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11/20/2011 05:10:27 AM · #1
Good luck with the dpc site update...... am looking forward to a new, user friendly & elegant environment. À la carte photo gaming for body slammers, ie. dpl is fine as long as it is in some form of preferences, along with other user options, where I would not have to look at them too often.
11/19/2011 05:07:43 PM · #2
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

I along with some others are working on some additions to the site. They can be installed per user so if someone decides they don't want change then they don't have to install it.


Sign me up for the ribbon every challenge (no not the brown), feature.
11/19/2011 03:49:37 PM · #3
I along with some others are working on some additions to the site. They can be installed per user so if someone decides they don't want change then they don't have to install it.
11/19/2011 03:20:27 PM · #4
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:


...I look fwd to seeing the new and improved DPC, esp if the scores only go down to 6, no more 1-5's.


I say we get rid of all of the scores except the 6... That way most of us will see an increase in average and we will only piss of the "elite" of this site.

The 99% of DPC would welcome this proposal right? :O)

Ray
11/19/2011 11:43:44 AM · #5
Originally posted by Cory:

I know, it's completely ridiculous for you to expect some sort of an update so soon... It's only been a little over three years after all... Damn, give the man some time.

I'm glad to see other's chiming in. After the "backlash" that I got the last time I sounded off about this I decided to back off for awhile. Consider this my version of a bump.
11/18/2011 11:38:07 PM · #6
Originally posted by Cory:

I know, it's completely ridiculous for you to expect some sort of an update so soon... It's only been a little over three years after all... Damn, give the man some time.


LMFAO
09/11/2011 11:04:44 PM · #7
Originally posted by langdon:

we'll make the necessary announcements when we have more information and are in a better place to release said information.


DPC Forums would be an excellent place to release the "said information."
I look fwd to seeing the new and improved DPC, esp if the scores only go down to 6, no more 1-5's.
09/11/2011 10:34:24 PM · #8
Oh boo hoo
09/11/2011 08:17:37 PM · #9
This can only end in tears...
09/11/2011 06:58:25 PM · #10
I know, it's completely ridiculous for you to expect some sort of an update so soon... It's only been a little over three years after all... Damn, give the man some time.
09/11/2011 06:53:36 PM · #11
Originally posted by David Ey:

Be patient.

+1 sheesh.
09/11/2011 06:52:45 PM · #12
Be patient.
09/11/2011 06:50:03 PM · #13
Originally posted by langdon:

I just wanted to release a quick note regarding DPC and the DPL... During internal discussion about DPL, a simple realization was made: We realized that we had much bigger fish to fry than simply how to run the second season of the DPL. We decided to refocus our efforts on overhauling DPChallenge. I can't say much now, but be sure that we'll make the necessary announcements when we have more information and are in a better place to release said information.

Just a side note, it shouldn't take anywhere near as long as DPCPrints2. :)

ETA: DPL is being heavily considered and will most likely be included in our overhaul.


Any updates on the overhaul?
05/21/2008 09:22:17 PM · #14
I'm not sure what this overhaul entails, so its hard to be for or against it. I will give some items from my wishlist.

1. I would like yearly statistics available as well as overall statistics. I have been a member since 2004, and my average hardly changes at all. I would like to see how I'm doing for the year.

2. I would like to see what place my photo is currently in while voting is taking place. It would make the update button even more exciting (addicting?)

3. I would like a rating for everyone who submits to a minimum number of challenges. Chess players are rated, golfers are rated. There are many ways to do this. Then we would know who is number one at dpc.

Good luck with the overhaul
05/21/2008 08:12:05 PM · #15
what is the status on DPCPrints2? I've been waiting and waiting to become a paying member again as soon as this happens!
03/16/2008 02:13:38 PM · #16
Originally posted by ZeppKash:

I tried to look at the stats from the last DPL, but can't find them.


Ah, right. I haven't looked at the DPL stuff in months. They took it down. The three divisions were based on 30-day averages of the team members.

Randomizing the teams is certainly one option. But many long-time members feel like that takes away from the fun of playing with people you've gotten to know. And many people like to go up against the very best, feeling that doing well in those circumstances tells them they've really grown.

I think both systems (made teams and random teams) have merit. In fact, that's how my Ultimate frisbee club works: we have two leagues, and people can choose which one to join. I think that'd be too much for DPC to do simultaneously, but maybe we could alternate.

As for me personally, I'll participate however it's organized. Heck, I only knew two of my seven Team USA teammates beforehand, and now I'm making new friends. :)
03/16/2008 10:28:40 AM · #17
Originally posted by ZeppKash:

I tried to look at the stats from the last DPL, but can't find them. (the only think under the 'league' tab are some 'about' and 'FAQ') ...

There's more there, just need to poke around a bit. :-)

DPL Season 1 Teams - Seed Averages
DPL Season 1 Standings
03/16/2008 09:27:59 AM · #18
Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by frisca:

guys, I don't want to stiffle your voice, but many of the suggestions on how to make DPL better have already been noted when we did evaluations and solicited feedback about DPL1. Our research gathered there is part of the reason we want to change things and part of the reason the DPL hasn't just started up again just as it was!


I'm glad that our feedback has already been noted but we aren't privy to the suggestions made in the surveys.

...


You can download the survey analysis here.
03/16/2008 08:29:59 AM · #19
Originally posted by levyj413:

Originally posted by ZeppKash:

Can you honestly tell me that the previous DPL wasn't like a few pro baseball teams competing with each other while beating up the the 'pick-me-up' game teams?


Absolutely. Did you know there were three divisions? Go look at who won the B and C divisions. I think I'd love to hear you debate with the people who complained because it wasn't all one big group.


No, i did no know this. I tried to look at the stats from the last DPL, but can't find them. (the only think under the 'league' tab are some 'about' and 'FAQ') My previous statement was my observation from the outside as the league was ongoing.
I am part of the crowd that would like to see it as one big group. One big group of competative teams.

Originally posted by vlado:

a salary cap... I don't know, maybe all willing participants other than captains get put into a pool with a $ value attributed to each person based on current average? Then the captains pick teams from the available pool w/o exceeding the salary cap.

"DPC Fantasy League"


THAT'S what i'm talking about!
03/16/2008 06:51:14 AM · #20
Perhaps DPL2 could adopt a salary cap... I don't know, maybe all willing participants other than captains get put into a pool with a $ value attributed to each person based on current average? Then the captains pick teams from the available pool w/o exceeding the salary cap. Would avoid the "Yankees and Red Sox" verses the rest aspect of DPC1 which many people have commented on, and would get people meeting and working with others they wouldn't normally get to associate with.

Just an idea I had while reading this thread...

Even if it's not adopted for DPL2, it could be modified as a separate "DPC Fantasy League" thing. :)
03/16/2008 06:50:35 AM · #21
Originally posted by frisca:

guys, I don't want to stiffle your voice, but many of the suggestions on how to make DPL better have already been noted when we did evaluations and solicited feedback about DPL1. Our research gathered there is part of the reason we want to change things and part of the reason the DPL hasn't just started up again just as it was!


I'm glad that our feedback has already been noted but we aren't privy to the suggestions made in the surveys.

I thought this thread was another part of the evaluation process?

You guys obviously see problems with the DPL and perhaps these problems are best kept secret but if that is the case please tell use so we can stop speculating and leave it up to you guys to sort it out, otherwise this thread will go on forever without any real outcomes and lots of frustration from us.

Message edited by author 2008-03-16 08:04:01.
03/16/2008 06:42:29 AM · #22
Originally posted by levyj413:

Originally posted by ZeppKash:

Can you honestly tell me that the previous DPL wasn't like a few pro baseball teams competing with each other while beating up the the 'pick-me-up' game teams?


Absolutely. Did you know there were three divisions? Go look at who won the B and C divisions. I think I'd love to hear you debate with the people who complained because it wasn't all one big group.

And I'm not sure who you think was the #2 team to beat. I think my longterm average had just climbed above 5.5 for the first time when DPL started, so I certainly wasn't some powerhouse "beating up" on anyone.

As for whether DPL is a learning experience, I'm here to say it was, very much. I flat-out couldn't have won my first ribbon without the stuff my teammates taught me. And I'd like to think I've also taught them a few things. In fact, that's why we formed our team. Not for the competition per se, but for the sharing and learning. It just so happened that we won a lot.

And we've continued to share and learn together. We never vote on each other's pictures if we've shown them before hand. I'm also on Team USA, and we're doing the same thing.

There's simply no question that discussing photos ahead of time is a fantastic learning experience. On our team, we regularly post more than one version, different editing variations, etc. We all choose what advice to use and what to ignore, but just having it available is huge. And I now have some more friends on DPC.

I do think that perhaps it'd be best to have separate DPL challenges. Yes, it'd mean 6 challenges with ribbon-winners on the home page instead of three. But three isn't some magic number, it's just where things have ended up.


I agree with everything you say but there lays the problem. If it is okay for the members to use the collaboration as you are, a learning process, the line is blurred and potential problems arise when you have a group of the best photographers on the site using that collaboration as a joint effort to win challenges for their team. Is that fair? Iím not sure?

This collaboration by the better photographers can also be excused as a learning process for them but it is seen by the average user as an unfair advantage.

I think this is one of the problems with the running of DPL2 but there is probably more and I hope we can be informed of what the big issues are.

Message edited by author 2008-03-16 08:02:08.
03/16/2008 03:03:55 AM · #23
Originally posted by ZeppKash:

Can you honestly tell me that the previous DPL wasn't like a few pro baseball teams competing with each other while beating up the the 'pick-me-up' game teams?


Absolutely. Did you know there were three divisions? Go look at who won the B and C divisions. I think I'd love to hear you debate with the people who complained because it wasn't all one big group.

And I'm not sure who you think was the #2 team to beat. I think my longterm average had just climbed above 5.5 for the first time when DPL started, so I certainly wasn't some powerhouse "beating up" on anyone.

As for whether DPL is a learning experience, I'm here to say it was, very much. I flat-out couldn't have won my first ribbon without the stuff my teammates taught me. And I'd like to think I've also taught them a few things. In fact, that's why we formed our team. Not for the competition per se, but for the sharing and learning. It just so happened that we won a lot.

And we've continued to share and learn together. We never vote on each other's pictures if we've shown them before hand. I'm also on Team USA, and we're doing the same thing.

There's simply no question that discussing photos ahead of time is a fantastic learning experience. On our team, we regularly post more than one version, different editing variations, etc. We all choose what advice to use and what to ignore, but just having it available is huge. And I now have some more friends on DPC.

I do think that perhaps it'd be best to have separate DPL challenges. Yes, it'd mean 6 challenges with ribbon-winners on the home page instead of three. But three isn't some magic number, it's just where things have ended up.

Message edited by author 2008-03-16 03:08:46.
03/16/2008 12:43:05 AM · #24
Originally posted by dassilem:

I feel extremely inferior while the DPL challenges are going on. My photography cannot compete with 'the big guys'...but I joined this site to learn, read, ask questions, and see how my photo stacks up, etc. Like was mentioned before, I learn alot from the descriptions on the photos....However, while DPL is going on, it feels like 'I don't belong'....most conversations are about DPL, or the DPL scores, etc. I just actually noticed I think I stopped competing when this was going on.....I still am on DPC non-stop, but I use it more to learn (read and ask) rather than post my challenges...

That's not what I thought the site was about.


Added bold--

Perhaps you've discovered the most valuable part of DPC??
03/15/2008 08:03:03 PM · #25
I feel extremely inferior while the DPL challenges are going on. My photography cannot compete with 'the big guys'...but I joined this site to learn, read, ask questions, and see how my photo stacks up, etc. Like was mentioned before, I learn alot from the descriptions on the photos....However, while DPL is going on, it feels like 'I don't belong'....most conversations are about DPL, or the DPL scores, etc. I just actually noticed I think I stopped competing when this was going on.....I still am on DPC non-stop, but I use it more to learn (read and ask) rather than post my challenges...

That's not what I thought the site was about.
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