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03/22/2004 09:00:08 AM · #1
Hi all, I got many comments on this

portrait entry of mine.
Many asked me how did I do it so here it is.
The original shot:

Then I croped it, did a bit of spot editing to whiten the eyes and enhance the mouth color a bit, wich are the only small things I did that can even qualify as "advanced editing". The thing I did to it that resulted in those unusual colors, could be put easily under basic editing.
After I cropped it I duplicated the chanel and played heavily adjusted the curves and then alot of gaussian blur until it looked something like this.

I reduced the opacity of this to 55%, fill to 85% and blending mode 'Lighten'. This is all I did that made all the difference.
Here is everything I did with that channel turned off.

You can see it's not much different from the original.

I thank you all for all your comments, they really made me feel like I did something here even if I didn't win. I didn't expect to win, even if some of you did and I thank you for that. I knew I will be the target of the purists with this. I probably expected to do a bit better I admit, but this is a fair contest (isn't it?) and people expressed theyr votes.

Message edited by author 2004-05-03 20:11:09.
03/22/2004 09:13:09 AM · #2
thanks so much for posting the how-to! very interesting effect and i really loved the portrait.
03/22/2004 09:15:52 AM · #3
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:


You can see it's not much different from the original.


IMHO This is a MUCH better shot than you submitted. As submitted you recieved a 3 from me for being over processed.
03/22/2004 09:42:38 AM · #4
I liked your entry and gave it a 6 or 7, but I like this one better. This one is more soothing so I can concentrate on the model. I feel the other one had too many colors so I was thinking about the technique more than enjoying looking at the person. posted on the picture also.
03/22/2004 09:54:50 AM · #5
This was one of the best shots in this challenge! I gave it a 9. Very original and very different than what is typical here, and I imagine that's why it finished so much lower than it deserved.

Reminds me of some of Chip Simons' portraits with multiple colored flashes. This is more ethereal though, probably due to the GB.

I would have given the alternate or the other version a 4 or 5.
03/22/2004 11:04:26 AM · #6
Thanks for the Chip Simons link, I really love his work. About my submission I guess not everyone sees it the same and that's normal, I expected it, I did not submit the one without the colors effect because I thought the other one is different than the milions of portraits existing already all around the world. I knew some would love it some would hate it. I got a few comments saying "her eyes are freaky" or "too much editing" or "too digital art for me" or such. Well everyone is free to like or dislike something. I just try my best all the time to step out of the "perfect snapshot" box and since I'm not really a photographer to me the artistic aspect of something is more important than tehnical issues. Also more than I am a photographer I studied painting, I'm a painting teacher even if I don't practice, and when I started editing it, I didn't have this in mind I could say I made it by mistake while playing with it, I thought is fun and different and I decided to submit it. As a painting teacher I must say some may use this as a good complementary colors lesson even if that's not what I intendetd it to be.
But hey I recived 49 comments during the challenge. That means something. I think a shot is really bad if people overlooks it and have no opinions whatsoever. The fact that so many of you commented it good or bad, it doesn't matter, prooves to me that I did something here, atleast I managed to get many peoples attention. And isn't that what "visual arts" are all about? That's why I really am satisfied with my acomplishment even if it scored so bad. At the end if a shot manages to get people's attention is what makes it good not ribbons or such.

As I said everyone sees things different I only gave 2 10's and they both didn't do so good. Again I find these to to be mooving me in a way other's can't regardless of how tehnicaly perfect they were executed.

I loved the light in this one and the natural pose of the child.

The eyes of this little cutie actualy speak.

Message edited by author 2004-03-22 11:22:10.
03/22/2004 11:42:04 AM · #7
I gave your entry an 8. (hope the model did not take my comment personally.) This is really cool and thanks for the how to. Even though the processes were basic editing, it is still very advanced if you ask me. Nice work!
By the way, THANK YOU for the 10! Much appreciated. While I am here thanks to all the commentors this week in Portrait. Looks like people did a lot of it.

By the way, I HAD to soften and fiddle with the colors for them to appear on the web correctly. My original is much sharper (but I am going to soften the face more) and prints awesome!

Your model has some great and ORIGINAL head shots now.

again good job.
03/22/2004 11:53:39 AM · #8
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

Then I croped it, did a bit of spot editing to whiten the eyes and enhance the mouth color a bit, wich are the only small things I did that can even qualify as "advanced editing". The thing I did to it that resulted in those unusual colors, could be put easily under basic editing.

Not quite true; under the Basic Editing rules, only adjustment layers (layers that allow you to adjust Hue/Saturation, Brightness/Contrast, etc. without applying them directly to the picture so they can be adjusted later, hence their name) are permitted and only in the "Normal" blending mode. Duplicating your photo onto another layer is definitely forbidden under the Basic Editing rules. Just wanted to make sure somebody didn't get the wrong idea and attempt something similar in a Basic Editing challenge.

(And as indicated by my comment, I was one of the ones who thought your entry was too much "digital art". No doubt it is a great photo and an interesting technique, but to me, your entry was more about Photoshop than about photography.)
03/22/2004 12:08:56 PM · #9
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

The eyes of this little cutie actualy speak.

Thank you for your ten.
I gave you a 7. I think your entry should have done much better.
I liked the composition, the model, the lighting ... but I did not liked to much the yellow on her face. Distracted me and fadded away the beauty of the model.
By the way she is very beautiful.
Sarut mana drei!
03/22/2004 12:23:48 PM · #10
Cristi

Couldn't believe this came in the position it did. One of my favourites and thought this would have been top five at least. IMO the type of challenge allowed full editing so you're perfectly ok to do the level of post processing you did. The image at the end of the day is what counts and not how you got there. Oh well, what do I know. Also, I prefer the image that you entered and not the second one (detail round her left eye distracting).
I'm new to dpchallenge and am finding the voting quite suprising, on my own efforts I got some votes at 10 and some at 2, can't figure the width of the spread.
Keep up the good work, from the amount of comments you got I would say a lot were impressed with it even if it didn't reflect in the final placings.

Steve
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