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 04/09/2008 01:47:51 PM · #101
I will have to agree with MAK. Including only 1 ribbon winner in the team is a ridiculous idea. It will break most teams, and the friendships they developed over the time of the current olympics. It's the whole team that matters, and not individual members. You can have 2 members come out with above 7 scores and blue ribbons, and the rest below 5, and that's it, no points. Iceland is a perfect example. They can score well, but when they don't they just fall flat. Nothing against the Icelanders, great photos and competition!
If you got teams where people do not submit any photos for the challenges, then that's not the fault of ribbon winners. Sorry, I think this whole rule setting is getting out of hand. Keep it simple, easy and fun. Let the existing teams be as they are... add more people change some if you want, but keep the rules as simple as possible.
 04/09/2008 01:48:08 PM · #102
I'd like to declare an interest in being on the UK team, but this possibility of only allowing one ribbon winner on each team would mean I couldn't as marbo got in earlier and has a few to his name.

I'm in favour of letting the teams have as many ribboners as want to take part, after all that's how the real olympics work - recruit your top performers to represent your nation.

On a lighter note, will there be a torch procession? because I'd like to get my "FREE TIBET" protest in now!


04/09/2008 02:00:25 PM · #103
I'd like to join for the USA if there is still space available.
 04/09/2008 02:03:33 PM · #104
With big places like the USA, we should consider making more teams like USA1, USA2, that is if there is enough overflow of people being left out. More teams means more competition and that is always more fun.
 04/09/2008 02:08:57 PM · #105
Originally posted by JulietNN:

Poland:[/b][/i][/u] MAK



Poland team is unchanged we will get our NON-POLISH member and I will let you know who that is but until then..

MAK
BRUSKI
CPTPOLAND
DUDSKI
BUDYA
AP
ARTVET
 04/09/2008 02:28:22 PM · #106
I also agree with MAK, the 1 ribbon winner per team "RULE" is a absurd. I can't see any reasonable grounds what-so-ever to warrant such an idea. It would be unfair - i agree but for different reasons: It would be unfair for teams to crumble and people not being able to participate only because they have won ribbons. I believe that the DPC OLYMPICS is an open event and should be available for everyone, no matter how many ribbons and/or awards they have. I say this because winning ribbons isn't consistent; so a member could win a ribbon one challenge but not win anything the next. Sorry, but this so-called rule is ludicrous IMHO.
 04/09/2008 03:07:22 PM · #107
Sorry the one ribbon rule was added after i signed up.
But i have to agree it`s not a good rule and if it stays i will pull out so talj can enter as she was in the first team UK. I don`t won`t to split up the previous team, i just wanted to join them.

Originally posted by paynekj:
I'd like to declare an interest in being on the UK team, but this possibility of only allowing one ribbon winner on each team would mean I couldn't as marbo got in earlier and has a few to his name.

I'm in favour of letting the teams have as many ribboners as want to take part, after all that's how the real olympics work - recruit your top performers to represent your nation.

On a lighter note, will there be a torch procession? because I'd like to get my "FREE TIBET" protest in now!
04/09/2008 03:15:30 PM · #108
If that is how the majority of people feel about the ribbon winning teams, then lets keep it as it is.

What I am trying to do is to make it as fair for each team as it can possible be, so that we all start out on the same playing field.
 04/09/2008 03:16:02 PM · #109
Lets scrap that rule then!!
 04/09/2008 03:19:13 PM · #110
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Lets scrap that rule then!!


Thank you. Will be in touch soon with our 8th member. the polish 7 remain the same..
 04/09/2008 03:20:37 PM · #111
No trust me I am glad that you guys told me your thoughts and I was able to tell you mine. It is important to be heard and to speak, or nothing changes for the good or the bad.

So glad we could all natter about it and come up with a solution!!!
 04/09/2008 03:21:31 PM · #112
Juliet,

That was probably a very good decision... the troops were starting to get a little restless!!! :)
 04/09/2008 03:21:51 PM · #113
It was also my desire to join the existing UK team, hence holding back until they had a chance to sign up again and if they want to, I'll certainly stand down.


04/09/2008 03:25:14 PM · #114
Originally posted by bruski:
With big places like the USA, we should consider making more teams like USA1, USA2, that is if there is enough overflow of people being left out. More teams means more competition and that is always more fun.


I think this could be an idea. what would you all think of an East Coast USA and West Coast USA?????

Or make up an Island for them to go to???
 04/09/2008 03:40:24 PM · #115
Originally posted by paynekj:
It was also my desire to join the existing UK team, hence holding back until they had a chance to sign up again and if they want to, I'll certainly stand down.


Again if there is enough, we could do 2 UK teams as well. Come on now, everybody join a team.
 04/09/2008 03:48:34 PM · #116
you are in payne, 1st come first served as of right now
 04/09/2008 03:49:38 PM · #117
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by bruski:
With big places like the USA, we should consider making more teams like USA1, USA2, that is if there is enough overflow of people being left out. More teams means more competition and that is always more fun.


I think this could be an idea. what would you all think of an East Coast USA and West Coast USA?????

Or make up an Island for them to go to???


Nah, 1 team per country. Unless you scrap the Olympics title and call it a league tourney.
 04/09/2008 04:21:03 PM · #118
Sorry to butt in this discussion but I don´t really get the whole concept of "handicapping" teams to even the playing field? First, what is to be the measurement of a members worth to each team and honestly, how could that ever be truly measured accurately?

Average score received? That could easily be way off as some photographers only enter photos into challenges when they are in their own comfort zone and thus usually score higher, but then when they compete in something like this, they are forced to enter every week to themes they might feel uncomfortable with and will then probably score a lot worse than they usually do. Then there is those who scored low when they started here years and years ago but now do very well in challenges but because of those low scores in the start they have a relatively low average.

Average score in the last 10 challenges? That maybe makes more sense but anybody who has been into photography for more than a year or two knows that you hit slumps and then hit peaks so this is can also be very inaccurate.

The suggestion about ribbons strikes me as very odd, sure, having a ribbon/ribbons usually means a person knows what he/she is doing but I have seen way way way too many good photographers here on DPC that have none and a lot of mediocre ones who have snagged a couple so I absolutely don´t think counting them is in any means accurate.

Well what is left then, statistically? Sure I am forgetting something so by all means correct me :)

My point though is that WHY would anyone want to run something called the DCP Olympics and then want to handicap teams to level the playing field? I am no expert on the Olympics but I know they have standards in each event and if you don´t for example run or swim within a certain time or throw a spear a certain distance, you are not invited to participate. Every country sends their best, of course, and that´s pretty much what the olympics are about, the best competing against the best in their field.

If anything, you should do it the other way around. Only those with a high average, let´s say 6+ and maybe two ribbons or more, should be able to represent their country in the DPC Olympics.

Of course that would be ridiculous and I don´t intend anyone to take that last suggestion seriously, I am just trying to make a point about the whole handicap system, I mean I seriously don´t understand people who want to win so badly that they rather be playing against worse opponents so they can rather win.

It just takes me back to when I was a teenager and I played basketball for a local team. We had a pretty mediocre team and there was this one team in our division who usually whooped our asses pretty badly in every game we played against them. It just made us want to beat them even more badly and we did, once and that victory was actually the only game I now remember vividly, and it was more than 13 years ago. It never occurred to me to whine about them having this star player who usually just went past our defence like drinking water and it also never occured to me to try to injure him to increase or chances. Get my point. Eh, rant over, flame me all you want and I won´t butt in again, this is not my show to run and have fun with this, that´s what´s most important :)
 04/09/2008 04:28:38 PM · #119
Shame you wont be playing Larus, would be good to whoop your ass
 04/09/2008 04:34:01 PM · #120
I belive what has come out of all the different ideas and discussion about doing it this way or that way or seeing it from this point or that point, is that it pretty much worked the first time around and we are going to stick to that concept.

I think it is always good to be able to toss ideas around within a large group, sort of making a stew and see what floats and what sinks.

Some ideas are not good (mine mostly lol on the ribbons) and some are good.

I still firmly belive that doing a draw would be a bad thing overall as stated before. No one shoudl be left out jsut becuase they are percieved as not as good as another person.

So that is my $9.99 dollars worth of talk.
 04/09/2008 04:35:15 PM · #121
And MAK, don't worry, I will whoop your arse for you instead LOL
 04/09/2008 04:35:56 PM · #122
Germany: Juliet, Heish, tjmueller,C_Steve_G

Islanders:JamieVinas, andrew, danielcheongt

Poland: MAK,BRUSKI,CPTPOLAND,DUDSKI,BUDYA,AP,ARTVET

Greece: kolasi,onar, iraklis,nikolaos

Aussies: Vlado,naomik

USA: hippychick, kandikarml, penny1957, neophyte, laurie, Fetor, anglefire, andymac24 COMPLETED

UK: Soulman,marb,Paynekj,

Iceland: unneva

Canada: Cujee, Bassman

Message edited by author 2008-04-09 16:36:11.
 04/09/2008 04:39:37 PM · #123
I'm confused. Shouldn't the current team captains have a say as to who is to join their teams? I see Team USA is already full with new members. Did the current members decide to leave? Maybe first come first serve should just be used for new countries joining.

Just a suggestion if it hasn't already been made.
 04/09/2008 04:39:38 PM · #124
Originally posted by JulietNN:
And MAK, don't worry, I will whoop your arse for you instead LOL


Promises Promises
 04/09/2008 04:42:22 PM · #125
Originally posted by yanko:
I'm confused. Shouldn't the current team captains have a say as to who is to join their teams? I see Team USA is already full with new members. Did the current members decide to leave? Maybe first come first serve should just be used for new countries joining.

Just a suggestion if it hasn't already been made.


Thats why I got my team in FAST!
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