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06/11/2008 08:39:40 PM · #126
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by egamble:

I am tottally challenged in mathematics. :(

Plan B.


And the other :)

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06/11/2008 09:48:30 PM · #127
so I'd love for some of those 3 votes to fess up *LOL* since apparently i'm getting a lot of them :P not that I give a doodle about this particular entry but its kinda sad that an entry that is unquestionably high-contrast is getting 3's!? are the voters blindfolded ? *sticks out her tongue and does the neener-neener face at them* :-P

80 votes and not a single comment as to why they're scoring so either high or low? heh

voters will vote as the voters will vote (most of the time on the extreme low too -heh-)

Message edited by author 2008-06-11 21:49:27.
06/11/2008 09:50:35 PM · #128
Votes: 76
Views: 108
Avg Vote: 4.0263
Comments: 3
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 06/11/08 09:49 pm



I hope it stays above a four..I will be dissapointed with less than a four. Even though it is my first challenge. I really thought my idea would get better support.
06/11/2008 10:14:33 PM · #129
Jeez, my score is taking a beating at the moment. Still above 6 (just!), but rapidly slip slidin' away. Play nice people. :)
06/11/2008 10:25:45 PM · #130
Originally posted by Love6:

so I'd love for some of those 3 votes to fess up *LOL* since apparently i'm getting a lot of them :P not that I give a doodle about this particular entry but its kinda sad that an entry that is unquestionably high-contrast is getting 3's!? are the voters blindfolded ? *sticks out her tongue and does the neener-neener face at them* :-P

80 votes and not a single comment as to why they're scoring so either high or low? heh


Sounds like we are neck-and-neck for brown on this one... My current stats:

Votes: 70
Views: 100
Avg Vote: 3.9571
Comments: 0

Which is quite a bit up from the very low threes I started with. I'm satisfied with this, because it's confirming what I already knew -- abstract is just not my "thing" (I submitted a rather abstract entry for this as both an experiment and something new to play with). If I break into a 4.x, I'll be pleasantly surprised. :P
06/11/2008 10:37:22 PM · #131
Gee, there're a quite a few zoo shots in this challenge (at least I assume they were taken in zoos). Was there a DPC get together at a zoo somewhere recently?
06/12/2008 04:36:41 AM · #132
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Looks like my image perfect one not less & not more since I didn't got a single comment yet :). I am having feeling that this time the color image may get a blue.
06/12/2008 08:17:51 AM · #133
Here are some great high contrast images:

High Contrast Images
06/12/2008 08:21:13 AM · #134
thanks bob, those are great examples.
06/12/2008 08:30:11 AM · #135
Originally posted by bmartuch:

Here are some great high contrast images:

High Contrast Images


Hmmm. Maybe I should have amped up the processing. We'll see what turns up with a ribbon, but I'm imagining the average DPC voter dinging something like that for TOO much contrast. (as backwards as that sounds for a "high contrast" challenge.)
06/12/2008 08:32:22 AM · #136
Originally posted by Jaker:

Originally posted by bmartuch:

Here are some great high contrast images:

High Contrast Images


Hmmm. Maybe I should have amped up the processing. We'll see what turns up with a ribbon, but I'm imagining the average DPC voter dinging something like that for TOO much contrast. (as backwards as that sounds for a "high contrast" challenge.)


Votes: 88
Views: 117
Avg Vote: 5.7955
Comments: 3
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 06/12/08 08:30 am

I seem to be going back and forth between high 5.8 to high 5.7, so I'm guessing I'll finish with a 5.0! :-)
06/12/2008 08:52:01 AM · #137
well, so far i've left a cut and paste note on 25 images on that precise thing; lots of lovely images in the challenge - very few high contrast images. ah well, maybe next time there'll be a better explanation beforehand...
06/12/2008 09:02:05 AM · #138
Originally posted by xianart:

well, so far i've left a cut and paste note on 25 images on that precise thing; lots of lovely images in the challenge - very few high contrast images. ah well, maybe next time there'll be a better explanation beforehand...


Thanks for your note on mine -- cut and pasted I'm sure :)

Just like high-key, gobo, and other photography terms, they've been butchered by the masses so that they have not only lost their original true meaning, they have so many differing meanings that it does not surprise me when each person approaches their voting with a different expectation in mind.

I went with the definition I knew of "dark/light subject on the opposing background" -- thus high contrast between the subject and background. But I do appreciate your explaining your definition too.

That's why I felt this was just a small Free Study. :)
06/12/2008 09:05:38 AM · #139
Originally posted by xianart:

well, so far i've left a cut and paste note on 25 images on that precise thing; lots of lovely images in the challenge - very few high contrast images. ah well, maybe next time there'll be a better explanation beforehand...

Thanks for the cut and paste note explaining why my high contrast image is not high contrast. Your very narrow definition (must be all 0 and all 255 with no intervening tones) is off base. You have chosen, as is your prerogative, to add a much narrower definition to this challenge than was offered. My humble opinion is that an image can be high contrast and contain pleasant midrange pixels between 1 and 254. This is not a high key or a low key challenge, which you are attempting to proselytize. No offense taken by your "cut & paste" comments. No offense intended by my reaction.
06/12/2008 09:09:23 AM · #140
Originally posted by bmartuch:

Here are some great high contrast images:

High Contrast Images


found that same link when I searched contrast--
but I dont' think high contrast needs to be ONLY B&W either- I've seen some great contrast on color that is high (IE an extrememly bright BGRND with an extrememly dark subject of another color) :)
the voters will vote as the voters vote- they're dinging me a bunch and mine is undoubtably high contrast :P and I don't care! *HAH!* chew on THAT you low voters! *LOL* :) :-D

I'm sure the top blue will probably be a great shot; there are some wonderful images in this challenge- I do look forward to seeing what the bottom of the barrel shots will be tho- as far as high-contrast goes; and if people are voting more on evenly developed than on the subject of high contrast ;) :-D *heh* :) I also look forward to my 1st comment; if I ever get one...
06/12/2008 09:30:13 AM · #141
Originally posted by bmartuch:

Here are some great high contrast images:

High Contrast Images

Here's a great high contrast image, too. While not as harsh as your link, it's still high contrast (and a ribbon winner). Just as "high humidity" doesn't necessarily mean 99%, there are plenty of other examples within the top 10 of both past challenges with strong light and dark areas that are nowhere near the extreme "threshold" look of those in your link.
06/12/2008 09:37:10 AM · #142
no offence taken!

extreme high contrast is just black and white, but high contrast should have a much more limited tonal range than a contrasty image. a lot of the images in this challenge are really much closer to contrasty (filter 3 in the ilford multigrade filter pack) than high contrast (filters 4 and 5) i'm an art teacher, a cambridge art examiner and have a fine arts degree (as do many others here), so think i can be pretty objective on these things. just so you know, i have only given out a very few 4s in this challenge so far, most are 5 and up, so i don't penalise - i take each image individually.

ramble ramble ramble...

shannon, i'd call that a contrasty image. absolutely lovely, but not really high contrast.

Message edited by author 2008-06-12 09:38:24.
06/12/2008 09:40:48 AM · #143
Originally posted by xianart:

i'd call that a contrasty image. absolutely lovely, but not really high contrast.

It wouldn't be contrasty if it didn't feature high contrast!
06/12/2008 10:33:39 AM · #144
Originally posted by xianart:

i'm an art teacher, a cambridge art examiner and have a fine arts degree (as do many others here), so think i can be pretty objective on these things.


Yeah, I think we should go with her explaination, she knows what she is talking about
06/12/2008 10:39:53 AM · #145
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by xianart:

i'd call that a contrasty image. absolutely lovely, but not really high contrast.

It wouldn't be contrasty if it didn't feature high contrast!


as in all things art, it is mutable, and subtle, but there is a line between contrasty and high contrast. contrasty has strong darks and lights, but still has a relatively smooth tonal transition between the two,with subtle gradations of tone between. high contrast has strong darks and lights with few intermediary tones. so, of course there is a 'grey area' (ha, sorry, pun penny in the pun jar...) between contrasty and high contrast - basically the fewer the tones, the closer it is to high contrast. high contrast is the extreme end of contrast. 'contrasty' is not.
06/12/2008 10:40:03 AM · #146
This is clearly an image with high contrast!

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06/12/2008 10:51:03 AM · #147
Five of a kind...

Votes: 90
Views: 128
Avg Vote: 4.4444
Comments: 1
06/12/2008 10:53:20 AM · #148
If you look at how contrast is used outside of art and photography then it makes defining it IN art and photography a little easier. (At least in my opinion)

Contrast is the dissimilarity or difference between things.

So going by that idea, it doesn't need to be dark/light. It can be a contrast in color as well. E.g. red ball on blue background.

I think that high key images are often high contrast well but not always. (i.e the difference between the highlights and shadows is slight)

Just my opinion.

Back to the scores...
06/12/2008 11:13:44 AM · #149
Originally posted by Kelli:

Five of a kind...

Votes: 90
Views: 128
Avg Vote: 4.4444
Comments: 1


ohohohohoh don't you win with that score???? is that like a full house????
06/12/2008 11:17:08 AM · #150
Originally posted by from the Team Suck thread:

frankly, i would call high key generally overexposed, whereas high contrast can be mainly dark as well - the main thing is the high and low tones with no intermediate. high key is all high tones.

high key, high contrast: high key, low contrast:

low key, high contrast: low key, low contrast:

high contrast: low contrast:
if there is no qualifier (high or low key) the image is understood to be exposed 'correctly' or averagely.

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