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03/27/2008 02:13:16 AM · #1
Intimacy was a challenging field for me!

I opened my dictionary:

Intimacy: A state of having a close personal relationship with someone:
the intimacy and friendliness of family life
(the lack of intimacy between parents and children)
Intimacies: remarks or actions of a type that happen only between people
who know each other very well:
women often met to exchange intimacies about their social life

Then I opened google to find some trivial shots about it as to avoid the obvious!

here is what I found:

//picasaweb.google.gr/lh/searchbrowse?q=intimacy&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:el:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wq#0+1

I will not comment here any of the shots before the end of the challenge.
But I voted, and still revising my first votes, having in mind that a shot should be on subject,
not trivial and technically irreproachable.

I d like to know your thoughts about it!

Message edited by author 2008-03-27 02:14:01.
03/27/2008 07:06:25 AM · #2
I think that half the shots in the challenge don't even meet the challenge. Somewhere along the line someone thought that intimacy means sex, sexy, having sex, or looking for sex. It doesn't. Intimacy is a feeling you get when you are in love with someone and there is a solid connection between the 2 of you. That love doesn't have to be a husband and wife but like when you hold a child. The love you have for your own child is intimacy. IMO some people completely missed this challenge.

03/27/2008 07:22:19 AM · #3
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

I think that half the shots in the challenge don't even meet the challenge. Somewhere along the line someone thought that intimacy means sex, sexy, having sex, or looking for sex. It doesn't. Intimacy is a feeling you get when you are in love with someone and there is a solid connection between the 2 of you. That love doesn't have to be a husband and wife but like when you hold a child. The love you have for your own child is intimacy. IMO some people completely missed this challenge.


That all depends...I have always known intimacy to mean a private moment with a loved one.

From Wikepedia -

"An intimate relationship is a particularly close interpersonal relationship. It is a relationship in which the participants know or trust one another very well or are confidants of one another, or a relationship in which there is physical or emotional intimacy.

Physical intimacy is characterized by romantic or passionate love and attachment, or sexual activity."


03/27/2008 07:28:10 AM · #4
when you say private you mean what? In the bedroom getting ready to make love?
03/27/2008 07:30:21 AM · #5
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

when you say private you mean what? In the bedroom getting ready to make love?


Could be. Some people see that as a beautiful and intimate moment. For others it may be a quiet moment spent with their child or other loved one. It is different to many people. Vote how you like...but don't try to tell others how to vote. If you are unsure on the true meaning of the challenge...then research it...but don't close yourself off from the possibilities of other meanings.


03/27/2008 07:41:36 AM · #6
Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

when you say private you mean what? In the bedroom getting ready to make love?


Could be. Some people see that as a beautiful and intimate moment. For others it may be a quiet moment spent with their child or other loved one. It is different to many people. Vote how you like...but don't try to tell others how to vote. If you are unsure on the true meaning of the challenge...then research it...but don't close yourself off from the possibilities of other meanings.


I agree with you to an extent. The moment just before sex could be intimate but it is easily confused with passion, or lust, or even that sexual urge to just want to go wild with them. The intimate part in my mind is when you two first wake up and you are both staring into each others eyes and you KNOW right then and there that they are the person for you. When you connect and say everything without saying a word. By all means that is not the only time you can be intimate but was only an example.

By any means I am not telling anyone how to vote (although I think 80%+ do vote wrongly) I can't control it being where I am now but I do think that before people even open this link they should be sure they read the challenge details and research it before voting.
03/27/2008 09:08:41 AM · #7
This would have been a great thread to have started BEFORE the challenge went into voting (or more appropriately AFTER perhaps). Although, certainly not as exciting as discussing it now to stir the pot, eh?
03/27/2008 12:42:16 PM · #8
Come on people, open your minds a little. If we are going for dictionary definitions then here you go.

"Intimacy with self means accepting yourself and being aware of and open to who you are, without reservations, without explanation. In other words: what you see is what you get. Self-intimacy is not a narcissistic self-love, but a connected presence, an ongoing appreciation of who you are as a unique expression of Life, appreciating the embodiment of intelligence that you are, and looking openly at that without judgment. Self-intimacy is much like becoming your own best friend; you understand "you," you talk to "you", you are gentle to "you."
03/27/2008 01:52:05 PM · #9
I guess I think of intimacy as all the things mentioned but also trust and a certain kind of softness.

I don't think there is a right answer :) it's so subjective...
03/27/2008 11:27:55 PM · #10
Yes, it's an extremely subjective concept. Words and concepts can have such a wide range of meanings for each of us. It's good to try to allow for -- and encourage --some degree of freedom of artistic expression, IMO, rather than to be quick to label something as "DNMC."

And yes, communication is a two-way process. It's late. I'm tired. Thank you.

(...remaining thoughts edited... on second thought... 'scuse my earlier rant!)

Message edited by author 2008-03-28 00:15:18.
03/28/2008 12:03:17 AM · #11
Good communication requires two parties. The sender and the receiver. To attack the receiver as a "newbie" ignores the responsibility of the sender. Not only that, we are all (both sender and receiver) at different levels ... of experience, of communication, of understanding, of language. That some one doesn't "get" an image, is not singularly their fault for not trying. Again, it requires two parties to communicate. And even when both are perfect in their execution, communication can still fail (again, for differences in experience, understanding, language, etc).

Don't blame the voters if they don't "get" your image. At least 50% of the blame rests with the one who created and submitted the image.

Message edited by author 2008-03-28 00:04:23.
03/28/2008 12:34:42 AM · #12
Originally posted by dwterry:

Don't blame the voters if they don't "get" your image. At least 50% of the blame rests with the one who created and submitted the image.


The problem isn't quite that black and white when a good number of people do "get" the image, and a similar number of people don't. I think that's when the level of frustration elevates above normal.

However I would agree. Don't blame the voters. No one can be that naive that they don't think thier photograph won't be scrutinized for how well it meets the challenge. The behavior and debate has been ongoing for years.
03/29/2008 12:42:12 PM · #13
Originally posted by garrywhite2:

Originally posted by dwterry:

Don't blame the voters if they don't "get" your image. At least 50% of the blame rests with the one who created and submitted the image.


The problem isn't quite that black and white when a good number of people do "get" the image, and a similar number of people don't. I think that's when the level of frustration elevates above normal.

However I would agree. Don't blame the voters. No one can be that naive that they don't think thier photograph won't be scrutinized for how well it meets the challenge. The behavior and debate has been ongoing for years.


This challenge does seem to have a lot of interpretation in the voting. I have gotten 6 coents that say "you nailed it" "perfect capture of intimacy", "best photo" yet my score is in the low 5s. Doesn't really bother me as I understand different people see different things. Just think it is interesting.
03/29/2008 01:11:12 PM · #14
I'm surprised there's actually even a debate around what is a legitimate or non-legitimate interpretation of the word. Isn't that the whole point of the challenges ? To see how people interpret ?
03/29/2008 01:29:45 PM · #15
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

I think that half the shots in the challenge don't even meet the challenge. Somewhere along the line someone thought that intimacy means sex, sexy, having sex, or looking for sex. It doesn't. Intimacy is a feeling you get when you are in love with someone and there is a solid connection between the 2 of you. That love doesn't have to be a husband and wife but like when you hold a child. The love you have for your own child is intimacy. IMO some people completely missed this challenge.


How is sex not intimate? It should be! I do agree about other love like with a child.... but come on sex not intimate?

Other than that though there were some people reeeeeaaally stretching the meaning of intimate.... like just making something in the title say i love rocks and then post a picture of a rock... your image should CONVEY itimacy. not make me imagine it.
03/29/2008 02:10:50 PM · #16
Again...it's all subjective. Photography is an art form after all.
03/29/2008 02:46:25 PM · #17
Originally posted by ashepp:

Isn't that the whole point of the challenges ? To see how people interpret ?


if only more people felt that way!
03/29/2008 03:22:48 PM · #18
This like every other challenge, the topic is interpreted by both the photographer and by each individual voter.

You define the topic by your life experiences...I actually pay more attention to the comments than the actual score.

Looking at comments, you can see how others interpret the topic based on their life experiences.
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