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05/14/2008 06:12:49 PM · #1 |
//www.sportsvideosolutions.net/
he told me he spent "about a grand"
he hadfingerprint webworks make the website
im almst positive he could have gotten much better for $1000
edit to fix link
Message edited by author 2008-05-14 18:16:15. |
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05/14/2008 06:14:11 PM · #2 |
I would say so, It doesn't exist.
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05/14/2008 06:14:27 PM · #3 |
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05/14/2008 06:16:26 PM · #4 |
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05/14/2008 06:22:54 PM · #5 |
My question would be, Did he know what he was ordering when he bought it?
I would say yes he was ripped off. I don't know how much space he has, how much bandwidth he has, how much CS he gets or anything so it really depends but the website looks like shit and I would have them pull the site down or rebuild it.
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05/14/2008 06:25:08 PM · #6 |
i mean dont want to be a d!(k about it and flat out tell him but...i mean its terrible
EDIT:censorship rules the world
Message edited by author 2008-05-14 18:25:53. |
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05/14/2008 06:25:14 PM · #7 |
| Yep, a 10 year old kid could have done a website better than that. Poor design, very static. he shouldnt have charged him even more than 100 bucks for that. |
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05/14/2008 06:27:35 PM · #8 |
| I think I've seen a template that liiks just like that somewhere... I guess it sort of depends on what the expectation was when he paid, but I'm not overly impressed with the site. |
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05/14/2008 06:29:50 PM · #9 |
| the first thing that grabs me right off the bat is the fact that the main header font looks all pixelated, to me that is unforgivable in this day and age! |
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05/14/2008 06:34:26 PM · #10 |
Looks like a decent average sober site to me, but not something worth 1000.
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05/14/2008 07:13:14 PM · #11 |
| Header is not even centered and the font suffers from major jagged edges. The sub titles have a background to them that doesn't even match the site's colour theme. This is a 200 dollar job, at the most. Yes, he got ripped off. |
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05/14/2008 07:35:59 PM · #12 |
Well dunno.... not enough info really..... What is really there? Is the content generated from a database that he has an admin system to maintain? What other stuff is there that is not obvious to visitors? Is it integrated with other tools the guy uses? Sure there are some obvious issues that some people would notice but there are FAR worse ones out there..... just a sad fact; not really trying to defend whoever did it.
Hey... It's just a web-site that anyone can code so not worth $1K.... it's not like taking a snap shot or anything :-)
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05/14/2008 07:39:40 PM · #13 |
That's pretty crap for $1000.
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05/14/2008 07:40:00 PM · #14 |
it's a pretty basic site. The pictures suck and it doesn't really explain too much.
Overall, with a little sprucing up, some better graphics and more info it could be worthwhile but for $1000 I would expect a LOT better.
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05/14/2008 07:58:14 PM · #15 |
If I had paid "about a grand" for that, they'd be redoing it or refunding my money.
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05/14/2008 07:59:08 PM · #16 |
Yeah, I could have done 10x the job for half the money. Pluss, make sure he had good bandwidth and hosting for the year. So yeah I would have to say he well... didn't do his research.
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05/14/2008 08:08:05 PM · #17 |
as a website designer - I'm wondering if he is paying for the server-space/web-domain name/ and more bandwith
approx 2 years worth would run somewhere around five or six hundred $ without design -- then adding design would go up from there... luckily as a designer myself I make sure that the person pays for the domain-space/name before I charge them for my design fees ;) but a lot of edits run the price +++ $$ sadly a lot of people don't sit down with the designer and draw up templates of what they expect/want or show sites similar to what they like/want so the designer is at times left at a loss (that is not the kind of work I would want on my personal resume tho... unfortunatly it seems like the designer just tossed together whatever they were given/had) is the designer still in contract for more updates/edits? if so he could sit down with the designer and request a redesign/adjustment of the site (ie smoother graphics/ images that have better contrast/photo quality (download time is extremely important but quality of viewing is too)
in all honesty... I wouldn't want someone with a quickly thrown together site doing my video-business (as someone in the industry/design wise the business owner should be able to dictate what kind of image he is looking to get out there....)
goodluck 2 your friend tho...
Message edited by author 2008-05-14 20:19:32. |
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05/14/2008 08:21:38 PM · #18 |
the videos should be targeted to load into a frame in the windows themselves (its rather easy to do in any design software)... just one of a million suggestions that come to mind when looking at that site... :(
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05/14/2008 08:22:57 PM · #19 |
| I would be stopping payment on my check if that was my site. As stated somewhere above, the pixelated graphics is inexcusable. It does look like a fairly standard template that has not been modified all that much. It certainly does not look professional nor does it make the company it is there for look professional. Just my opinion. But if I was searching for services of that nature and saw that site I would move right along to the next one in the Google search. |
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05/14/2008 08:30:35 PM · #20 |
| Actually, I think he got what he paid for. Professional web design is not cheap. He paid very little, and the results seem to reflect that. |
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05/14/2008 08:38:49 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Love6:
as a website designer - I'm wondering if he is paying for the server-space/web-domain name/ and more bandwith approx 2 years worth would run somewhere around five or six hundred $ without design -- then adding design would go up from there... |
I was thinking the same thing.
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05/14/2008 09:00:58 PM · #22 |
| yeah 1000 is wayyy too much for that site. |
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05/14/2008 09:30:28 PM · #23 |
| Wow...i design sites as a hobby and i wouldn't have charged $1000 for that in good faith...unless there are things included that were mentioned before such as hosting, bandwidth, domains, and other stuff. If not, then it's safe to say he could have gotten more for less. |
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05/14/2008 11:50:38 PM · #24 |
Yeah I kind of think the whole story is needed for understanding the outcome...
IE: does the website owner have their own logo or was it expected to be created? and how much time did the owner put in with the designer on decisions etc... time constraints involved? experience of the designer (is this the designers 1st site?) lots of factors... sites can be $$+ just hosting and owning your own domain name (sometimes a domain-name is already taken and you have to 'buy' it from the previous owner and that can be $$$$$$ if its an easy to remember kind of name... -registering the domain-name each year can get $ if you don't own it yourself so sometimes buying it for a few years ahead of time is a + and... well there are a ton of factors taht can run into lots of $ fast or if done the less expensive way first can result in needing to 'upgrade as you go' so that the final $ tag isn't really known until a year into the site being up etc... is the designer still on the payroll and what are the contract agreements/etc...
I'll be desiging a site soon for informational purposes and look to make around 2,000 or less but at least 20$ an hr.. creating a logo as well; and i'm not paying out of pocket for any of the costs of server space/domain-name registration (always good to get that out there upfront) but I'll also have to do a lot of 'redesign' in the beginning since I know the manager of the program personally and they know my work so... they'll squeeze the best they possibly can out of me (and since they're friends/family i'll darn well put in some free time on the side i'm sure) it'll be an ongoing kind of design where i'll add/remove/update and manage the email/troubleshoot link issues if they occurr (which they shouldn't!!!) and basically be on hand when needed... i'll have a site designed with and without frames for all browsers not that many people these days have browsers that are incompatable with frames but it -does- happen (some people are just not computer savvy) and the design will be based upon the fact that a lot of the visitors are -not- computer savvy and will need basically point and click simplicity for navigation so nothing 'fancy' but still managing to make it look -nice- and presentable, etc...
i'm rather glad that the family member thought of me for the job because as a single mom i'm extremely poor and can majorly use the $ :) and have a lottt of time to do the design ;) as well as ability to go and take some photography shots ;) to decorate up the site a bit :) rather comes in handy- my love of art/photography!!! :)
already i've asked if there are any sites that are comparable to the desired outcome-and am awaiting the result of my question- because from -there- its easy to know what the client desires and to branch off and do -better- than what they expect... when working blindly and without guidance or any aid/help whatsoever it can be a very time-consuming nightmare to work ona site (especially when someone doesn't tell you -anything- and barely supplies any information or links and basically wants you to run/know their business ins and outs-- as a designer I'm not a writer; I won't write someone's bio etc- they need to supply that- I'l put Lorem ipsum until they figure out what they want if they -need- to see text on the page otherwise; I write "work in progress" or "under construction, please check back soon" ;) :-D
I used to be a major design nerd but have since become quite rusty in it-- hopefully this large project will get me back on my feet in the field and into making $ again ;) :-D
an owner of a site/business should always do a little homework for themselves, or ask for price/quality comparisons of webservers/hosting and domain-name registration places etc... (IE: will it be a pain to keep your domain-name next year if you register it through said company or should you register it yourself instead of having to worry that if someone doesn't update it on time you'll loose your domain-name to someone else and it will be auctioned off to the highest bidder etc...) ;) there is a lot to think about & do and sometimes people have all of it on their computers and sometimes they don't and it all needs to be created from scratch- did the designer of that site write all the scripts or use a program etc...
well i'm falling half asleep-into unconsciousness because i'm stressed RL wise (my 18month old daughter seems to have a sist of some kind and i need to get it checked first thing AM and am loosing sleep while worrying over it so i'm not really probably thinking/clearly or making much sense at this point-so i'm going to stop typing in the forum and go to bed and hope that the DR just says "no worries everything is fine" tomorrow) really wish your friend luck with his/her website and that it all washes thru in a positive way and whatnot-
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05/15/2008 12:11:43 AM · #25 |
If someone where to show that to me or sketch it up in photoshop I could do it in my sleep. As tot he comments about the server. A shared server with 250 GB of space 2 Terabytes of transfer per month, 5000 email accounts would run around 20 plus tax a month with the domain costing 6 a year. 1 and 1 was a great host when I was working on sites.
On the flip side fortunecity would design and host it for less than a grand with 500 being the design fee. As a host they are a rip. As designers their adequate for the money. It does help to have friends in the business. This site is terribly simple. A dynamic site would warrant a small fortune from some people. I have basic PHP and MySQL skills they get me by but not enough to make money off of.
A rip quite possibly, a high school student could have cut him a break though. |
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