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05/12/2008 11:06:13 PM · #76 |
The thing that I really dislike about this challenge is that the only tie to the challenge is the title. Your picture can be of anything and so long as you dream up a title that meets the challenge criteria it fits. That's it. Its a Free Study. There is no theme for this challenge. Take the titles off of every image and say: What's this challenge about? Its a free study.
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05/12/2008 11:07:01 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by Love6:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Unless it meets the challenge, it has not earned the right to even be graded on the 1-10 scale. If it meets the challenge, then the 1=Bad, 10=Great works. |
The official rules say nothing of the sort so I'm guessing you're just going by whatever rules you made up? |
Nope. It's called logic and reason. That is the spirit of the rules. Otherwise, there should not be any challenge topic ever. Pretty obvious. |
each individual interperts logic and reason diffrently tho - my logic follows the rules of voting outline- and I vote on the PHOTOGRAPH and then 'adjust' my score based on topic -after- I vote on the _PHOTOGRAPH_ (this is a digital photograph challenge place afterall) as someone said DNMC is not a reason for DQ = in essence giving 1's and 2's out to what you 'interpert' as a DNMC (but is otherwise a -great- image) is attempting to DQ the image/ is the image a BAD image of what it is of? if not- then vote on the image itself and then 'adjust' accordingly 1=BAD 10=GOOD
that is the -scale-
logically a 1=a BAD IMAGE A BAD PHOTOGRAPH A HORRIBLE UNWORTHY TO BE DISPLAYED IN A DARK CLOSET would be MY interpertation- of the 'score' I have yet to give out a 1 or 2 or 3 for that matter- it would have to be -really- bad for me to do that. |
Pay attention... a DNMC is not a DQ. DQ means NO VOTES COUNT. DNMC means each voter can do whatever they want. You choose to reward people who cannot follow the rules, so be it. Others wisely choose not to. That's what allows us each to vote.
No one, not me anyway, is campaigning to make you or anyone else vote any given way. Vote how you see fit and if that means rewarding great photos that are irrelevant, bully for you. But I'll do what makes the most sense.
Here's a little gold star for you just showing up for class. Feel special, 'k?
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05/12/2008 11:07:29 PM · #78 |
If we weren't allowed to give DNMC's a low score there would be no point to assigning each challenge a topic. People could just shoot whatever they wanted and as long as it was good they'd get a good score. That's what freestudies are for. If that was the case in every challenge it would defeat the point of this site. The point, for me anyway, is to take a topic and then challenge myself to think outside the box to create something that fits that topic. If I don't succeed then I shouldn't be scored high just for trying. I don't learn anything that way. I score DNMC's low even if it's a good shot. To me, if they didn't meet the challenge topic then they've failed the challenge. If it's blatently off topic, like an outdoor shot in a studio challenge then it gets a one. If it's an obvious shoehorn but still sort of meets the challenge I'll score it higher but still not higher than a 5.
Message edited by author 2008-05-12 23:09:09. |
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05/12/2008 11:07:50 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by Citadel:
The thing that I really dislike about this challenge is that the only tie to the challenge is the title. Your picture can be of anything and so long as you dream up a title that meets the challenge criteria it fits. That's it. Its a Free Study. There is no theme for this challenge. Take the titles off of every image and say: What's this challenge about? Its a free study. |
exactly! :) so none of the images should have 1's :)
*i'm still glad I didn't enter this challenge* |
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05/12/2008 11:08:07 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by Citadel:
The thing that I really dislike about this challenge is that the only tie to the challenge is the title. Your picture can be of anything and so long as you dream up a title that meets the challenge criteria it fits. That's it. Its a Free Study. There is no theme for this challenge. Take the titles off of every image and say: What's this challenge about? Its a free study. |
Exactly!
It's a no brainer then to come up with a title to describe your quasi-Free Study photo and have that title fit the challenge criteria. Yet some still did not.
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05/12/2008 11:09:04 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by Love6:
Originally posted by Citadel:
The thing that I really dislike about this challenge is that the only tie to the challenge is the title. Your picture can be of anything and so long as you dream up a title that meets the challenge criteria it fits. That's it. Its a Free Study. There is no theme for this challenge. Take the titles off of every image and say: What's this challenge about? Its a free study. |
exactly! :) so none of the images should have 1's :)
*i'm still glad I didn't enter this challenge* |
Except of course that ones that did not come up with the correct title per the challenge theme.
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05/12/2008 11:09:37 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by Wenders11:
If we weren't allowed to give DNMC's a low score there would be no point to assigning each challenge a topic. People could just shoot whatever they wanted and as long as it was good they'd get a good score. That's what freestudies are for. If that was the case in every challenge it would defeat the point of this site. The point, for me anyway, is to take a topic and then challenge myself to think outside the box to create something that fits that topic. If I don't succeed then I shouldn't be scored high just for trying. I don't learn anything that way. I score DNMC's low even if it's a good shot. To me, if they didn't meet the challenge topic then they've failed the challenge. If it's blatently off topic, like an outdoor shot in a studio challenge then it gets a one. If it's an obvious shoehorn but still sort of meets the challenge I'll score it higher but still not higher than a 5. |
Wisely put! Hopefully most are like you.
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05/12/2008 11:11:25 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Love6:
Originally posted by Citadel:
The thing that I really dislike about this challenge is that the only tie to the challenge is the title. Your picture can be of anything and so long as you dream up a title that meets the challenge criteria it fits. That's it. Its a Free Study. There is no theme for this challenge. Take the titles off of every image and say: What's this challenge about? Its a free study. |
exactly! :) so none of the images should have 1's :)
*i'm still glad I didn't enter this challenge* |
Except of course that ones that did not come up with the correct title per the challenge theme. |
i.e My entry. :) |
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05/12/2008 11:19:18 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by Wenders11:
If we weren't allowed to give DNMC's a low score there would be no point to assigning each challenge a topic. People could just shoot whatever they wanted and as long as it was good they'd get a good score. That's what freestudies are for. If that was the case in every challenge it would defeat the point of this site. The point, for me anyway, is to take a topic and then challenge myself to think outside the box to create something that fits that topic. If I don't succeed then I shouldn't be scored high just for trying. I don't learn anything that way. I score DNMC's low even if it's a good shot. To me, if they didn't meet the challenge topic then they've failed the challenge. If it's blatently off topic, like an outdoor shot in a studio challenge then it gets a one. If it's an obvious shoehorn but still sort of meets the challenge I'll score it higher but still not higher than a 5. |
a low score is one thing but a 1 for an other wise 10 image? I don't disagree with around a 5ish based on not fitting description/but a -10 is extreme IMO ; may as well just be in the DQ catagory (which I don't understand why its not... if it DNMC at all) a shoe-horn is a bit diffrent interpertation is open for all that's the whole outside of the box thinking that I enjoy from time to time :-D |
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05/12/2008 11:20:58 PM · #85 |
Well my image meets my title and my title meets the challenge so why am I at a 5.5? Oh and my image is really good????
who is giving out low scores for good pictures?
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05/12/2008 11:23:38 PM · #86 |
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
Well my image meets my title and my title meets the challenge so why am I at a 5.5? Oh and my image is really good????
who is giving out low scores for good pictures? |
anyone who thinks your title doesn't meet the challenge *LOL* not to worry I'm giving out high scores (maybe that'll counter the lower ones?) :-D geesh I only saw like 2 shots worthy of a 5 in this challenge... everything else was above and beyond- the colors are amazing, the shapes textures... its verymuch like a free-study with rather creative titles *L* :)
Message edited by author 2008-05-12 23:24:31. |
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05/12/2008 11:26:07 PM · #87 |
I gave out 37 10's already :-P
nothing below a 5 and only two 5's
there are a LOT of shots in here I'll be adding as faves... i love the colors/effects of some of them they're -breath-taking-
Message edited by author 2008-05-12 23:27:19. |
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05/12/2008 11:27:44 PM · #88 |
Originally posted by Love6:
I gave out 37 10's already :-P
nothing below a 5 and only two 5's |
Yow! Even without the necessary DNMC 1s, there are many 3s and 4s this go round.
Well, that's why we all get to vote.
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05/12/2008 11:34:44 PM · #89 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Love6:
I gave out 37 10's already :-P
nothing below a 5 and only two 5's |
Yow! Even without the necessary DNMC 1s, there are many 3s and 4s this go round.
Well, that's why we all get to vote. |
wow- I can't imagine which ones you're voting as 3's and 4's? and what you are basing it on? I see approx 10 or 15 6's otherwise a lot of 7's 8's and 9's for creativity/texture/colors/shapes/light and tonal range/ sharpness / framing (or not) / photographers vantagepoint *actually seeing the image as the photographer saw it or as I might interpert the photographer to have seen it and try to visualize what they were looking for or at when they took the image and then cropped it for the challenge) I have yet to see a single image worthy of a 4 or below in this challenge... I'm glad I took the time to vote. |
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05/12/2008 11:36:40 PM · #90 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Unless it meets the challenge, it has not earned the right to even be graded on the 1-10 scale. If it meets the challenge, then the 1=Bad, 10=Great works. |
The official rules say nothing of the sort so I'm guessing you're just going by whatever rules you made up? |
Nope. It's called logic and reason. That is the spirit of the rules. Otherwise, there should not be any challenge topic ever. Pretty obvious. |
Thanks for proving my point.
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05/12/2008 11:42:59 PM · #91 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Unless it meets the challenge, it has not earned the right to even be graded on the 1-10 scale. If it meets the challenge, then the 1=Bad, 10=Great works. |
The official rules say nothing of the sort so I'm guessing you're just going by whatever rules you made up? |
Nope. It's called logic and reason. That is the spirit of the rules. Otherwise, there should not be any challenge topic ever. Pretty obvious. |
Thanks for proving my point. |
*LOL* -well I wish I could give my 10's an 11 OH yeah I do have my great little love award...but damn... i already commented on all of them... i'd have to go back and edit my comments......... :( *i'll have to do my 'post challenge comment awards* :) *heh* anyway it'll be interesting to see where my 10's place later... hope they kickbutt and get a lot of 8's and 9's! |
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05/13/2008 12:11:42 AM · #92 |
Originally posted by Citadel:
The thing that I really dislike about this challenge is that the only tie to the challenge is the title. Your picture can be of anything and so long as you dream up a title that meets the challenge criteria it fits. That's it. Its a Free Study. There is no theme for this challenge. Take the titles off of every image and say: What's this challenge about? Its a free study. |
To play devil's advocate, didn't you enter a non-game photo in the Games challenge? I see a model dressed in some kind of uniform in a studio like enviroment but I don't see an actual game being shown. As a hockey fan, I do recognize the uniform and thus I make the connection. However, had I not been a fan or knew anything about the sport I may have had to rely on your title and give you the benefit of the doubt.
Message edited by author 2008-05-13 00:27:18.
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05/13/2008 12:34:41 AM · #93 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Unless it meets the challenge, it has not earned the right to even be graded on the 1-10 scale. If it meets the challenge, then the 1=Bad, 10=Great works. |
The official rules say nothing of the sort so I'm guessing you're just going by whatever rules you made up? |
Nope. It's called logic and reason. That is the spirit of the rules. Otherwise, there should not be any challenge topic ever. Pretty obvious. |
Thanks for proving my point. |
And you for proving mine. Sheesh.
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05/13/2008 12:35:19 AM · #94 |
Originally posted by Love6:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Love6:
I gave out 37 10's already :-P
nothing below a 5 and only two 5's |
Yow! Even without the necessary DNMC 1s, there are many 3s and 4s this go round.
Well, that's why we all get to vote. |
wow- I can't imagine which ones you're voting as 3's and 4's? and what you are basing it on? I see approx 10 or 15 6's otherwise a lot of 7's 8's and 9's for creativity/texture/colors/shapes/light and tonal range/ sharpness / framing (or not) / photographers vantagepoint *actually seeing the image as the photographer saw it or as I might interpert the photographer to have seen it and try to visualize what they were looking for or at when they took the image and then cropped it for the challenge) I have yet to see a single image worthy of a 4 or below in this challenge... I'm glad I took the time to vote. |
I am basing it on the quality of the capture and the distance from being just a snapshot.
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05/13/2008 01:44:11 AM · #95 |
Votes: 75
Views: 125
Avg Vote: 5.3067
Comments: 12 |
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05/13/2008 05:22:13 AM · #96 |
Votes: 78
Views: 133
Avg Vote: 6.0000
Comments: 4
Favorites: 1
My score has dropped a bit but I did pick up a favorite! |
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05/13/2008 08:13:17 AM · #97 |
Votes: 76
Views: 110
Avg Vote: 5.6579
Comments: 2
Try Upping Votes |
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05/13/2008 11:23:25 AM · #98 |
Originally posted by jonfrommk:
Votes: 76
Views: 110
Avg Vote: 5.6579
Comments: 2
Try Upping Votes |
were your comments at least nice? :) |
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05/13/2008 11:31:30 AM · #99 |
| I upped some of my 9's :P because on another look they're very lovely... I'm still in awe over the colors and shapes (I keep going back to look at them again and again!) |
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05/13/2008 11:32:43 AM · #100 |
Stats deleted to prevent too many panic attacks.
Message edited by author 2008-05-13 15:03:27.
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