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06/09/2002 09:10:28 PM · #1
There is was, in the rules in black and white, and there was even some discussion in the forums banning the use of duotones in this challenge, but there are still five photos in the voting pool that are technically color pics. How hard is this, anyway?

If I had thought that I would have gotten away with it, I'd have submitted one, too.
06/09/2002 09:19:38 PM · #2
It's no surprise...
06/09/2002 09:42:51 PM · #3
I know...I don't think it was mentioned that we had to be in greyscale or simply limited to duotones.

I have a greyscale image because..unfortunately..I don't have a program to give me duotones or I might have submitted mine like that as well :-) Drn it..Somebody send me a full version of Photoshop!!!
06/09/2002 10:30:05 PM · #4
Maybe monochrome would have been a better term. Toning is an accepted part of black and white photography.

He who plays by the rules, dies by the rules.

By the way, mine was greyscale. And no amount of toning would have saved me. And i did not see any that used it effectively.

Originally posted by hokie:
I know...I don't think it was mentioned that we had to be in greyscale or simply limited to duotones.

I have a greyscale image because..unfortunately..I don't have a program to give me duotones or I might have submitted mine like that as well :-) Drn it..Somebody send me a full version of Photoshop!!!



06/10/2002 06:36:29 AM · #5
here are the one's that were in color for those who didn't get it.

It was a dark and stormy night

Westonised

X-Rayed

Lori's Clematis

my big Moo....n!
06/10/2002 06:52:43 AM · #6
I've suggested before that clarifications to the challenge topic made in the forums (like the post cited above) ought to be reflected in a change in the wording of the challenge on the main page. Apparently it was okay to submit non-B/W images, despite that forum post. Playing by the rules and paying attention to the forums shouldn't be a disadvantage.
06/10/2002 08:32:24 AM · #7
Originally posted by irae:
I've suggested before that clarifications to the challenge topic made in the forums (like the post cited above) ought to be reflected in a change in the wording of the challenge on the main page. Apparently it was okay to submit non-B/W images, despite that forum post. Playing by the rules and paying attention to the forums shouldn't be a disadvantage.

Well as one of the people who entered a slightly green toned image, I'd just like to say that I got hammered for it and got my lowest score so far. I don't think any of the toned shots did very well, even though it is a normal part of 'traditional' black and white photography. As someone else mentioned, the pictures just wern't that good that toning could save them :) We'd actually had discussions in the forums about toning and it was never resolved to a clear message, so your comment about reading the forums is a bit unclear.

Btw, I suggested disqualifying all the non-BW shots towards the middle of the week because of the complaints.
06/10/2002 08:42:28 AM · #8
The forum post Thom linked to at the start of this thread runs like this:
"Just a reminder -- this is not a two-tone challenge, it's a black and white challenge. From the challenge wording: "as long as the final result is in black and white". There's really not room for interpretation there. -Drew"

Certainly dissuaded me. I do agree that the word "disadvantage" doesn't really apply in the context of this challenge, as the duotone pics got pretty hammered. Some of them were actually quite good, and I voted accordingly. I still think that posting something like the above on the main page would have helped to clear up the requirements, since duotones/tritones/quadtones are part of the B/W genre.
06/10/2002 08:52:34 AM · #9
Weird part though guys.....

I downloaded all those photos...put them in photoshop..and made them grayscale.

Only the lightning and the moon and x-rayed actually changed colors and I think) for the best.

Westonized, The snail..(also an rgb tone file) La Jolla Canyon, Dunes etc all stayed the same tone so I think they got hammered unfairly.

But hey,,,it''s all for fun anyway.. And Gordon..that was one d@mn awesome shot I don''t care what anyone else voted. :-)

* This message has been edited by the author on 6/10/2002 8:52:59 AM.
06/10/2002 09:07:57 AM · #10
Originally posted by hokie:
Weird part though guys.....

I downloaded all those photos...put them in photoshop..and made them grayscale.

Only the lightning and the moon and x-rayed actually changed colors and I think) for the best.

Westonized


Turned B/W for me.

The snail..(also an rgb tone file)

Grayscale or RGB mode doesn't matter (does it?)

La Jolla Canyon, Dunes etc all stayed the same tone so I think they got hammered unfairly.

Didn't notice any color in these two.

But hey,,,it''s all for fun anyway.. And Gordon..that was one d@mn awesome shot I don''t care what anyone else voted. :-

I hear that.
06/10/2002 09:21:06 AM · #11
irae..your're right..I meant to say westonized changed color:-)

But it would not have affected my vote..an 8 I believe.

I downoaded any photos I suspected of duotones and greayscaled them. Their greyscale image was taken into consideration when I voted and I can say not one photo got a lower vote by doing this.

The moon shot actually got a bit cleaner without the anoying ring on the bottom and the x-ray got very clean.

Westonized changed character a bit but was still an 8 to me :-)
06/10/2002 11:41:16 AM · #12
Well, at least a few people said they noted some color in my Pic, and they were right. Not being so saavy on all these technical terms, i took a Pic and brought it down to Black and White (Greyscale I suppose, but that is just using a combination of blacks and whites isn't it?). I then added a hint of color as i woudl a sepia pic, but I brought the saturation way down, as if i were adding a small drop of tone to a chemical wash.

Only my second pic to enter, but it scored MUCH higher than my first. If these steps violated the idea of black and white, then I guess I am unclear as to the initial intent of the contest. But even if I scored all 1's or was disqualified I was very happy with my pic! :)


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