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05/12/2008 05:26:31 PM · #51
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05/12/2008 05:33:44 PM · #52
Originally posted by wehrmacher:

Thanks for your scoring insight. I think I tend to score a bit high as I think so many of the shots are better than mine, and I would like to think of mine as average. I guess one should keep all thing in moderation, including humility. :-)


A humble-geek-photographer! :) Refreshing! But you are new here. :) I think some of your shots are beautiful and you have a good eye!

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I am doing much better in this one than I have lately. Feels good!

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05/12/2008 05:42:19 PM · #53
Originally posted by Love6:


You have given an average score of 8.0718.

comments to come......


Wow! You are really sharing the Love! :)

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05/12/2008 06:01:15 PM · #54
So, are you suggesting that with time I will become less geeky, less humble and less a photographer? LOL

Thanks for your kind works about my portfolio. If one takes enough pictures, some will be good just by accident. Fear not, I am not feeling sorry for myself or fishing for compliments. I am really enjoying photography, regardless of the outcome, and this site. I wish I had found it earlier. I look forward to getting to know some of the members better over time.

Bill

Originally posted by robinssong:

Originally posted by wehrmacher:

Thanks for your scoring insight. I think I tend to score a bit high as I think so many of the shots are better than mine, and I would like to think of mine as average. I guess one should keep all thing in moderation, including humility. :-)


A humble-geek-photographer! :) Refreshing! But you are new here. :) I think some of your shots are beautiful and you have a good eye!

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I am doing much better in this one than I have lately. Feels good!

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05/12/2008 06:14:34 PM · #55
I can't wait until May 18th. Until then I will be haunted by four letters: DNMC :(
05/12/2008 07:04:59 PM · #56
Quick someone call the police I'm Being ROBBED!!!!!!!!!

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05/12/2008 07:14:15 PM · #57
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05/12/2008 09:22:52 PM · #58
here is something I think a lot of people forget

You may not:
* give an entry a lower score because you believe it violates the Challenge Rules.

yet people do it anyway.

You SHOULD:
rate entries on a scale of 1 to 10. A score of 1 is a “bad” photo, and a score of 10 is a “good” photo

DNMC doesn't mean its a BAD photo does it? can a photo be stunning awe-striking and amazing ? if it DNMC reccomend it for a DQ -but vote on the -image- it is a -photography- site the light/shapes/textures/creativity should be paramount right?

that's my interpertation at least- heck maybe i'm wrong and this is really a popularity contest instead? :) where do I sign up for a crown and sash so I can be prom-queen !? :)

05/12/2008 09:30:34 PM · #59
You cannot get a DQ for not meeting the challenge description. You can only get a DQ for violating the Challenge Rules.

Regarding voting low on a 'great photo'. If the photo does not meet the challenge description, how can it be a good photo for the challenge? For example, if I take a fantastic landscape of Yosemite but the challenge is Studio portrait, how can I expect to get a good score?

Originally posted by Love6:

here is something I think a lot of people forget

You may not:
* give an entry a lower score because you believe it violates the Challenge Rules.

yet people do it anyway.

You SHOULD:
rate entries on a scale of 1 to 10. A score of 1 is a “bad” photo, and a score of 10 is a “good” photo

DNMC doesn't mean its a BAD photo does it? can a photo be stunning awe-striking and amazing ? if it DNMC reccomend it for a DQ -but vote on the -image- it is a -photography- site the light/shapes/textures/creativity should be paramount right?

that's my interpertation at least- heck maybe i'm wrong and this is really a popularity contest instead? :) where do I sign up for a crown and sash so I can be prom-queen !? :)


Message edited by author 2008-05-12 21:36:58.
05/12/2008 09:43:16 PM · #60
Any of these rules may be overridden by the “Extra Rules” section of the Challenge Details.

details would be description right? -so if the image doesn't meet the description/challenge- wouldn't that mean it doesn't meet the rules/challenge and would be a DQ?

if your photo is great-and people score it great- and you get DQ'ed for not meeting the challenge description/rules of the challenge (ie: bikes and you take a photo of a lamp but its a great lamp shot and you get a 10 up until a DQ for not submitting a photo of a lamp) but regardless an image should be voted on based on the image itself- a BAD image should get a BAD score but a great image should get a great score (the site cousil should decide if it is a DQ or DNMC shouldn't they!?) i'd think one could reccomend it for a DQ or whatnot-but if its not removed shouldn't one go about scoring the image based on the -image- and if it is good or bad ? (the age old question again right?)

Originally posted by bassbone:

You cannot get a DQ for not meeting the challenge description. You can only get a DQ for violating the Challenge Rules.

Regarding voting low on a 'great photo'. If the photo does not meet the challenge description, how can it be a good photo for the challenge? For example, if I take a fantastic landscape of Yosemite but the challenge is Studio portrait, how can I expect to get a good score?

Originally posted by Love6:

here is something I think a lot of people forget

You may not:
* give an entry a lower score because you believe it violates the Challenge Rules.

yet people do it anyway.

You SHOULD:
rate entries on a scale of 1 to 10. A score of 1 is a “bad” photo, and a score of 10 is a “good” photo

DNMC doesn't mean its a BAD photo does it? can a photo be stunning awe-striking and amazing ? if it DNMC reccomend it for a DQ -but vote on the -image- it is a -photography- site the light/shapes/textures/creativity should be paramount right?

that's my interpertation at least- heck maybe i'm wrong and this is really a popularity contest instead? :) where do I sign up for a crown and sash so I can be prom-queen !? :)
05/12/2008 09:48:43 PM · #61
Originally posted by Love6:

here is something I think a lot of people forget

You may not:
* give an entry a lower score because you believe it violates the Challenge Rules.

yet people do it anyway.

You SHOULD:
rate entries on a scale of 1 to 10. A score of 1 is a “bad” photo, and a score of 10 is a “good” photo

DNMC doesn't mean its a BAD photo does it? can a photo be stunning awe-striking and amazing ? if it DNMC reccomend it for a DQ -but vote on the -image- it is a -photography- site the light/shapes/textures/creativity should be paramount right?

that's my interpertation at least- heck maybe i'm wrong and this is really a popularity contest instead? :) where do I sign up for a crown and sash so I can be prom-queen !? :)


DNMC is not the same as violating the challenge rules.

But the paramount thing is to take a GREAT PHOTO that MEETS THE CHALLENGE. Unless it meets the challenge, it has not earned the right to even be graded on the 1-10 scale. If it meets the challenge, then the 1=Bad, 10=Great works.
05/12/2008 09:59:12 PM · #62
so why is DNMC not DQable would be my question? if the main purpose is to meet the challenge?

05/12/2008 10:01:10 PM · #63
Originally posted by Love6:

so why is DNMC not DQable would be my question? if the main purpose is to meet the challenge?


That would be for the Site Council. I think they are leaving that open to subjective interpretation. But in the case of this challenge, it's objective -- not subjective. It meets or it does not.

I think they expect common sense, like the criteria I and other have outlined, to take care of those images.
05/12/2008 10:09:31 PM · #64
High 6s for me on this one. Some interesting comments too (thanks to the commenters). Hope it hangs on through the end. I've been up & down today, but still hanging around 6.8.
05/12/2008 10:13:32 PM · #65
Originally posted by Love6:

here is something I think a lot of people forget

You may not:
* give an entry a lower score because you believe it violates the Challenge Rules.

yet people do it anyway.

You SHOULD:
rate entries on a scale of 1 to 10. A score of 1 is a “bad” photo, and a score of 10 is a “good” photo

DNMC doesn't mean its a BAD photo does it? can a photo be stunning awe-striking and amazing ? if it DNMC reccomend it for a DQ -but vote on the -image- it is a -photography- site the light/shapes/textures/creativity should be paramount right?

that's my interpertation at least- heck maybe i'm wrong and this is really a popularity contest instead? :) where do I sign up for a crown and sash so I can be prom-queen !? :)


In the Voting Guidelines;

You should:
-consider the challenge topic when voting, and adjust your score accordingly.


05/12/2008 10:37:20 PM · #66
well as an out of the box thinker and someone who appreciates a great image regardless of if its posted as a portrait in a landscape 'challenge' I'll score fairly on the merits of the photograph itself (sure they may loose a point or two for not 'meeting a challenge' but i'm not going to flat out bomb the image with a 1 and just leave a DNMC comment- the image should count for SOMETHING - IMO - I gave out a lot of 10's and 9's in this challenge because the photography was just -amazing- it would be really sad to see some of those images getting bombed with 1's -soly- because of the title choice - they're breath taking images- some people don't have an easy time comming up with titles; does that make the PHOTOGRAPH bad?

Make an image to fit a three-word title where the three words begin with consecutive letters of the alphabet. Have fun /// three words begin with consecutive letters of the alphabet does that mean that the WORDS have to be consecutive? (I don't interpert it that way- I interpert it as three words beginning with consecutive letters of the ALPHABET IE BCA BAD COULD ADD -or CAB = Can A Bug...? they're consecutive letters of the alphabet, the three words start with them. = so that would meet the challenge...heh maybe I should have entered this challenge...darn now I wish I had
05/12/2008 10:47:53 PM · #67
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Unless it meets the challenge, it has not earned the right to even be graded on the 1-10 scale. If it meets the challenge, then the 1=Bad, 10=Great works.


The official rules say nothing of the sort so I'm guessing you're just going by whatever rules you made up?

Message edited by author 2008-05-12 22:49:11.
05/12/2008 10:51:43 PM · #68
Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Unless it meets the challenge, it has not earned the right to even be graded on the 1-10 scale. If it meets the challenge, then the 1=Bad, 10=Great works.


The official rules say nothing of the sort


.... :-D ....

Message edited by author 2008-05-12 22:52:30.
05/12/2008 10:53:58 PM · #69
Originally posted by Love6:

well as an out of the box thinker and someone who appreciates a great image regardless of if its posted as a portrait in a landscape 'challenge' I'll score fairly on the merits of the photograph itself (sure they may loose a point or two for not 'meeting a challenge' but i'm not going to flat out bomb the image with a 1 and just leave a DNMC comment- the image should count for SOMETHING - IMO - I gave out a lot of 10's and 9's in this challenge because the photography was just -amazing- it would be really sad to see some of those images getting bombed with 1's -soly- because of the title choice - they're breath taking images- some people don't have an easy time comming up with titles; does that make the PHOTOGRAPH bad?

Make an image to fit a three-word title where the three words begin with consecutive letters of the alphabet. Have fun /// three words begin with consecutive letters of the alphabet does that mean that the WORDS have to be consecutive? (I don't interpert it that way- I interpert it as three words beginning with consecutive letters of the ALPHABET IE BCA BAD COULD ADD -or CAB = Can A Bug...? they're consecutive letters of the alphabet, the three words start with them. = so that would meet the challenge...heh maybe I should have entered this challenge...darn now I wish I had


I didn't see a single one that used consective letters out of order. I might have let that slide as subjective.

However, giving high marks to photos that failed to achieve the goals is wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Like they are teaching in schools today that "everyone should win."

Egads.
05/12/2008 10:55:00 PM · #70
Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Unless it meets the challenge, it has not earned the right to even be graded on the 1-10 scale. If it meets the challenge, then the 1=Bad, 10=Great works.


The official rules say nothing of the sort so I'm guessing you're just going by whatever rules you made up?


Nope. It's called logic and reason. That is the spirit of the rules. Otherwise, there should not be any challenge topic ever. Pretty obvious.
05/12/2008 10:57:08 PM · #71
Originally posted by BeeCee:



In the Voting Guidelines;

You should:
-consider the challenge topic when voting, and adjust your score accordingly.


so in consideration does that mean adjusting = overriding the image qualities and photographic good sense? and not voting on the -image- itself but only the topic?--nah didn't think so. it means -consider- adjust after you vote on the -photograph- right...? ie: vase in a bike challenge- greatly executed may get a 8 but would loose one or two points for not being on topic... hm...yeah that would make sense to me.... but just a flat out 1 for an image not on 'topic' unless its a really really bad photo makes no sense to me? :-D
05/12/2008 11:00:05 PM · #72
I like where this thread is going.

05/12/2008 11:03:29 PM · #73
Originally posted by Love6:

Originally posted by BeeCee:



In the Voting Guidelines;

You should:
-consider the challenge topic when voting, and adjust your score accordingly.


so in consideration does that mean adjusting = overriding the image qualities and photographic good sense? and not voting on the -image- itself but only the topic?--nah didn't think so. it means -consider- adjust after you vote on the -photograph- right...? ie: vase in a bike challenge- greatly executed may get a 8 but would loose one or two points for not being on topic... hm...yeah that would make sense to me.... but just a flat out 1 for an image not on 'topic' unless its a really really bad photo makes no sense to me? :-D


You're almost agreeing with us.

Assess the photo: and 8.

Penalize for DNMC: automatic -10.

8-10 = -2. Lowest we can give = 1, so it gets a one.

But wisely we can skip to the chase and just give them a 1.

Again, this is for clear DNMC like this challenge. Free Study, obviously, can never DNMC. Others fall in between and then -10 might be too harsh. But yes, a Vase in a Bike category, would clearly deserve a -10 because it didn't qualify for the theme.

05/12/2008 11:03:48 PM · #74
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Unless it meets the challenge, it has not earned the right to even be graded on the 1-10 scale. If it meets the challenge, then the 1=Bad, 10=Great works.


The official rules say nothing of the sort so I'm guessing you're just going by whatever rules you made up?


Nope. It's called logic and reason. That is the spirit of the rules. Otherwise, there should not be any challenge topic ever. Pretty obvious.


each individual interperts logic and reason diffrently tho - my logic follows the rules of voting outline- and I vote on the PHOTOGRAPH and then 'adjust' my score based on topic -after- I vote on the _PHOTOGRAPH_ (this is a digital photograph challenge place afterall) as someone said DNMC is not a reason for DQ = in essence giving 1's and 2's out to what you 'interpert' as a DNMC (but is otherwise a -great- image) is attempting to DQ the image/ is the image a BAD image of what it is of? if not- then vote on the image itself and then 'adjust' accordingly 1=BAD 10=GOOD

that is the -scale-
logically a 1=a BAD IMAGE A BAD PHOTOGRAPH A HORRIBLE UNWORTHY TO BE DISPLAYED IN A DARK CLOSET would be MY interpertation- of the 'score' I have yet to give out a 1 or 2 or 3 for that matter- it would have to be -really- bad for me to do that.
05/12/2008 11:05:45 PM · #75
so you don't vote on the PHOTOGRAPHS you vote on the THEMES
at least now I know where the 1's and 2's are comming from.
hopefully my 9's and 10's will cancel out some of them then since I vote on the PHOTOGRAPHS :)

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Love6:

Originally posted by BeeCee:



In the Voting Guidelines;

You should:
-consider the challenge topic when voting, and adjust your score accordingly.


so in consideration does that mean adjusting = overriding the image qualities and photographic good sense? and not voting on the -image- itself but only the topic?--nah didn't think so. it means -consider- adjust after you vote on the -photograph- right...? ie: vase in a bike challenge- greatly executed may get a 8 but would loose one or two points for not being on topic... hm...yeah that would make sense to me.... but just a flat out 1 for an image not on 'topic' unless its a really really bad photo makes no sense to me? :-D


You're almost agreeing with us.

Assess the photo: and 8.

Penalize for DNMC: automatic -10.

8-10 = -2. Lowest we can give = 1, so it gets a one.

But wisely we can skip to the chase and just give them a 1.

Again, this is for clear DNMC like this challenge. Free Study, obviously, can never DNMC. Others fall in between and then -10 might be too harsh. But yes, a Vase in a Bike category, would clearly deserve a -10 because it didn't qualify for the theme.


Message edited by author 2008-05-12 23:06:39.
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