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06/16/2008 09:44:01 PM · #1 |
Anyone else here on dpchallenge run into religious fanatics trying to drive you out of photography or imaging/design work? Maybe it's just me. First off, I am not trying to promote myself or pump my pics. I am just hoping to capture some opinions on how to deal with self righteous arrogant fanatics that think they have the ultimate plan for mankind. On my profile page I have temporarily posted 4 photoshop art images that I recently put together mainly for this thread. I am not looking for feedback on the images, but I am looking for answers as to how these images can be considered offensive. I have done these types of images in the past and have been harassed to no end. These 4 images have been up for just a couple of days and already I have been harassed at my home, by this group, and I don't even have a name for them, nor do I have any names of the individuals. I think I can handle the harassment so long it doesn't turn violent. The main issue for me is WHY are these types of images such a problem? Any suggestions?
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06/16/2008 09:51:30 PM · #2 |
| I'm not seeing anything wrong with the images. The only thing I could think somebody might get offended by is the one with the topless girl for suggested nudity. What kinda heat are you taking for them anyway? |
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06/16/2008 09:56:28 PM · #3 |
I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of these images. As far as the religious zealots to... screw em.
Ray |
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06/16/2008 10:01:04 PM · #4 |
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06/16/2008 10:02:14 PM · #5 |
| Nothing wrong in my opinion.. |
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06/16/2008 10:03:14 PM · #6 |
I have NO idea what is wrong with these images that would provoke outcry from anyone.
They are very nice IMNSHO, and truly interesting and intriguing on top of being creative and well done from a technical standpoint.
They're mystical and evocative and leave me wondering what will be next.
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06/16/2008 10:03:29 PM · #7 |
I see nothing wrong with the photos, and I'm going to refrain from commenting further.
Message edited by author 2008-06-16 22:38:27. |
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06/16/2008 10:05:55 PM · #8 |
| A question for you -- (mainly out of curiousity). If you don't know who they are, and you don't have a name for them, how do you know they are religious fanatics? |
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06/16/2008 10:07:17 PM · #9 |
| i gotta agree with Phil and question the validity of this post |
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06/16/2008 10:07:20 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Phil:
I call bs |
So do I...but probably not for the same reasons. |
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06/16/2008 10:09:18 PM · #11 |
| A cat, a tunnel, a mirror, a boat? So give some background. Who are these people? How did they find you? Why are they picking on you? What do they say about these photos? What site were they posted on, or what city was the gallery in, to cause such a stir? What's your definition of harassment? |
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06/16/2008 10:09:26 PM · #12 |
| "We are trying to make the world a better place" is probably what I here the most from these people. They have come to my door (got address from former co-workers). I now answer the door with camera in hand and snap their pics as well as their license plate numbers. So far they have managed to talk their way out of all my complaints to police. They have also harassed my former employer with verbal slander directed at me, to the point of me having to quit my job. NONE of my images have ever contained nudity other than implied, however, one of my previous images did contain a crying child. I heard that some people take great offence to those types of images. Anyway, this very unusual for Canada. |
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06/16/2008 10:10:32 PM · #13 |
| When you say you are being harassed, how exactly? If anyone is using the site PM system to send you harassing messages, then immediately report those messages to us (send the text of the original message), and we *will* deal with it. We take harassment of our members *very* seriously. |
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06/16/2008 10:11:31 PM · #14 |
Hi,
I looked at the photographs and find them very creative and well executed. I think you should take considerable pride in your work. They are not my particular cup of tea, but is neither here nor there and it is very clear that you are a true artist.
As for the self righteous self important types who feel obliged to cram everyone into their own narrow minded view of the world: consider the source. (To be honest, the fact that one of the shots contained a topless model completely escaped my notice. As it didn't seem to be instrumental to the apparent message of the picture, I trust you would hold me guiltless for the oversight.)
I will keep an eye on your work and see if I can understand it a bit better. Keep up the great work.
Best of everything,
Bill |
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06/16/2008 10:11:52 PM · #15 |
How in the world do the images that you just posted relate to be harrassed by someone coming to your door? Did you show the images to them? I see no negative posts or comments.
I guess I am totally confused as to your concerns. It seems your are venting on a situation that appears to be completely unrelated to the topic in this thread. |
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06/16/2008 10:11:54 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
"We are trying to make the world a better place" is probably what I here the most from these people. |
Again, what makes them religious fanatics. Not saying they aren't, but if they are harassing you, I supopose they pulled your name out of a hat or something. |
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06/16/2008 10:14:13 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
"We are trying to make the world a better place" is probably what I here the most from these people. They have come to my door (got address from former co-workers). I now answer the door with camera in hand and snap their pics as well as their license plate numbers. So far they have managed to talk their way out of all my complaints to police. They have also harassed my former employer with verbal slander directed at me, to the point of me having to quit my job. NONE of my images have ever contained nudity other than implied, however, one of my previous images did contain a crying child. I heard that some people take great offence to those types of images. Anyway, this very unusual for Canada. |
Doesn't add up. It's unusual for anywhere. |
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06/16/2008 10:14:25 PM · #18 |
| Please don't question the validity of this post. I have already filed complaints with Canada's RCMP. I really don't care if anyone here likes or dislikes the images, I just want to now why some people have problems with them. I will remove the images this evening. My main problem is on pbase, where certain photographers argued that the images shouldn't be on a photography site. I agree to a certain degree with that, but I had an account and wanted to make use of it. |
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06/16/2008 10:16:39 PM · #19 |
it seems to me that you may beconfusing two situations - one where people are debating digital art and photography and another situation where someone is coming to your door and bothering you about religion.
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
Please don't question the validity of this post. I have already filed complaints with Canada's RCMP. I really don't care if anyone here likes or dislikes the images, I just want to now why some people have problems with them. I will remove the images this evening. My main problem is on pbase, where certain photographers argued that the images shouldn't be on a photography site. I agree to a certain degree with that, but I had an account and wanted to make use of it. |
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06/16/2008 10:18:08 PM · #20 |
We're not questioning the validity of your posts. You came on here, calling a group of people religious fanatics and other names, never explain why, and everyone on here is saying they don't understand why anyone would be upset about them, either.
Maybe they aren't religious fanatics but photography purists who hate anything photoshopped?
Other than that, I'm kinda confused what you what you want from us. |
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06/16/2008 10:20:08 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by dieselphoto:
Please don't question the validity of this post. I have already filed complaints with Canada's RCMP. I really don't care if anyone here likes or dislikes the images, I just want to now why some people have problems with them. I will remove the images this evening. My main problem is on pbase, where certain photographers argued that the images shouldn't be on a photography site. I agree to a certain degree with that, but I had an account and wanted to make use of it. |
Certain photographers that come to your house argue that those 4 particular images shouldn't be on a photo site? |
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06/16/2008 10:22:46 PM · #22 |
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06/16/2008 10:23:18 PM · #23 |
| What am I missing here? You put up some photos on your profile page here and other places online. Now suddenly anonymous do-gooder strangers are showing up at your home and work harassing you to the point that you had to call the cops and quit your job? It's late and I had a long day at work, but this thread confuses me. Surely there has to be more to this story to fill in some gaps. |
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06/16/2008 10:25:05 PM · #24 |
They're lovely photos, exactly the kind of stuff I like. There is nothing in the least controversial about them; anyone who has said so probably needs their head examined. Perhaps the people coming to your door are Jehovah's Witnesses, and their interest in you has nothing to do with photography? (I usually invite such people in and tell them why I'm not a Witness. Sometimes they come back -- I make an impressive espresso -- usually not.)
None of the photos have photographer's comments. If you could add a few to let us know the meaning behind them, perhaps it would help. It's not obvious from the pictures themselves, which are beautiful but enigmatic. |
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06/16/2008 10:25:44 PM · #25 |
Bassbone.....You beleive that the two are unrelated? Never thought of that angle before. The only problem is that the my issues start whenever I post a new
website...I don't know.
Anyway thanks everyone for your help. Next time I will just ask more general questions, rather than having people look at the images. It was not my
intention to seek feedback other than if something is wrong or not with them, which could be posted here. Without a sample, it's harder to know what
type of images I am talking about.
Note to Karmat: Maybe you're right. The thought also crossed my mind that my former employers are having some fun with me since I quit my job. |
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