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02/01/2008 12:33:39 PM · #26 |
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02/01/2008 12:36:02 PM · #27 |
If asked how much its either "it was so long ago I cant remember" or "it was a gift" and if asked to see it, its the same as my tools, "sorry no, I make my living with this camera" and leave it at that. 99% of people will respect that, that I have found anyway. And I almost always carry a couple sharpened pencils in my kit, there just pencils right? but In a nasty situation they can do wonders to "help you out" so to speak ;)
-dave
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02/01/2008 12:37:17 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I was out in the middle of nowhere Arizona desert doing a spectrometer survey to map some possible uranium-hosting features. There was only one other geologist out there and he was about a kilometre away. We were both on foot, and I was about 200m from the truck. |
I would have probably had a rifle with me in those surroundings just on principle.
I'm not a gun-toting 2nd Amendment quoter, but you're out in an area where you may have to worry about more than just potentially horny rednecks.
Not the least of which might be to eat or summon help.
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02/01/2008 12:47:19 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I was out in the middle of nowhere Arizona desert doing a spectrometer survey to map some possible uranium-hosting features. There was only one other geologist out there and he was about a kilometre away. We were both on foot, and I was about 200m from the truck. |
I would have probably had a rifle with me in those surroundings just on principle.
I'm not a gun-toting 2nd Amendment quoter, but you're out in an area where you may have to worry about more than just potentially horny rednecks.
Not the least of which might be to eat or summon help. |
We didn't have a regular end-of-day check-in, which was pretty bad, but we did keep a big cooler of water in the truck. We knew exactly the ridge where cell reception begins and ends and could have walked along the roads to it in under five or six hours. I was pretty shocked to see other humans out there and was wishing that at least one of us had a gun. Whew, gives me a chill just thinkging about it, ha!
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02/01/2008 12:58:53 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Makes sense but I live in AZ where we have concealed carry and I am 6'8" 260lbs. I fear not as with me it is mostly fight and not much flight. But you do have a good point but like I said the camera never leaves my hands I don't hand it to them at all. |
Not to start a gun debate but if you have concealed carry in your state, don't you think the other person could be carrying as well? And if he is your height and weight is not going to make a big difference.
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02/01/2008 01:04:37 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Makes sense but I live in AZ where we have concealed carry and I am 6'8" 260lbs. I fear not as with me it is mostly fight and not much flight. But you do have a good point but like I said the camera never leaves my hands I don't hand it to them at all. |
Not to start a gun debate but if you have concealed carry in your state, don't you think the other person could be carrying as well? And if he is your height and weight is not going to make a big difference. |
Yup that is right he could and if he was and I was not I would be in real trouble. That is why I carry to make it a fair fight. I will always defend myself to max. I will not live in fear and I will win the fight or die trying and that is that. |
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02/01/2008 01:09:27 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
...and I am 6'8" 260lbs. I fear not as with me it is mostly fight and not much flight. But you do have a good point but like I said the camera never leaves my hands I don't hand it to them at all. |
Well, you have me by an inch and about 5 lbs. Good to meet someone else normal sized on here! :-D
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02/01/2008 01:26:57 PM · #33 |
I tell them "more than I should have spent, but not as much as I'd like". When they push me for details I tell them the prices change all the time, but they can call a store or Google a Dwhatever I'm shooting that day and see what they go for now.
I'm a NFL-lineman of an individual too. I seldom worry about these encounters - but I am aware that weapons really have no prejudice on how large of an individual they are puncturing.
I ride motorcycles alone all through the western US, and run into people all the time in areas where I'm quite sure I will be alone. For the most part I'm totally fine with who I meet and count 98% of them as friends when we part company.
However there are always those dicey encounters too. Sure makes photography more fun. |
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02/01/2008 01:30:26 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
I got it on ebay for a few hundred... |
I think this sums it up nicely.... |
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02/01/2008 01:40:09 PM · #35 |
People don't approach me for some reason. |
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02/01/2008 02:16:50 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by JustinM:
Originally posted by Gordon:
I got it on ebay for a few hundred... |
I think this sums it up nicely.... |
hmm ? |
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02/01/2008 02:22:02 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by citymars:
What do you say when people ask to see your camera, or ask how much you paid? |
I always tell people..."I'm sorry I don't know how much it cost. It's not mine...I borrowed it!"
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02/01/2008 02:25:29 PM · #38 |
| "it's an old model so it's not much" |
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02/01/2008 02:31:46 PM · #39 |
This is pretty much my thinking as well. If you're going to get robbed or beaten up, odds are the preceding conversation isn't going to matter much.
Originally posted by levyj413:
I think you can either go through life assuming the worst of everyone you don't know or relax and enjoy the ride, knowing full well you might, possibly, have a bad experience. |
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02/01/2008 02:42:34 PM · #40 |
How much did you pay for it?
"Nothing - I stole it" |
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02/01/2008 02:48:47 PM · #41 |
| "It's a little more expensive than the 9mm I'm holding in my pocket. Any other questions?" |
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02/01/2008 02:53:57 PM · #42 |
Somehow I don't think the answer to that question will determine whether or not I'm going to get robbed.
I, too, like to think that most people are decent, but just in case I should come across one of the foul apples, I have my gear insured so I know my safety can come first and I won't be too tempted to get in trouble over a camera. |
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02/01/2008 03:05:03 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by hopper:
This is pretty much my thinking as well. If you're going to get robbed or beaten up, odds are the preceding conversation isn't going to matter much.
Originally posted by levyj413:
I think you can either go through life assuming the worst of everyone you don't know or relax and enjoy the ride, knowing full well you might, possibly, have a bad experience. |
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I wish I could think that way, I really do. If this were just about my camera being robbed from me and me getting a couple lumps or bruises then it wouldn't really concern me b/c I have insurance on all my equipment and the human body does a remarklable job of healing. The truth of the matter, to me, is the risk to my life. There are people out there that will kill you for the change you have in your pocket much less two cameras and a backback full of equipment. Hell, there are people who will kill you for no other reason then you being at the wrong place at the wrong time. I feel that I owe it to my wife and child to give myself the best chance of coming home to them and providing for their well being. Yes, I have a permit to carry a gun but that's the last thing I want to do is have to pull that thing out, why? Because that means I've gotten myself in a life or death situation and there is no guarantee that it's going to save my life at that point, but it does give me an edge. My instructor for my permit made a great point, don't rely on the gun to get you out of a situation, rely on yourself to keep you out of the situation. You can't always avoid a dangerous situations, hence the reason I arm myself, but you can avoid alot through awareness. I'm going through this life as a hawk and not a dove, if I'm going out I'm going out with a fight. |
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02/01/2008 03:05:55 PM · #44 |
Carrying a backpack like this tends to deflect a lot of questions:
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02/01/2008 03:07:16 PM · #45 |
| when ever some one asks me about my camera gear I just tell the truth if they ask the question intending to steal they are going to steal it no matter what you say it costs as its a pretty well known fact that cameras aren't cheap and are easy to resell. If I am worried about my camera being stolen because of the area I am in I will usually keep it in my camera bag when I'm not shooting. The best defense from your gear getting stolen in my opinion is having a camera bag that doesn't look like a camera bag and going shooting with another person. That and a rocket propelled grenade launcher but who can fit that in their camera bag when your also carrying a 70-200? |
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02/01/2008 03:11:37 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by bradshaw:
That and a rocket propelled grenade launcher but who can fit that in their camera bag when your also carrying a 70-200? |
Can't you buy the grenade launcher that attaches to the bottom of that? |
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02/01/2008 03:16:51 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
I think you can either go through life assuming the worst of everyone you don't know or relax and enjoy the ride, knowing full well you might, possibly, have a bad experience. I choose the latter. |
Nice philosophy. I didn't mean to give the impression that I live in constant fear.
Originally posted by levyj413:
If you think someone's going to run with your camera in a crowded coffee shop... |
Well, when you put it that way... LOL. No, seriously, it wasn't like that. Ah, well, never mind. :-/
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02/01/2008 03:28:17 PM · #48 |
"I don't know, my 6'8" 300 pound gay lover with an insane temper and due back any minute gave it to me as a present"
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02/01/2008 03:31:08 PM · #49 |
I was mugged a couple of years ago for a Nikon coolpix 880! (awesome first digi-cam)
It was in a bag and someone came up behind me and put something cold (allegedly a gun) on my neck. "Give me the F--king purse!" -- He thought it was a purse (I'm skinny but I don't think I looked too girly :). Anyway there it went, and he didn't even know what it was!!!
Now I get a lil' nervous alone in Cleveland in sketchy areas with a D300. I think about the question all the time - what to do, what to say. I think I'm going to say "It's an old film camera from my Dad" --
but generally if someone determines the value of your item with the question about price, unfortunately he/she probably doesn't have the photo skills to pay bills - so I don't wanna flatter them with a real answer - especially when I need to include a caveat "The camera was $19XX after tax, the memory card was $120 and the lens was $7XX ... do you want to steal it from me???"
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02/01/2008 03:43:15 PM · #50 |
thats the advantage of having a big, old, clunky 1dMkII - everyone thinks its old and worthless because its so big
'you know you can get smaller cameras these days' |
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