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03/16/2008 11:12:00 AM · #1 |
Okay, I'm sure stuff like this has been posted before, but since it happened to me last night, I need to vent! Last night I took the family to a show at the local arena called Monster Jam (I was able to get free tickets from work). It is a monster truck / dirt truck race / motorcycle jumping show, and we've never gone to one. I looked the tickets over thoroughly, and I noticed there was nothing written that said no cameras. And since I've seen tons of pictures on the web of shows like this, I figured "cool, I'll bring my camera and get some great shots". So, I put the 70-200 f/2.8 on my 5D, put it in my small camera case, and off we went. Well, we got to the entrance, and I had my camera bag open, as I knew they were going to check it (no problem, or so I thought). The lady asked me if it was a video camera, and I said no, it was simply a camera. She said I couldn't bring it in, as the "don't allow cameras like that to be used". She mumbled something about professional lenses, but I didn't catch what she said. I pointed out that it didn't say anything on the tickets about no cameras, but, of course, that didn't do any good and I had to leave my wife, kids, and a friend of my kids waiting at the gate while I put my camera back. I thought, "oh well, no cameras allowed--whatever". So the show starts, and for EVERY jump the motorcycles and trucks made, there were hundreds of cameras flashing all over! At one point, the announcer even said to take off your lens caps, as one of the motorcycle riders was going to do a back flip. There were TONS of opportunities to take spectacular pictures, but because my camera was too good, I wasn't allowed to bring it in. But you could bring in all the little P&S cameras you wanted. WTF??? Who are the security guards to tell me my camera is too good to use, when I'm sure they had NO IDEA what kind of camera I was bringing in! Yes, it is a professional setup even though I'm not a pro (at least not full-time). And I had no intension of selling any shots, I just wanted to take some pictures for my own collection (and to post some here, of course). Again, I'm sure this has happened before, but it drives my crazy! Anyway, thanks for listening to my little sob story. Feel free to share your tale of woe, if you have a similar one to tell.
-Don |
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03/16/2008 11:16:47 AM · #2 |
What I did when I went to a local Supercross event was to but a small lens on my camera, then put my "big" lens in its own case and have someone else carry it. So far it has worked alright.
It sucks that they do that. You can take pictures, as long as they are crappy and you can't tell what you took them of.
Message edited by author 2008-03-16 11:17:41. |
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03/16/2008 12:15:43 PM · #3 |
| First of all I remove the battery grip, then put on the 50mm. The 70-200 2.8 goes in the camera bag on the bottom with the cleaning cloth covering ¾ of it. This has worked every time I go to the Las Vegas Speedway. |
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03/16/2008 01:23:02 PM · #4 |
| That sounds like good ideas. If I would have put my 50mm on it, there wouldn't have been a problem. Live and learn, but it still kills me that you would have to resort to such stupid tactics to take GOOD pictures of an event. |
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03/16/2008 01:26:28 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by cbeller:
What I did when I went to a local Supercross event was to but a small lens on my camera, then put my "big" lens in its own case and have someone else carry it. So far it has worked alright.
It sucks that they do that. You can take pictures, as long as they are crappy and you can't tell what you took them of. |
Change "tell" to "sell" and now you know why the restriction exists.
A restriction against professional lenses is not at all unusual, and the 70-200 f/2.8 is a professional lens.
~Terry
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03/17/2008 01:14:08 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Redneck:
First of all I remove the battery grip, then put on the 50mm. The 70-200 2.8 goes in the camera bag on the bottom with the cleaning cloth covering ¾ of it. This has worked every time I go to the Las Vegas Speedway. |
Wow, you still use a camera bag.
I've heard of people with their camera around their neck (with a 50mm) and putting their big lens in a cooler with some sandwiches on top. |
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03/17/2008 01:16:33 PM · #7 |
I've brought my camera in with a 50mm attached and the 70-200mm strapped to my leg. :) Worked like a charm other than the fact that I was scared to death that it would fall off.
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03/17/2008 01:29:33 PM · #8 |
Just put the lens down the front of your pants and tell your S.O. to give the security guard a really blissed out smile.
Message edited by author 2008-03-17 14:03:42. |
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03/17/2008 02:48:07 PM · #9 |
| Whenever I can, I e-mail/call the event people and clarify their position......I prefer e-mail, and I try like heck to get a specific name when I get permission so that I can bring it with me to get me in the gate. |
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03/17/2008 02:56:47 PM · #10 |
Monster Jam must train these people at the same place. I had the EXACT same experience a couple years ago at the Monster Jam at Anaheim Stadium. No "pro" cameras allowed (looking at my 70-200IS). Just for fun I asked her what their definition of "pro" lens was to which she replied: "um, like... anything over 4 inches." Hmm... right.
I understand why they do it and all, but they should put a "or pro cameras" alongside the "no videocameras" on the tickets and website. |
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03/18/2008 01:29:27 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Redneck:
First of all I remove the battery grip, then put on the 50mm. The 70-200 2.8 goes in the camera bag on the bottom with the cleaning cloth covering ¾ of it. This has worked every time I go to the Las Vegas Speedway. |
That's strange, usually racetracks (auto) don't care, I brought my xti, with grip, and my 75-300, 28-80, and my 50mm in the bag and everything. Is Vegas different?
california speedway
Message edited by author 2008-03-18 18:52:18.
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03/19/2008 01:16:40 PM · #12 |
| Nascar is pretty cool about bending the rules. Many times it is not the show but the location that has these restrictions. Most places indicated on the web or at the gate no cameras with interchangable lens and nothing over 4 inchs. One way to side step this is work with a local newspaper or magazine to get a press pass. |
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03/19/2008 01:34:06 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Pixlmaker:
... So, I put the 70-200 f/2.8 on my 5D, put it in my small camera case, and off we went. ... |
I'm sure I couldn't lift your big camera case! lol |
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03/19/2008 01:55:03 PM · #14 |
I went to a marching band competition in a domed stadium that had the "no professional cameras" rule. Their definition is that if you can change the lens it is professional. A friend was with me and put my camera under his coat. We joke that anything could have been taken in as no one mentioned it.
They fail to realize that having a "professional camera" does not mean you are a professional photographer, and are not likely to get much unless you are on or near the field. |
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03/25/2008 01:51:08 PM · #15 |
| I recently took photos for the Rosecity Rollers You sometimes have to ask for a special badge in advance. That allows to bring high end media gear into the stadium. They usually ask that you sign a weaver to rights of the photos, and to post them up in a specified website such as Flickr so they can use them too. |
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03/25/2008 03:56:23 PM · #16 |
| The same thing happened to me at a concert, except i didnt bring my camera because the website said they werent allowed. Everyone was taking photos inside and out. What really made me mad was that we got invited to an after party with the lead guitarist and I didnt have my camera and none of us had cell phone cameras because they are illegal at my work. Some drunk girl took our photo and we gave her our email address but of course we never got the pics. |
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03/25/2008 06:54:27 PM · #17 |
Dont worry about. ok. worry. but i had a simular situation except it was a cheap cheesy camera that was really crapy. anyways. they did the same thing to me and i so ticked off. hope you have better luck next time!!!
~Sofia |
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04/01/2008 11:57:51 AM · #18 |
You got off lightly, here in the criminally insane UK I have been told I cant take photo's of my own town ( no - not shops, not malls but the outside town itself. ), my local park ( because apparently everyone with a camera is a child molestor here ).
Strange, there are plenty of photo's of my town and parks around here all over google dating back to the 1970's.
I doubt the people had these attitudes back then *puzzled look*
I'd shudder to think what would happen if I ever tried to take my camera to an event like that - and sharing your frustration there are indeed many such good photo's from these events all over the internet too.
Very annoying since digital photography is so popular now days.
A photo will always be a photo and these fatheads should probably worry about more important things ;)
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