenting the argument in the most ridiculous mode imaginable -- and you really must compliment them on their continued creativity in this regard -- PETA has done more to undermine the case for humane treatment of animals than any factory farm lobbying group could have hoped for in their wildest dreams.
The only other option is that these people are blindingly, mind-numbingly, should-not-be-allowed-to-breed dumb.
Message edited by author 2008-08-08 10:54:44. |
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08/08/2008 12:28:42 PM · #14 |
Maybe we should have a Carnivore/Herbivore set of Challenges :P
I making myself a nice big freaking tenderloin steak on the BBQ tonight :D
Should shoot that and email it to PETA.
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08/08/2008 04:20:59 PM · #15 |
PETA recently tried to stop a military drill. There was a live fire drill in which some pigs were to be anestitized and inevitably shot to give medics a chance to treat wounds immediately. PETA said a computer program was adequate as thats how surgeons are now being taught to some extent.
Im not crazy about the idea of shooting pigs to train military, but in a time of war when these medics will most likely use these skills immediately and save lives I can make the sacrifice.
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08/08/2008 04:38:13 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by NVPhoto:
PETA recently tried to stop a military drill. There was a live fire drill in which some pigs were to be anestitized and inevitably shot to give medics a chance to treat wounds immediately. PETA said a computer program was adequate as thats how surgeons are now being taught to some extent.
Im not crazy about the idea of shooting pigs to train military, but in a time of war when these medics will most likely use these skills immediately and save lives I can make the sacrifice. |
I'm surprised the PETA people didn't volunteer to shot instead of the pigs. That would make everyone happier. |
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08/08/2008 04:49:44 PM · #17 |
I guess I have a stupid question. What exactly is suppose to be offensive in the PETA ad? I get how PETA does things most of which I don't agree with but I'm trying to figure out what the problem is in this particular instance. Can someone enlighten me?
Message edited by author 2008-08-08 16:50:51.
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08/08/2008 04:52:48 PM · #18 |
What ad are you referring to? The on in the OP is offensive and insensitive to the family and friends of the victim.
Message edited by author 2008-08-08 16:52:59. |
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08/08/2008 04:54:44 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by yanko:
I guess I have a stupid question. What exactly is suppose to be offensive in the PETA ad? I get how PETA does things most of which I don't agree with but I'm trying to figure out what the problem is in this particular instance. Can someone enlighten me? |
IMO they are exploiting someones murder for their own political gain causing his family much more grief than is necessary, there is no reason at all that they should be using tragedies like this for their advertising...
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08/08/2008 05:09:41 PM · #20 |
Ok so it's not the argument PETA is making in the ad but the fact that they are using a family's tragedy in doing so. I get it. I just got the sense it's a little more than just that. For example, I wonder if there would be the same hoopla if that death took place in say Iraq and there was an anti war ad making an indirect reference to it.
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08/08/2008 08:16:47 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Ok so it's not the argument PETA is making in the ad but the fact that they are using a family's tragedy in doing so. I get it. I just got the sense it's a little more than just that. For example, I wonder if there would be the same hoopla if that death took place in say Iraq and there was an anti war ad making an indirect reference to it. |
I'm pretty sure there has been. I don't remember the specifics, but I believe that a war protest group used the likeness of a soldier who was KIA on a T-shirt and the soldier's family took them to court.
I'll have to look it up.
ETA: looks like it was using the soldiers' names. Linky
Message edited by author 2008-08-08 20:22:10. |
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08/27/2008 07:50:38 PM · #22 |
My wife was on one of the freebie sites and saw free comic books and stickers for the kids. Got them today and they were from peta. The stickers had a slogan on them that made me roll in the floor laughing.
"Meat is not a treat for those you eat"
I'm laughing as I type this.
The comic book: "A Cow's Life"
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08/27/2008 11:09:36 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by dponlyme:
My wife was on one of the freebie sites and saw free comic books and stickers for the kids. Got them today and they were from peta. The stickers had a slogan on them that made me roll in the floor laughing.
"Meat is not a treat for those you eat"
I'm laughing as I type this.
The comic book: "A Cow's Life" |
For quirky one-liners, my favorites were a pair of bumper stickers:
"Man didn't work its way up the food chain to be vegetarian" and
"If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did He make them out of meat?"
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