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07/05/2008 10:27:26 AM · #1 |
I have been toying with the notion of buying Photoshop CS3 for a while now but, like a lot of photographers, the full price of £569.88 made me feel physically ill. Eventually my husband convinced me to 'bite the bullet' and do it. I logged onto the Adobe site this morning but could not remember my password so I had to trawl through my secondary email box, which I hardly ever use anymore, to find my login details.
Somebody must be smiling down on me today though, because I came across an email from Adobe that had been sent two days ago, that offered a 50% discount on the full version of CS3 for July only!!!. I could not believe my eyes and had to read the promotional email a couple of times. I still did not believe it was true until I had placed my order and the total amount charged was £284.94!
I am now excitedly awaiting my order, which is due on July 12th and grinning from ear to ear like the proverbial Cheshire Cat!!! |
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07/05/2008 10:41:17 AM · #2 |
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07/05/2008 10:51:37 AM · #3 |
thats a good deal but i think you could have gotten it for free if you searched the internet hard enough.
but theres not any big differences between cs2 and cs3 besides the layout of the palette windows. i had cs3 but i went back to cs2 becuase cs3 kept crashing on me.
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07/05/2008 10:53:36 AM · #4 |
I suppose those who are willing to download Photoshop for free, are also willing to take just about anything else they can find ... like using somebody else's pictures and pretending they took them. It all comes down to honesty.
I'm personally glad that  Trinity_12_12 is above that sort of thing. I suggest you re-think the position as well. At 19 years old, you can still change...
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07/05/2008 11:10:18 AM · #5 |
Awesome. Was it a special link, or a code?
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07/05/2008 11:23:47 AM · #6 |
i've read that CS4 is out soon, which probably explains the price discount.
And downloading a programme/movie online is a lot different to "taking anything else" you might find. |
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07/05/2008 11:29:48 AM · #7 |
It was a special link on the email  rjkstesch. Believe me  Tez, I'm quite happy to settle for a half-price copy of CS3 which has everything I need. Can you imagine what CS4 will be priced at? |
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07/05/2008 11:40:06 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
I suppose those who are willing to download Photoshop for free, are also willing to take just about anything else they can find ... like using somebody else's pictures and pretending they took them. It all comes down to honesty.
I'm personally glad that Trinity_12_12 is above that sort of thing. I suggest you re-think the position as well. At 19 years old, you can still change... |
as a 19 year old, i really cant afford to be honest enough to buy a program for 500$. especially when camera equipment is high enough and all my money goes towards that. Im not against buying photoshop. If i was making good money off photography i definitely would do the honest thing and buy it, but im not in that position righ now.
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07/05/2008 11:42:10 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by KirkMcGirt:
Originally posted by dwterry:
I suppose those who are willing to download Photoshop for free, are also willing to take just about anything else they can find ... like using somebody else's pictures and pretending they took them. It all comes down to honesty.
I'm personally glad that Trinity_12_12 is above that sort of thing. I suggest you re-think the position as well. At 19 years old, you can still change... |
as a 19 year old, i really cant afford to be honest enough to buy a program for 500$. especially when camera equipment is high enough and all my money goes towards that. Im not against buying photoshop. If i was making good money off photography i definitely would do the honest thing and buy it, but im not in that position righ now. |
You could do what I do, make do with Photoshop Elements! |
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07/05/2008 11:47:39 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by kawesttex:
Originally posted by KirkMcGirt:
Originally posted by dwterry:
I suppose those who are willing to download Photoshop for free, are also willing to take just about anything else they can find ... like using somebody else's pictures and pretending they took them. It all comes down to honesty.
I'm personally glad that Trinity_12_12 is above that sort of thing. I suggest you re-think the position as well. At 19 years old, you can still change... |
as a 19 year old, i really cant afford to be honest enough to buy a program for 500$. especially when camera equipment is high enough and all my money goes towards that. Im not against buying photoshop. If i was making good money off photography i definitely would do the honest thing and buy it, but im not in that position righ now. |
You could do what I do, make do with Photoshop Elements! |
...or the Gimp, perhaps
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07/05/2008 11:49:28 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by KirkMcGirt:
Originally posted by dwterry:
I suppose those who are willing to download Photoshop for free, are also willing to take just about anything else they can find ... like using somebody else's pictures and pretending they took them. It all comes down to honesty.
I'm personally glad that Trinity_12_12 is above that sort of thing. I suggest you re-think the position as well. At 19 years old, you can still change... |
as a 19 year old, i really cant afford to be honest enough to buy a program for 500$. especially when camera equipment is high enough and all my money goes towards that. Im not against buying photoshop. If i was making good money off photography i definitely would do the honest thing and buy it, but im not in that position righ now. |
That's like saying 'I can't afford the car that I want so I'll just steal it'.
The Gimp is free and so are other pieces of software like paint.net. |
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07/05/2008 11:59:12 AM · #12 |
Way I see it..If I can't afford it...I don't really need it and will have to get by with something less expensive. Or do it the old fashioned way..make your money another way instead of relying on photography to pay the bills, save the cash and make the purchase. I am still working a full time job to pay my bills...photography is a tough business to survive on. So many overhead prices, months when NO money is coming in... budgeting is key!!
Message edited by author 2008-07-05 15:25:36.
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07/05/2008 12:13:13 PM · #13 |
| Dirk 'the burk' McTwerp . As a nineteen year old you're an idiot, which is normal. You can always push out Raskolnikov's argument to justify the means, but fictional characters are not like you and me, ie living in the real world. As some sort of general principle, I would be only too happy to back you up against the faceless throng of preachers of second hand morality, but for the sake of practical advice: Play all you want with your conscience and morals so you can watch them work, but keep your head down and keep your trap shut. The Internet may be, and probably is, tightening. Next to what catches up with you if it does, you'll look like a saint. |
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07/05/2008 12:29:26 PM · #14 |
Vicki,
Great find on your deal :) I hope you have fun with it.
What I find so interesting is looking at both portfolios of Vicki and Kirk. Talk about compare and contrast! Both in my opinion with such talent...one soft and lovely, the other brash and hard edge. Might also explain more fully why Kirk has the view he does about taking a "free" copy of Photoshop. I'll be the first to admit I know nothing about gangs, but the sterotype of "take what you can" might apply here. |
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07/05/2008 12:47:58 PM · #15 |
Just have to remember this.. I would never use or recommend a photographer for ANY type of work knowing that they use pirated software for developing, etc.. Leads me to think that maybe they didn't pay for their equip. as well. You just can't tell when someone openly admits to getting something for free knowing it is illegal.
Message edited by author 2008-07-05 15:25:50.
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07/05/2008 01:05:59 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Truegsht:
... I am still working a full time job to pay my bills...photography is a tough business to survive on. So many overhead prices, months when NO money is coming in... |
Well that blows my easy money retirement plan out of the water....
Dang!
PS: I don't have PS either, legit or otherwise..
Message edited by author 2008-07-05 13:06:51.
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07/05/2008 01:21:08 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by raish:
Dirk 'the burk' McTwerp . As a nineteen year old you're an idiot, which is normal. You can always push out Raskolnikov's argument to justify the means, but fictional characters are not like you and me, ie living in the real world. As some sort of general principle, I would be only too happy to back you up against the faceless throng of preachers of second hand morality, but for the sake of practical advice: Play all you want with your conscience and morals so you can watch them work, but keep your head down and keep your trap shut. The Internet may be, and probably is, tightening. Next to what catches up with you if it does, you'll look like a saint. |
Dont appreciate the crack on my name but ill take everything else you said as harsh but supportive advice haha. Probably shouldnt have said anything, next time i will shut my trap.
Originally posted by Memberjpochard:
Vicki,
Great find on your deal :) I hope you have fun with it.
What I find so interesting is looking at both portfolios of Vicki and Kirk. Talk about compare and contrast! Both in my opinion with such talent...one soft and lovely, the other brash and hard edge. Might also explain more fully why Kirk has the view he does about taking a "free" copy of Photoshop. I'll be the first to admit I know nothing about gangs, but the sterotype of "take what you can" might apply here. |
you maybe right. i grew up around people with that gang mentality and it has rubbed off on me a little. Im not tryna make this an argument of why be honest when you can cheat. i was just tryna help Trinity_12_12 out on maybe saving a bundle next time she needs programs. but who wants to make do with photoshop elements when a free cs3 download is waving at you? In terms of DPChallenge's competitions i wouldnt want to watch as others use cs3 on their photos and im stuck with some secondhand program that cant do nothing. You can continue doing things the honest way and buying your programs or whatever. Meanwhile kids as young as 12 are downloading photoshop and learning on their own for free what others go to school and get degrees for.
Message edited by author 2008-07-05 13:42:35. |
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07/05/2008 01:31:39 PM · #18 |
| It's pretty amazing what you can end up doing with Elements 2.0 or 3.0 and you can get those (or the latest version available) for around 100 bucks. A few plug ins, some effort, and some work can deliver some pretty excellent results. It seems to work for the likes of timfythetoo. I was going to upgrade to CS2 /CS3 but I will continue to limp along with Elements 3 for a while longer... |
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07/05/2008 01:46:37 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by KirkMcGirt:
Dont appreciate the crack on my name but ill take everything else you said as harsh but supportive advice haha. Probably shouldnt have said anything, next time i will shut my trap. |
Sorry about that - got carried away.
Vicki, well done, enjoy - loads to learn... |
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07/05/2008 01:47:11 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by raish:
Dirk 'the burk' McTwerp . As a nineteen year old you're an idiot, which is normal. |
Wow dude, you definitely have an attitude! |
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07/05/2008 02:00:39 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
I suppose those who are willing to download Photoshop for free, are also willing to take just about anything else they can find ... like using somebody else's pictures and pretending they took them. It all comes down to honesty.
I'm personally glad that Trinity_12_12 is above that sort of thing. I suggest you re-think the position as well. At 19 years old, you can still change... |
Not really, we should have to pay to express our art.
Also its not stealing if it wasn't anyones in the first place, its not a objects its a set of files which can be duplicated time and time again, Adobe wont loose sleep over it, but im sure id loose sleep if i paid out for it.
im gonna regret getting involved LOLZZ!!!!!
Message edited by author 2008-07-05 14:02:51. |
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07/05/2008 02:03:41 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
I suppose those who are willing to download Photoshop for free, are also willing to take just about anything else they can find ... like using somebody else's pictures and pretending they took them. It all comes down to honesty.
I'm personally glad that Trinity_12_12 is above that sort of thing. I suggest you re-think the position as well. At 19 years old, you can still change... |
I pirate a ton of stuff. That being said, my copies of Adobe products are all legit. The idea that just because a person "borrows" software (it's not even stealing... someone bought it at somepoint) that they live a morally corrupt and devoid life and steal anything they can get their hands on is naive. That's coming from an 18 year old. Yeah, I've gotten in my share of trouble (we all have, I'm sure), but I'm a good person. I've never stolen ANYTHING from ANYONE. I have, however, had stuff stolen from me, so I know how much it bites. Making the association that someone who uses pirated software will steal someone else's images or possessions is like comparing an apple to an orange. It doesn't really work.
And I'd like to add (edit btw) that whenever I do use other photographer's work, it's with all credit given to them, and credit only to me where it's deserved (for example, I do some editing work for some of my friends' pictures). To say they've taken some great pictures is an understatement. I could've swiped and posted them, but I didn't.
Message edited by author 2008-07-05 14:10:56. |
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07/05/2008 02:16:54 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by JayA:
Also its not stealing if it wasn't anyones in the first place, its not a objects its a set of files which can be duplicated time and time again, Adobe wont loose sleep over it, but im sure id loose sleep if i paid out for it. |
I'm not sure how you feel that a set of files don't belong to someone just because they can be duplicated. That was the only reason I made reference to using another photographer's images up above... to point out that, even though it is easily copied, it still belongs to the person that made it.
In Photoshop's case, if you click on Help | About, you can see a list of the names of those people who have spent many long hours of their life putting together Photoshop so that their customers can benefit from their labors. That list includes:
Thomas Knoww, Seethaarman Narayanan, Andrew Coven, Julie Kmoch, Scott Byer, Russell Williams, Marc Pawliger, David Howe, Christopher Haupt, Jlie Meridian, Joe Ault, Christopher Bailey, Vinod Balakrishnan, Ralf Berger, Jeff Chien, Jon Clauson, Michael Clifton, Chris Cox, Alan Erickson, Pete Falco, Paul Ferguson, Todor Georgiev, Jerry Harris, Chintan Intwala, Edward Kandrot, Sarah Kong, Darin Krauss, Aravind Krishnaswamy, Tai Luxon, Mark Maguire, John Penn II, John Peterson, Tom Pinkerton, Dave Polaschek, Tom Ruark, Geoff Scott, Steve Troppoli, John Worthington, Tim Wright, Rick Wulff, Jackie Lincoln-Owyang, Yukie Takahashi, Barry Young, Kelly Davis, Lisa King, John Nack, Ashley Still, Pam Clark, Maria Yap, Kevin Conner, Sandesh Joseph Almeida, Shilpa Bhan, Shigenori Ohira, Anand Kamat, Dave Dobish, Ryo Ishibe, Brian Sonet, Pankaj Kapoor, Del Schneider, Paul Tao
I'm pretty sure those are probably "just" the developers. There are probably a hundred more people involved ... from packaging up the product, marketing it, to supporting it.
Those are all real people. Real people from whom you would be taking their hard work without retribution. Put yourself on the other end and of equation and see how it feels.
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And at 18 or 19 years old, you've probably never spent hours away from your family, working to put food on the table, only to see that work "taken advantage of". So maybe you can't relate. Yet. You will though. I promise.
Message edited by author 2008-07-05 14:18:35.
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07/05/2008 02:31:21 PM · #24 |
Message edited by author 2008-07-05 14:34:00. |
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07/05/2008 02:35:12 PM · #25 |
| You'll become software engineers/designers and want to get paid for your work... :-) |
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