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03/02/2004 12:36:57 AM · #1
I am in another contest, and in a few hours I went from 3rd to not even in the top 10 anymore! Some of the photos are excellent, but why do I seem to get negative results with "Aura"? Is it because people just CAN'T believe it's a real photo? Do people think it's photo shopped? Is it because it's so different? Not some flowers, or wildlife? It's so heartbreaking to know that I created a beautiful image with an idea, household objects and lighting and not a computer program... and I feel it's not getting the recognition it deserves....

Am I just stupid and bitter?
Maybe I just complain too much lol

~Lor

03/02/2004 01:14:05 AM · #2
If you're complaining that you always get negative results with that shot, yet you got 3rd place for it here at DPC, then I'd politely ask you to close your smug little mouth, as I and hundreds, nay, thousands, of other DPC'ers would love to be in your "predicament."
03/02/2004 02:50:17 AM · #3
oh snap
03/02/2004 03:53:03 AM · #4
Forgive me, but it sounds like you think the photo is better than it is to others....always a big problem.
03/02/2004 07:16:50 AM · #5
you'll find, after some time here, that this site really is quite conservative and often the more 'arty' pictures are overlooked for something much more traditional and, frankly, quite boring. i mean no offense to anyone, as there are certainly some amazing photos out there.

however, i do find it quite presumptuous of you to be complaining when you're relatively new, have only entered 7 challenges, and have already won a ribbon.

if you don't think your photos are appreciated here, its best to find someplace else to display them. the general attitudes of this site are not going to change anytime soon. being pissy certainly is not going to change it.

many of the more long-time members here have taken to doing their own thing photographically and then entering challenges when they feel its appropriate. i can't even begin to count the masses who assumed they were going to take this site by storm and then end up completely defeated....and pissy.

that being said, your Aura picture was incredible and a well-deserved ribbon. had i voted for it (i don't vote much anymore, but i think that's fine because i don't enter much anymore), i certainly would have given it high marks.
03/02/2004 07:49:52 AM · #6
Lori - I dont see any negative comments in 'Aura'. OK a few did suggest doing things differently but that is not negative. If I was you I would not even try and understand how people vote or how other people see your photo. It will only drive you crazy! Just keep up the good work and enjoy taking photographs that please you.

Mike

(edit for typos)


Message edited by author 2004-03-02 08:00:40.
03/02/2004 09:50:57 AM · #7
Originally posted by nsoroma79:

I am in another contest


Just what other contest are you referring to? I think you have confused some of us. Do you mean to say that you have entered your Aura image on another site?
03/02/2004 10:33:16 AM · #8
It's in Smart Eagle's photo of the month for Feb. It's currently in 9th. Another of our member's image is currently in 1st. (Banmorn)

Message edited by author 2004-03-02 10:33:36.
03/02/2004 10:39:23 AM · #9
Well you got a ribbon with it at DPC, it was selected as a daily deviant on DA, and I believe you recently said that it won as PoTD somewhere else too. That certainly isnt negative. That said, to answer your question, yes, it could very well have been manipulated with an editing program and it's not what some people consider to be 'traditional' photography so I'm sure some people are biased against it on those points. It could also be that in the other contest that the people voting on the pictures just prefer the other ones compared to yours. That certainly happens in contests.

Message edited by author 2004-03-02 10:40:08.
03/02/2004 10:46:57 AM · #10
She's just confused as to why the vast majority of people who have seen and judged this pic have liked it more than most other pics [hence the ribbons and acknowledgement] and now all of a sudden people [on the other site] don't seem to like it nearly as much. I think anyone would be sort of scratching their head after such great previous feedback.
03/02/2004 10:55:37 AM · #11
Originally posted by nsoroma79:

I am in another contest, and in a few hours I went from 3rd to not even in the top 10 anymore! Some of the photos are excellent, but why do I seem to get negative results with "Aura"? Is it because people just CAN'T believe it's a real photo? Do people think it's photo shopped? Is it because it's so different? Not some flowers, or wildlife? It's so heartbreaking to know that I created a beautiful image with an idea, household objects and lighting and not a computer program... and I feel it's not getting the recognition it deserves....

Am I just stupid and bitter?
Maybe I just complain too much lol

~Lor


I think it's a great shot. I think it has also received a lot of great feedback. How well it does in competitions will vary from place to place. Winning on one site doesn't guarantee the same results on others.

If your vision had been mine instead, it would not matter to me how well it did on any particular website. I sorta hope a print is available at some point :)

03/02/2004 12:36:41 PM · #12
Originally posted by MadMordegon:

oh snap


lol
03/02/2004 02:42:11 PM · #13
LOL - no wonder I could not find any 'negative' comments if its in another comp on a different site.....doh!


03/02/2004 03:21:20 PM · #14
Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

It's in Smart Eagle's photo of the month for Feb. It's currently in 9th. Another of our member's image is currently in 1st. (Banmorn)


Link please

Deannda
Would like to see
03/02/2004 04:53:52 PM · #15
Originally posted by GoldBerry:

She's just confused as to why the vast majority of people who have seen and judged this pic have liked it more than most other pics [hence the ribbons and acknowledgement] and now all of a sudden people [on the other site] don't seem to like it nearly as much. I think anyone would be sort of scratching their head after such great previous feedback.


Yeah, it's on Smarteagle. And that is exactly how I feel, I get such high regards here and on DA. That's not my problem. I wasn't looking for pity or anything like that, it was merely to say that I am confused as too why it works some places and not others.... I am really bad with words(gets me in trouble with the hubby alot! LoL)

I am so glad for the support from everyone here, and I am so thankful for all the input. I guess my problem is, that I TRY to please EVERYONE else and forget about myself. I guess it's time to make pictures to make me happy.... who cares what anyone else may say?!?!?

<3 Lorrie

Oh and Neuferland
Aura

Message edited by author 2004-03-02 16:55:33.
03/02/2004 09:48:42 PM · #16
As of 8:48 pm Chicago time, Aura is winning the Smart Eagle Open Category by .07 points.
03/02/2004 11:03:18 PM · #17
apparently it pays to advertise...
03/02/2004 11:28:02 PM · #18
Originally posted by nsoroma79:

results with "Aura"? Is it because people just CAN'T believe it's a real photo? Do people think it's photo shopped? Is it because it's so different?


Lor, I thought it was photoshopped when I first saw and still do. :) Don't get me wrong, I really love it but even by reading your "technical jargon" comment, I don't see how you could get those results without doing something in PS.

Can you explain the technique a little more? I really would love to try this and make an image like this one, it's AWESOME in my opinion. If you don't want to give away the exact technique you used I understand, but at least say so if you don't want to.

03/03/2004 12:32:10 AM · #19
Originally posted by ChrisW123:

Originally posted by nsoroma79:

results with "Aura"? Is it because people just CAN'T believe it's a real photo? Do people think it's photo shopped? Is it because it's so different?


Lor, I thought it was photoshopped when I first saw and still do. :) Don't get me wrong, I really love it but even by reading your "technical jargon" comment, I don't see how you could get those results without doing something in PS.

Can you explain the technique a little more? I really would love to try this and make an image like this one, it's AWESOME in my opinion. If you don't want to give away the exact technique you used I understand, but at least say so if you don't want to.


Chris, it was done exactly the way I said... try it sometime. I don't know how else to explain. That is how I did it plain and simple. I know something so simple sounds weird... but heck, I don't even know how to do much of anything in PS. I didn't even know what despeckle was... I called is dusting for ever!! LoL And that is all I did with the shot I "dusted" out an extra pixel or two.

I will try to do a "How'd they do it" tutorial this week. :)

And Gordon.... sillyhead.
03/03/2004 01:38:20 AM · #20
Thanks! I will try it... hope the results are as good as yours.
03/03/2004 03:38:05 AM · #21
It all depends on the standard of web site that you submit to.

Enter that in a professional competition run by and for professional photographers and your heart will most likely be broken...
03/03/2004 05:06:57 PM · #22
Can someone post a link to the web page Samrt Eagle. It is not listed on any search engine as of yet. I would like to check this out.

Message edited by author 2004-03-03 17:07:14.
03/03/2004 07:14:18 PM · #23
Originally posted by nosher:

Can someone post a link to the web page Samrt Eagle. It is not listed on any search engine as of yet. I would like to check this out.


smarteagle
03/03/2004 07:28:36 PM · #24
Originally posted by nsoroma79:


And Gordon.... sillyhead.


:)
03/03/2004 07:53:36 PM · #25
I loved the Aura image. I have tried painting with light one many occasions with varying degrees of success.

But to say you feel hard-done-by by not getting recognition for it is a bit off.

As has been said, there are hundreds of us who enter photos each week under the real belief that they can get a ribbon. The vast majority are disappointed. For me it just makes me work harder. Sometimes I think that 'people just don't get me'. But that's par for the course.

I personally greatly respect the voters on this site. I don't agree with them very often but it's all quite consistent and I try to adapt my style to what I think will go down well. That's all part of the challenge.

The Aura image is great but obviously not to everyone's taste. Just take solace in the fact that a huge number of people DID think it was great. Boo Hoo if it didn't go all the way! Get over it and keep trying.

Incidently - what I'm getting increasingly annoyed with is people who pass often over-critical and sometimes unfounded criticism on our photos who have never even entered a challenge. I find it very hard to accept 'constructive criticism' from people who have never entered a challenge. How am I to know whether they've ever even picked up a camera. Opinions are ok but I need to know they came from someone who knows what they're talking about.
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