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Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

04/02/2004 03:42:39 PM · #28

I got a comment on my Free Study picture telling me that it's something that has been shot too many time before. Sort of like people are tired of it. However, it's the only picture in challenge that is like this as apposed to the 15 or so flower shots. I'm not saying anything bad about flower shots becuase they are such great subject matters. But how do you say mine has been over done when it's the only one out 310 pictures that is like it? I don't get it.

.....correction, 35 flower shots. hhhmmmm, that's more than 10%.

HOWEVER, some of those fower shots are absolutely perfect and worthy of a ribbon.

Message edited by author 2004-04-02 15:55:08.

rj324

Nikon D7000

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

04/02/2004 03:54:26 PM · #29

Originally posted by K-Rob:

I got a comment on my Free Study picture telling me that it's something that has been shot too many time before.

I have the same scenario but was expecting those comments. I did one of the tutorials here to try myself and it was harder than I thought. It was a learning experience and I enjoyed it. Low scores I'm getting now really didn't bother me at all. Next free study challenge, I'll select another tutorial here that I've never done before :)

rickhd13

Sigma 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DL Aspherical IF Hyperzoom for Canon

04/02/2004 04:34:47 PM · #30

Originally posted by K-Rob:

I got a comment on my Free Study picture telling me that it's something that has been shot too many time before.

Sounds like the same genius that told me my shot looked like it should be a photo on Ebay

admart01

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

04/02/2004 04:55:21 PM · #31

Originally posted by K-Rob:

So I guess it's not a bird either? :)

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/02/2004 05:01:00 PM · #32

Originally posted by rickhd13:

Originally posted by K-Rob:
I got a comment on my Free Study picture telling me that it's something that has been shot too many time before.

Sounds like the same genius that told me my shot looked like it should be a photo on Ebay

Nice bike :-),but I love cars better!

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

04/02/2004 05:03:02 PM · #33

k-rob, rj324 and rickhd13:

Just an observer in this, but I thought I'd add a different perspective.

I can understand if you don't agree with some comments, but without taking sides, it sounds like it was his opinion, and that's what comments are about. You are not hearing from a panel of professional and paid judges.

You can look at a critique two ways: an attack on your work or as helpful. For the most part, you should realize people aren't wasting their time to attack your work, so even if worded poorly, or not sugar coated, they are offering you "their advice" or at least explaining why they scored you as they did.

You can make use of that information, or you can ignore it. But either way, you might consider that this person took the time to comment, and appreciate that his/her intentions were probably "good".

And if you can avoid being offended, you can perhaps gain from this person sharing their perspective. You can always decide to respectfully disagree and ignore it.

On the other hand, making fun of hopefully well intentioned critiquers in these forums will not solve any problems, except to make people stop critiquing.

In fact, not from personal bad experiences here, but from what I've read in the forums, I am beginning to wonder if this site doesn't need a "Critical Comments" flag on a submission, to indicate whether you are actually interested in hearing criticism. Many people are not. There's nothing wrong with that of course, and another site uses such a flag and text to remind critiquers what level of interest the photographer has in getting critical (and constructive) comments.

Just my own opinion, of course, offered constructively. :)

Message edited by author 2004-04-02 17:30:30.

K-Rob

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

04/02/2004 05:25:01 PM · #34

Originally posted by admart01:

Originally posted by K-Rob:
I got a comment on my Free Study picture telling me that it's something that has been shot too many time before. Sort of like people are tired of it. However, it's the only picture in challenge that is like this as apposed to the 15 or so flower shots. .

So I guess it's not a bird either? :)

Funny! No, not a bird either. But I really wish I had access to some of those birds! I bet it's fun trying to get a good shot of them.

admart01

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

04/02/2004 05:35:29 PM · #35

Originally posted by nshapiro:

k-rob, rj324 and rickhd13:

Just an observer in this, but I thought I'd add a different perspective.

I can understand if you don't agree with some comments, but without taking sides, it sounds like it was his opinion, and that's what comments are about. You are not hearing from a panel of professional and paid judges.

You can look at a critique two ways: an attack on your work or as

helpful. For the most part, you should realize people aren't wasting their time to attack your work, so even if worded poorly, or not sugar coated, they are offering you "their advice" or at least explaining why they scored you as they did.

You can make use of that information, or you can ignore it. But either way, you might consider that this person took the time to comment, and appreciate that his/her intentions were probably "good".

And if you can avoid being offended, you can perhaps gain from this person sharing their perspective. You can always decide to respectfully disagree and ignore it.

On the other hand, making fun of hopefully well intentioned critiquers in these forums will not solve any problems, except to make people stop critiquing.

In fact, not from personal bad experiences here, but from what I've read in the forums, I am beginning to wonder if this site doesn't need a "Critical Comments" flag on a submission, to indicate whether you are actually interested in hearing criticism. Many people are not. There's nothing wrong with that of course, and another site uses such a flag and text to remind critiquers what level of interest the photographer has in getting critical (and constructive) comments.

Just my own opinion, of course, offered constructively. :)

Very well said.

If that other site is worth1000, they do have a great idea in the "don't tell me what you think" flag. Downside is they "strongly" coach folks away from negative feedback so I got some "nice shot" but no where near the critical eye comments I get here. I must admit I'm slowly edging towards less commenting as the investment in time vs. increase in my ability to improve my own photography based on honing my commenting skills isn't paying as well recently.

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

04/02/2004 05:42:42 PM · #36

Originally posted by rickhd13:

Don't call names here!If you don't like comments ,don't post photos!
If I want to sell something on E-Bay, I will place the item on the front of garage and snap!,But I would not use the same photo for competition!

geewhy

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

04/02/2004 05:55:55 PM · #37

Originally posted by admart01:

I must admit I'm slowly edging towards less commenting

Sorry to read that Theresa as I always look forward to your comments..constructive as they are.
Recently, I`ve been doing a little experimenting with my submissions and have relied totally on getting comments.I have also learned quite a bit from the comments received on my current submissions..especially "out of place"..I wouldn`t say I always agree with every criticism but I certainly check it out and take note to improve the points I agree are lacking.
I think what gets most people down is the rather blunt and hurtful way some comments can be delivered.
In the "Out of place" challenge one commenter told me I had totally wasted a brilliant opportunity..the next comment was full of praise for a picture that couldn`t be bettered ??
As always the truth lies somewhere in between and the main point is to sift what useful information the comment may contain and put it to good use in your future work.

04/02/2004 06:01:02 PM · #38

When a comment is based on truth dozen't bother me,helps me improve the next time!When is based on someone's dark/broken monitor,then I got annoyed1

04/02/2004 08:10:36 PM · #39

Ok, ok....I woke up this morning and logged on, (addicted) :) I was just down-founded how my score when down nearly a point or two, can't remember, halve a sleep. Sorry folks about what I wrote this morning and don't take it personal at all... i was just upset a bit, and hey, it's way to early in the voting to even raise a hair about anything. I'm very proud of what i shoot and or make out of photos. I'm just trying to find my knack here with photography as such and no more....This is a great site for us and have learned a lot thus so far. Quite enjoyable when I can submit a photo overall...I must say that I'm looking for my own style of photographing things...and I think I'm taking to hard and hard on myself. hmmm, now I know better on what to submit and don't submit...it's been educational. Thank you for you comments and best regards to all....BTW, I just jumped back up a point and halve since this morning....now I can breath!! :)

Message edited by author 2004-04-02 20:25:57.

04/02/2004 08:18:23 PM · #40

Originally posted by KevinRiggs:

Originally posted by soup:
i would only shoot a nude girl if she was really bad looking ;}

Originally posted by dustin03:
or even shoot a nude girl

ROFL.

(laughing) i wouldn't 'shoot' a nude girl either....

admart01

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

04/02/2004 08:45:23 PM · #41

Originally posted by geewhy:

I wouldn`t say I always agree with every criticism but I certainly check it out and take note to improve the points I agree are lacking.
I think what gets most people down is the rather blunt and hurtful way some comments can be delivered.
In the "Out of place" challenge one commenter told me I had totally wasted a brilliant opportunity..the next comment was full of praise for a picture that couldn`t be bettered ??
As always the truth lies somewhere in between and the main point is to sift what useful information the comment may contain and put it to good use in your future work.

Seems like you've got the mindset to get the best at whatever is written. I do enjoy your photos (as you know)

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

04/02/2004 09:27:06 PM · #42

Originally posted by ramevi:

Originally posted by pitsaman:
I score high photos where photographer is using light (natural or studio) and very low where software is used to change colors and fake the realistic looking of the photograph.Sorry but this is not a "Digital Art Challenge " site and who ever is confusing those 2 things will get low score from lot of us here!

I didn't vote here but this one would get 2 from me !

I really understand your point, but the rules say that hue and saturation are allowed, Digital Photo and Digital Dark Room goes togeather, digital art is much more than saturate or desaturate colors, is combine different images form a picture or some genoiuses mind to create a different and unique one.

So, is a DIGITAL photo contest, not a photo contest.

Hmmmm, Interesting point here....

lettyb

Nikon D3200

04/04/2004 11:27:33 AM · #43

I agree with Dustin. My challenge shot isn't all that great - I just love participating, but I am a little disappointed by the comments that criticize unnatural color, etc. I only played with it that way because I thought Free Studey and Advanced Editing indicated a no-holds-barred type of entry.

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

04/04/2004 12:05:26 PM · #44

Advanced Editing may sound like an opening to no-holds-bared digital art but Photographic Integrity pulls it back down to earth.

Members are reminded to hold photographic integrity in the highest regard when both submitting and voting.

I can't wait for voting to be over to see if Dustin03's entry is too artsy or just not a very good image.

04/04/2004 12:37:48 PM · #45

Originally posted by coolhar:

99.5% of my photo does hold photographic integrity. Apearantly, folks like it....I have gone up termendously with votes...However, still voting season and waiting. :)