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06/12/2002 07:34:17 PM · #1
It's the old right brain (creative) -Vs- left brain (logical) dilemma. I try to think of something creative and unusual, but end up seeing shadows from a bridge or a set of tall buildings. Of course this is logical, tall things make great shadows. Not that there is anything wrong with these subjects. The right photographer could turn almost anything into something special, but I'm trying to find something a bit more on the unusual side and coming up blank. Is there a safe herbal remedy for this or do I just need to wait for the next life and hope I get to be more of an artistic type in it?
-Gene L.
06/12/2002 07:51:44 PM · #2
Hey, don't get so disheartened!
some guys get great ideas straight away but still have to wait until the opportunity comes along. Your tractor shot was spot-on and I scored this much higher than my own effort finished with, you have a good camera so relax and enjoy.

Vin

Originally posted by Gene L.:
It's the old right brain (creative) -Vs- left brain (logical) dilemma. I try to think of something creative and unusual, but end up seeing shadows from a bridge or a set of tall buildings. Of course this is logical, tall things make great shadows. Not that there is anything wrong with these subjects. The right photographer could turn almost anything into something special, but I'm trying to find something a bit more on the unusual side and coming up blank. Is there a safe herbal remedy for this or do I just need to wait for the next life and hope I get to be more of an artistic type in it?
-Gene L.



06/12/2002 08:37:48 PM · #3
There is an herbal remedy that sometimes spawns interesting creativity but I don't think you can get it at the Walmart pharmacy :)


Originally posted by Gene L.:
It's the old right brain (creative) -Vs- left brain (logical) dilemma. I try to think of something creative and unusual, but end up seeing shadows from a bridge or a set of tall buildings. Of course this is logical, tall things make great shadows. Not that there is anything wrong with these subjects. The right photographer could turn almost anything into something special, but I'm trying to find something a bit more on the unusual side and coming up blank. Is there a safe herbal remedy for this or do I just need to wait for the next life and hope I get to be more of an artistic type in it?
-Gene L.


06/12/2002 08:42:38 PM · #4
so *thaaaaat's* what you meant by foliage. . . . .

;)


Originally posted by jmsetzler:
There is an herbal remedy that sometimes spawns interesting creativity but I don't think you can get it at the Walmart pharmacy :)


Originally posted by Gene L.:
[i]It's the old right brain (creative) -Vs- left brain (logical) dilemma. I try to think of something creative and unusual, but end up seeing shadows from a bridge or a set of tall buildings. Of course this is logical, tall things make great shadows. Not that there is anything wrong with these subjects. The right photographer could turn almost anything into something special, but I'm trying to find something a bit more on the unusual side and coming up blank. Is there a safe herbal remedy for this or do I just need to wait for the next life and hope I get to be more of an artistic type in it?
-Gene L.


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06/12/2002 08:45:39 PM · #5
That herbal remedy just gave me the illusion of creavity. All it inspired was laziness, hunger, and paranoia

Hey, take that bridge or building shot, use every zoom lenght, and a few times of day, you will find something new there.

Originally posted by jmsetzler:
There is an herbal remedy that sometimes spawns interesting creativity but I don''t think you can get it at the Walmart pharmacy :)


Originally posted by Gene L.:
[i]It''s the old right brain (creative) -Vs- left brain (logical) dilemma. I try to think of something creative and unusual, but end up seeing shadows from a bridge or a set of tall buildings. Of course this is logical, tall things make great shadows. Not that there is anything wrong with these subjects. The right photographer could turn almost anything into something special, but I''m trying to find something a bit more on the unusual side and coming up blank. Is there a safe herbal remedy for this or do I just need to wait for the next life and hope I get to be more of an artistic type in it?
-Gene L.


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* This message has been edited by the author on 6/12/2002 8:45:53 PM.


* This message has been edited by the author on 6/12/2002 8:46:18 PM.
06/13/2002 02:03:15 PM · #6
Originally posted by Zeissman:
That herbal remedy just gave me the illusion of creavity. All it inspired was laziness, hunger, and paranoia

Hey, take that bridge or building shot, use every zoom lenght, and a few times of day, you will find something new there.


Thanks for the input, I think you are absolutely right. Go out there and shoot any and everything from every angle possible. Even if it doesn't create the perfect photo it is bound to stimulate some creativity.

I've been a complete left brain technical type for many years, but am finding a new way to look at things and share a glimpse of how I see through the camera. It's a Godsend to find something that feels so completely me. Maybe it's the perfect blend of technical challenge and artistic endeavor.
-Gene L.
06/13/2002 02:53:16 PM · #7
Originally posted by Gene L.:
Originally posted by Zeissman:
[i]That herbal remedy just gave me the illusion of creavity. All it inspired was laziness, hunger, and paranoia

Hey, take that bridge or building shot, use every zoom lenght, and a few times of day, you will find something new there.


Thanks for the input, I think you are absolutely right. Go out there and shoot any and everything from every angle possible. Even if it doesn't create the perfect photo it is bound to stimulate some creativity.

I've been a complete left brain technical type for many years, but am finding a new way to look at things and share a glimpse of how I see through the camera. It's a Godsend to find something that feels so completely me. Maybe it's the perfect blend of technical challenge and artistic endeavor.
-Gene L.[/i]

Couldn't agree more - I have very little artistic ability - can't draw/ paint to save myself, but photography has about the right mix to let me explore

06/13/2002 03:35:38 PM · #8
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
Couldn't agree more - I have very little artistic ability - can't draw/ paint to save myself, but photography has about the right mix to let me explore



That's also how I got into graphic arts -- I CAN draw a straight line with a computer!
06/13/2002 03:42:21 PM · #9
Main Entry: cre·a·tive
Pronunciation: krE-'A-tiv, 'krE-"
Function: adjective
Date: 1678
1 : marked by the ability or power to create : given to creating <the creative impulse>
2 : having the quality of something created rather than imitated : IMAGINATIVE <the creative arts>

I don't think how well you can coordinate your mind's eye and your hand is any valid metric of creativity :). there are a million forms of creativity, from making funny jokes, to inventing innovative study designs. no one is any more or less valid than the other.

traditional definitions are meaningless in the digital/information age, as we become more and more tech-enhanced. more people will create, and there will be a finer and finer line between the 'amateur' and the 'pro'.
06/13/2002 03:50:29 PM · #10
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
Main Entry: cre·a·tive
Pronunciation: krE-''A-tiv, ''krE-"
Function: adjective
Date: 1678
1 : marked by the ability or power to create : given to creating <the creative impulse>
2 : having the quality of something created rather than imitated : IMAGINATIVE <the creative arts>

I don''t think how well you can coordinate your mind''s eye and your hand is any valid metric of creativity :). there are a million forms of creativity, from making funny jokes, to inventing innovative study designs. no one is any more or less valid than the other.


This begs two interesting questions.

1. Can a non-setup shot ever be creative?
2. Can a "classic" (cliche) shot ever be creative?

-Terry


* This message has been edited by the author on 6/13/2002 3:52:55 PM.
06/13/2002 03:54:56 PM · #11
I think so... Based on the dictionary definition, I like the term "imaginative" better...
06/13/2002 03:57:55 PM · #12
I believe there is a lot of creativity in the processing of the image. If we just saw something, took it, and submitted it, that is one thing, but trying different angles and lens settings, sharpening and adjusting until the desired affect is acheived is very creative to me.


06/17/2002 03:03:05 AM · #13
Originally posted by Gene L.:
It''s the old right brain (creative) -Vs- left brain (logical) dilemma. I try to think of something creative and unusual, but end up seeing shadows from a bridge or a set of tall buildings. Of course this is logical, tall things make great shadows. Not that there is anything wrong with these subjects. The right photographer could turn almost anything into something special, but I''m trying to find something a bit more on the unusual side and coming up blank. Is there a safe herbal remedy for this or do I just need to wait for the next life and hope I get to be more of an artistic type in it?
-Gene L.


When I draw a blank while writing, I just start typing something, anything. Pure garbage, just pound it out. Same with photography - when the muse goes walkabout, I start taking pictures that ''break all the rules.'' I love what I get accidentally sometimes, and then I''m thinking how I could have done it better...and then I''m being creative again.

I was in NYC this last week - my wife was driving me through Manhattan, she''s from Hell''s Kitchen originally. I felt very un-creative. So I took out my Aiptek "Mega Cam" toy digital camera and started hanging it out the window of the car and taking shots without aiming it, framing shots, nothing. Got this...

Seeing is Believing

I''m not saying its anything great, but as an accident, it sure got me thinking about using new angles, worrying less about composition, etc. Worked for me!

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

* This message has been edited by the author on 6/17/2002 3:05:21 AM.
07/24/2009 04:13:47 AM · #14
Originally posted by bmattock:

...

Seeing is Believing



linkee no workee. :(
07/24/2009 05:55:31 AM · #15
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by bmattock:

...

Seeing is Believing



linkee no workee. :(


Probably because it's a 7 year old link!
07/24/2009 07:51:03 AM · #16
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by bmattock:

...

Seeing is Believing



linkee no workee. :(


Probably because it's a 7 year old link!


Or more like spam necromancy that I didn't notice....
The spam above me was recent, which I saw, but didn't note it was spam, and didn't see the other ones were old. DAMN YOU SPAM!
07/24/2009 08:03:31 AM · #17
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by bmattock:

...

Seeing is Believing



linkee no workee. :(


Probably because it's a 7 year old link!


Or more like spam necromancy that I didn't notice....
The spam above me was recent, which I saw, but didn't note it was spam, and didn't see the other ones were old. DAMN YOU SPAM!

LOL. The spam apparently has something to do with the brain. The spammer's username is "Brain Adams". Hehehheehhe. A play on the singer, Brian Adams.... get it? get it? get it?

Message edited by author 2009-07-24 08:03:48.
07/24/2009 08:24:51 AM · #18
Yeah, spam has taken on a whole new strange character lately. I thought giant penis pills were the apex evolution of spam because it stalled out at that point for a long while. Little did I know it would develop relevancy to a topic.
Imagine Skynet crossed with spam.
::chills::
07/24/2009 08:38:24 AM · #19

I think a lot of creativity is the difference between "thinking" and "feeling". Look at a photograph and the left brain is "thinking" about what lights, camera, lens, background was used to make the image. The right brain is "feeling" the image - does it make you feel happy, relaxed, excited, etc.

Total creativity then would be a good mix of the two; the ability to think AND feel a "scene" and create an image.

When I was in art school, they made us use the book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" to learn to use our right brain more effectively.

Then again, I could be completely wrong, and the herbal remedy could provide the best creative magic around; who knows.

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