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02/04/2008 07:30:07 AM · #1
I have the BG-ED3 with my 10D. All I've seen with the 40D is the BG-E2N. I assume I cannot use the ED3 with the 40D? Is this correct? I'm going to be selling my 10D at some point in the near future, and I don't want to sell the grip if it can be used with the 40D.
02/04/2008 07:34:29 AM · #2
That is correct. the BG-ED3 will not work with a 40D, you need the BG-E2 or BG-E2N..

Cheers, Me
02/04/2008 08:37:20 AM · #3
And the E2N is worth getting as it has the same sort of weathersealing - not much but better than none - as the camera itself. I love the thing.

Message edited by author 2008-02-04 08:37:42.
02/04/2008 09:04:39 AM · #4
Why do you want a grip?
Back in the 10D's day you needed the extra battery capacity, but the 40D will run all day (9 hours and 1200 shots) on one battery, no problem (and with IS lenses too).

The only thing it gives you is a shutter button for verticals and in return more weight to carry and a lighter wallet.

Just try the 40D without a grip before you decide it's a necessary item. It does nothing to make your pictures better.
02/04/2008 10:42:17 AM · #5
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

The only thing it gives you is a shutter button for verticals and in return more weight to carry and a lighter wallet.

..It does nothing to make your pictures better.


how do you know what improves his picture taking?

and as for only giving you a shutter and a lighter wallet, it aslo gives extra holding area to stop your fingers dropping off the bottom of the camera if you have large hands ;)

after shooting with a battery grip, i've used a 300 and 350 without one, and find it akward to use, i also don't like tipping my arm in the air when taking a portrait..

some also say it helps balance the camera out when using larger glass..

Message edited by author 2008-02-04 10:44:20.
02/04/2008 10:55:04 AM · #6
Originally posted by Bobster:

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

The only thing it gives you is a shutter button for verticals and in return more weight to carry and a lighter wallet.

..It does nothing to make your pictures better.


how do you know what improves his picture taking?

and as for only giving you a shutter and a lighter wallet, it aslo gives extra holding area to stop your fingers dropping off the bottom of the camera if you have large hands ;)

after shooting with a battery grip, i've used a 300 and 350 without one, and find it akward to use, i also don't like tipping my arm in the air when taking a portrait..

some also say it helps balance the camera out when using larger glass..


The 40D is bigger than the 300/350 and the 20D so a grip is less necessary for large hands than with those bodies.
02/04/2008 10:58:22 AM · #7
I use a grip on my 30D and my 20D. I like the heftier feel and the extra shutter release button. I also like that I NEVER think about batteries. Not after a full day of shooting - not after a full week of shooting. I swap batteries about once every 3 or 4 weeks.

Besides, my camera looks badass with the grip attached. :D


02/04/2008 12:45:20 PM · #8
I took some basketball pictures some time ago, most of which is taken in portrait mode. I can tell you that after 2 hours with the 70-200, I terribly missed the additional shutter release I had on my 350.
02/04/2008 12:50:30 PM · #9
I will be waiting to see if I want a grip with the 40D and also because of the cost.

I just did not want to sell the grip with the 10D if, indeed, it would work with the 40D. I'm trying to figure out how much I will likely sell my equipment for because I'm not going to put it up for sale until I get the cash together to cover the difference in my purchase, and I'm very close to that. I don't want to be without a camera for more than a few weeks max.

I will probably be selling my 10D with the grip and the Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 as a package. I'm thinking of asking $450 for the package. I think with the addition of the lens and the grip, it's probably around that figure.

Anyway...thanks for the info!

02/04/2008 01:04:33 PM · #10
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Why do you want a grip?
Back in the 10D's day you needed the extra battery capacity, but the 40D will run all day (9 hours and 1200 shots) on one battery, no problem (and with IS lenses too).

The only thing it gives you is a shutter button for verticals and in return more weight to carry and a lighter wallet.

Just try the 40D without a grip before you decide it's a necessary item. It does nothing to make your pictures better.


I bought the Grip for my D200 and love it. Now I did get better battery performance from it, but even if I hadn't, I'd have still gotten it. It makes the camera easier to use in portrait shooting, plus it gives it a better overall feel and versatility.

02/04/2008 03:45:59 PM · #11
Originally posted by Bobster:



how do you know what improves his picture taking?
some also say it helps balance the camera out when using larger glass..


The last point is a point I suppose, but I regularly use a 70-200 2.8 IS and it balance fine. The grip just adds even more weight, and after a few hours that makes a big difference.

As to the first part...a grip doesn't increase resolution, shutter speed, drive speed, or reduce noise, add IS or affect any parameter of image quality or camera performance. So IMO it can't improve anyone's picture taking as that's not what it's intended to do. It improves ergonomics when shooting portrait mode and if you're used to that I suppose it's something to consider. I find the wheel and joystick on the 20/30/40 to be a much more worthwhile upgrade over a 300/350/400/450 than the extra shutter button.

A grip runs what, $150? There are things you can buy for $150 or spend another $150 on that will improve one's picture taking. That's all I'm saying.
02/05/2008 05:25:35 AM · #12
Originally posted by idnic:

...I also like that I NEVER think about batteries. Not after a full day of shooting - not after a full week of shooting. I swap batteries about once every 3 or 4 weeks.

Besides, my camera looks badass with the grip attached. :D


Second that, as the guy at the camera store said when I got mine, now it looks like a serious camera. I replied, yeah, shades of the 1D.
02/05/2008 06:15:21 AM · #13
Originally posted by idnic:



Besides, my camera looks badass with the grip attached. :D


Ok, let's cut to the chase here...isn't this the main reason to get a grip! :-P
02/05/2008 09:11:05 AM · #14
I could never find a good way to hold the body by itself and it annoyed me to have my little finger under the body.... The grip is MUCH more comfortable even in landscape for me - with a hand strap it's great and I will never go back. People with smaller slabs of meat for hands might have a different opinion :-) The weight... yeah well, it's a little but I don't mind so much.
02/05/2008 11:09:50 AM · #15
Originally posted by robs:

I could never find a good way to hold the body by itself and it annoyed me to have my little finger under the body.... The grip is MUCH more comfortable even in landscape for me - with a hand strap it's great and I will never go back. People with smaller slabs of meat for hands might have a different opinion :-) The weight... yeah well, it's a little but I don't mind so much.


indeed and i don't notice the weight..

Message edited by author 2008-02-05 11:10:00.
02/05/2008 11:21:06 AM · #16
Originally posted by Bobster:

Originally posted by robs:

I could never find a good way to hold the body by itself and it annoyed me to have my little finger under the body.... The grip is MUCH more comfortable even in landscape for me - with a hand strap it's great and I will never go back. People with smaller slabs of meat for hands might have a different opinion :-) The weight... yeah well, it's a little but I don't mind so much.


indeed and i don't notice the weight..


I agree for the 20D the grip is probably needed for those with larger hands. (20D body is small)

The 40D is a bigger body so is not needed for that purpose. However, as stated earlier in the thread, portrait orientation shots can be made easier with the grip if the grip has an additional shutter button.
02/08/2008 12:44:12 AM · #17
I've been using the Opteka vertical/battery grip ever since I bought my 40D back in September. To me, it makes the camera easier to carry. I also get around 2300-2400 shots between battery charges, which is really nice. Like Cindi said, I don't even think about charging any more, as I always have two more spares with me. Each pair lasts me about a month or more.

I can also rest the side of my left hand/palm against the grip when using my long 300mm lens, for steadiness.

When turned to portrait orientation, the extra dial and shutter button work well and feel very close to the same as the main dial and button.


06/02/2008 11:48:53 PM · #18
Just got a 40d and ordered the BG-E2N Battery Grip immediately. Holy crap was it expensive!! I got my BG-E1 (300d grip) used for $30 from a friend who's 300d broke.

I've used a battery grip for so long, I hate the feel of the camera w/o the grip. It feels so small, and my little finger slips off the bottom frequently, which is a PITA.

I actually measured, and there isn't much height difference between the 300d and 40d w/o the battery grip. From the base of the normal grip to the shutter button on the 300d is 3" and the 40d is 3.25"
06/02/2008 11:51:22 PM · #19
Originally posted by Bobster:

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

The only thing it gives you is a shutter button for verticals and in return more weight to carry and a lighter wallet.

..It does nothing to make your pictures better.


how do you know what improves his picture taking?

and as for only giving you a shutter and a lighter wallet, it aslo gives extra holding area to stop your fingers dropping off the bottom of the camera if you have large hands ;)

after shooting with a battery grip, i've used a 300 and 350 without one, and find it akward to use, i also don't like tipping my arm in the air when taking a portrait..

some also say it helps balance the camera out when using larger glass..


Yup...what he said.

ED: Got mine for a hundred bucks used through KEH.

Message edited by author 2008-06-02 23:52:17.
06/03/2008 01:54:31 AM · #20
Originally posted by lykofos:

...there isn't much height difference between the 300d and 40d w/o the battery grip. From the base of the normal grip to the shutter button on the 300d is 3" and the 40d is 3.25"

1/4" is a BIG difference in DSLRs, IMHO.

By the way, I use a vertical/battery grip on my 40D and absolutely can't shoot without it now. It feels and carries just right.

06/03/2008 02:22:30 AM · #21
Originally posted by AperturePriority:


1/4" is a BIG difference in DSLRs, IMHO.



How much of a difference is it in the P&S world ?
06/03/2008 11:27:29 AM · #22
Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Originally posted by lykofos:

...there isn't much height difference between the 300d and 40d w/o the battery grip. From the base of the normal grip to the shutter button on the 300d is 3" and the 40d is 3.25"

1/4" is a BIG difference in DSLRs, IMHO.

By the way, I use a vertical/battery grip on my 40D and absolutely can't shoot without it now. It feels and carries just right.


I suppose that whether the difference is big or not, is all relative to your hand size. I wear a large/x-large glove.

My little finger measures at 0.68" If it doesn't fit on the 300d, then the extra .25 on the 40d is fairly insignificant. 0.69" - 0.25" = 0.44" (or approx. 65%) of my little finger is not fully on the grip, which makes it very easy for it to slip off / lead to an uncomfortable hand position.

Message edited by author 2008-06-03 11:27:51.
06/03/2008 12:09:12 PM · #23
Just an observation, but the OP is female and those weighing in on the issue seem to be male. :) It might make a slight difference as you guys generally have a bit larger hands. I love the weight of my 40D w/out the battery grip, but I've never had one, so don't know how much extra weight it would add. (Shuts mouth and runs away...) Something to consider. how about going to the camera store and handling one w/a battery grip on just to see?

Message edited by author 2008-06-03 15:14:56.
06/03/2008 01:19:22 PM · #24
I purchased a grip when I got the 40D since I always wanted one for the 20D. I attached it once, used the camera for about an hour and removed it never to be installed again so far. I found it added too much weight if I loaded both batteries in it, was bulky, did not feel comfortable at all, camera would not fit in bag correctly with it on - especially if the tripod mount was attached (usually is all the time).

A single battery lasts a long time in the 40D. I was surprised at how much use one charge allows.
06/03/2008 02:13:12 PM · #25
Just to verify, will the 20D's battery grip will still work on the 40D?
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