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01/29/2008 10:14:41 AM · #1 |
From this thread, but I thought it deserved it's own.
The US copyright office is beta testing an option for uploading digital files directly to them and paying the fees online. (Read about this in the Feb 2008 Popular Photography)
The site to register as a beta tester is //www.copyright.gov if anyone is interested. It takes a couple of days for them to get back to you, telling you how to create your account and I have not tried uploading anything until I get a little more organized, but I thought y'all might be interested.
Has anyone else signed up for this as a beta tester? Uploaded anything? Got a story to share with regards to how well the beta works? |
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01/29/2008 11:18:18 AM · #2 |
that's interesting... gonna go check this out.
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01/29/2008 11:20:37 AM · #3 |
| Yes, I submitted an application but haven't heard from them yet. |
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01/29/2008 12:51:10 PM · #4 |
| I submitted an application some time ago and was accepted but have not used it yet. I simply havent taken the time to go through and thumbnail a group of images for submission. |
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01/29/2008 01:41:05 PM · #5 |
how is the fee handled? $45 gets you what? unlimited uploads for a period of time? A certain amount? A certain size?
This seems pertinent too as it seems to be for both electronic and paper. Don't know if I'm misreading it, but wouldn't it seem that the days of submitting 2000 thumbs for $45 are over?
EDIT: Sorry, I forgot the quote I thought was pertinent:
Sometime between October 1, 2007, and January 1, 2008: The Office will charge a fee for contents titles listed on an application for a collection, for example, for the titles of songs contained on an album. The Office will include these titles in its public registration records to make them more comprehensive and more useful to those who search the records. A fee will be charged for each title: $1 for each contents title in an electronic filing: $3 for each contents title on a paper application.
Message edited by author 2008-01-29 13:50:53.
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01/29/2008 01:48:01 PM · #6 |
I'm curious of how they handle collections of images too...
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01/29/2008 02:17:01 PM · #7 |
It really doesn't have a lot of information on their web site. But with the limitation of uploading images to a 30 minute window at a time, I think I'll continue to send in CD's for awhile. I usually send in thousands of images at a time on a single VA form, and burning it to CD is real easy. Maybe once they open it up and I have a quick job of a images that I want to get registered right away, it will be worth trying out. It's a great idea though and I hope it comes on line soon and they don't change the price structure of how they charge for multiple submissions at a time.
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01/29/2008 03:34:07 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
I'm curious of how they handle collections of images too... |
From their website, they are accepting Basic Registrations only for now. This is defined as:
1.Any single work; or,
2.Multiple unpublished works if they are all by the same author and owned by the same claimant; or,
3.Multiple published works if they are all published together in the same publication on the same date and are all owned by the same claimant.
The article I read (which I can't find online) stated that collections of unlimited size would be accepted, but that "means breaking them up into many transmissions, requiring a 19th century level of patience."
The one nice thing about this (IMHO) is that the fee is $35 per unlimited size collection instead of the normal $45 per CD. |
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01/29/2008 03:59:26 PM · #9 |
| What exactly does published mean? Pics that we post in our DPC portfolio, do those count as being published? |
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01/29/2008 04:15:02 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Techo:
What exactly does published mean? Pics that we post in our DPC portfolio, do those count as being published? |
Yes, somewhere on the site it stated that published included documents released for public viewing (o words to that effect).
I have to say it is an incredibly confusing site. From what i can gather, to be effective in a court of law, works must be registered within three months of publication. Collections can be registered, but it implies this is as a single entity and not the individual components. Works should retain the title with which they were registered. Registration does not cover the full period of copyright - 'Registrants who wish to ensure that the Copyright Office will keep their published deposits for the full length of the copyright term must pay a fee of $425 to cover processing and storage costs'. |
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01/29/2008 07:05:04 PM · #11 |
Published does NOT mean an image that was viewed by the public on web sites or even in publications. What Published means is that if you sold, rented, leased, or had someone sell, rent, or lease your images, it's considered Published... in other words, if you made money on it, it's probably going to be considered Published. The mear act of letting others see it does not make it fall under the guidelines of Published. That is basicly how the Copyright Office explained it to me when I asked them that question a few years ago.
So as long as your image has not been Published as they define it, you can still register your images and get the special benifits that this brings. Once you have done something that makes them considered Published, then you only have 90 days from that point to get them registered and still get the special benifits and protection that registration brings. You also have to have your image registered BEFORE an infringement to get the special benifits (read, LOTS of teeth in your claim of infringement) on a claim against that infringement. If you don't have it registered before, you still have to have it registered before you can take them to court over infringement... and then it's going to cost you out of your pocket to do this.
Mike
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