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02/24/2004 09:23:58 AM · #1
I notice from a couple of threads that I've been browsing, that both jjbeguin and dsidwell are colourblind.

Not sure what to make of that, but seeing as they have 34 (read it) ribbons between them, it's evidently not an impediment. I'm curious as to whether it aids a graphical and textural perception of the world - and whether the rest of us are perhaps too easily colour-dominated and perhaps struggle more to see through to the other elements.

Whatever, just thought I'd point it out.

E
02/24/2004 09:48:53 AM · #2
Just to clarify, David is red/green colorblind (JJ too?), he has more trouble with red than anything, which occasionally causes problems when he's adjusting colors in PS. In his "desert moonlight" shot there is a red pixel (star?) in the middle of the shot that he didn't see at all, which I pointed out to him after the voting had started.' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/176/thumb/54599.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/176/thumb/54599.jpg', '/') + 1) . ' Then in his "Breaking Free" image you can clearly see a finger in the right side of the frame that blended in with the milk weed to him, he didn't notice it at all. ' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/140/thumb/38088.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/140/thumb/38088.jpg', '/') + 1) . '
So he keeps threatening to just do duotone shots, but he's done so many beautiful color shots, despite his handicap, I hope he won't give up. Anyway, if anyone else out there is colo(u)rblind, you're in good company with JJ and David.
02/24/2004 10:17:58 AM · #3
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Whoa! There's a red pixel in there somewhere? One of the most difficult things about that shot was that when I adjusted the contrast and curves toward blue, PS made everything purple. I had to really fiddle to get it back to blue.

One thing I've noticed because I'm colorblind is that I'm very sensitive to tones; I like them deep and rich. Also, darker images appeal to me because the tones are usually richer and the colors easier to see.

My wife is always telling me 'that's too red!' or 'that looks weird' or 'why is everything green?' As you may know, Photoshop has many ways of secretly shifting colors when you just want to add some contrast or darken the neutrals. I'm sometimes oblivious to such changes. I'll sometimes get my daughter to see a photo I'm working on and I'll ask her, 'what color is that?'--like with the night shot, and she'll say, 'purple'. I'll say, 'Not blue?' 'Nope.' Then without making any changes, I'll ask my other daughter, 'What color is that?'

'Blue'

'Not purple'

'Well there's purple'

'So is it purple or blue?'

'Blue'

'Not purple?'

'No, it's purple'

'But you just said it was blue!'

'Yeah.'

'(Grrrrrrrrrr . . . wishy washy color-seeing people!)'

Hey, check out these shots, and let me know if the colors are weird. They have not been 'wife approved'. You may get a taste of what happens in my eyes!

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02/24/2004 11:01:49 AM · #4
My father is colorblind. He has the version called (I think) red-green perception. He can see red. He can see green. Sometimes he has issues differentiating them when they are together. Its interesting to watch him work on his electronic equipment. He carries a green camera filter with him everywhere he goes so he can use it to help him distinguish LED colors.

In his particular case, He actually sees the color, but the color information is not relayed correctly, or it is mistranslated by his brain... hence it's a 'perception' of the color problem rather than not being able to see it.

02/24/2004 11:36:27 AM · #5
Originally posted by dsidwell:


Hey, check out these shots, and let me know if the colors are weird. They have not been 'wife approved'. You may get a taste of what happens in my eyes!


They look fine to me! (uh... but then, I am also colorblind...)

I am officially red/green colorblind, but have the most problems making distinctions between green/brown and blue/purple.

I hate doing those dot color tests with people - they seem amazed that I can't see the number "6" in the middle of all those dots when it just jumps right out at them.

And yes, it does suck to be into photography and be colorblind.

Dave
02/24/2004 04:47:22 PM · #6
Another fine dpc photographer who is partially colorblind is ScottK, two ribbons.

Message edited by author 2004-02-24 16:54:16.
02/24/2004 05:32:06 PM · #7
Before I had to chose in which direction I want to go to high school, I had to make those tests, and doctors said to me that I can't see green color.I wasn't even sure that I can't see it, cause i see all of the colours. I was so pissed up, cause I wanted to go to Electro-school and I couldn't do it. After some advanced tests I was able to go there and I was so happy that some doctors didn't torn my dream apart. I can hardly see that number 6 in that test, but I see it if I try really hard. I think that jjbeguin and dsidwell are the perfect example that this "defect" doesn't count in photographie if someone has talent! Good luck to all the people who are partialy colourblind!
02/24/2004 06:59:38 PM · #8
Originally posted by dsa157:

I am officially red/green colorblind, but have the most problems making distinctions between green/brown and blue/purple.

Me too ... my experiences are much like dsidwell's -- I often adjust for tone and "ignore" color.
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02/24/2004 08:01:08 PM · #9
Originally posted by dsa157:

They look fine to me! (uh... but then, I am also colorblind...)

I am officially red/green colorblind, but have the most problems making distinctions between green/brown and blue/purple.

I hate doing those dot color tests with people - they seem amazed that I can't see the number "6" in the middle of all those dots when it just jumps right out at them.

And yes, it does suck to be into photography and be colorblind.

Dave


...and don't you hate it when people who know you're colorblind start pointing at things saying "what color is this" and "what color is that"? I've taken to picking some obvious color that it's not and answering that. Or else I'll just answer black or white. :)

Harvey - Thanks, I appreciate the compliment! Though... to be mentioned in the same thread as JJ and David, I feel a little like Wayne and Garth: I'm not worthy! ;)

(Harvey (coolhar) commented on my Garage Art shot about the purple in the solder - I had inadvertantly added that, either when messing with levels or selective color, and didn't even know. Oh, well, guess it worked!)
02/24/2004 08:07:01 PM · #10
Originally posted by tkalect:

Before I had to chose in which direction I want to go to high school, I had to make those tests, and doctors said to me that I can't see green color.I wasn't even sure that I can't see it, cause i see all of the colours. I was so pissed up, cause I wanted to go to Electro-school and I couldn't do it. After some advanced tests I was able to go there and I was so happy that some doctors didn't torn my dream apart.


That's a great story. Mine had the opposite ending: As a kid, my dream was to grow up and be a pilot in the Air Force. My dad, being in the Air Force, put an end to that dream pretty quick - because of the issues of being able to read the different colored lights and controls in a cockpit, colorblind people aren't accepted as pilots. (He has also told a story of a guy he knew who wanted to be a pilot so bad, he memorized the color tests. He was accepted and made it most of the way through the training before he was found out.)
02/24/2004 08:13:01 PM · #11
We all just thought that the red pixel was the red planet(Mars).
Its sure must be hard when this kind of thing effects ones goals!

Message edited by author 2004-02-24 20:17:17.
02/24/2004 09:04:30 PM · #12
I am also red/green colorblind, as with most everybody else, I run everything past my girlfriend before showing everybody, otherwise, I end up with pink trees and green sunsets.. As an aside, I am also taking a painting class.. The fun with that is you get to turn the tables on the person who can see in color, by making *them* tell *you* what color something is, so you can paint it.. Mostly though, I avoid levels and curves, because I am colorblind, and can't see how badly I am messing up a picture..
02/25/2004 12:25:04 AM · #13
Originally posted by Dim7:

We all just thought that the red pixel was the red planet(Mars).
Its sure must be hard when this kind of thing effects ones goals!


In looking at the original, it IS something, and it's something red. I doubt it's Mars, but there are different colors of stars out there, and there are particles in the air. When I increased contrast, I'm sure the red just popped out. I sure didn't (and don't) see it, though, unless I'm really close.
10/09/2004 11:43:42 AM · #14
Originally posted by dsa157:


I hate doing those dot color tests with people - they seem amazed that I can't see the number "6" in the middle of all those dots when it just jumps right out at them.

And yes, it does suck to be into photography and be colorblind.

Dave

oops (body of my message disapeard; have to retype)

I am partially colour blind too. In the first set of colour tests, I can see all but the six. In the second cirle, I can see six groupings of blue/green dots loosely in the shape of the number five. What amazes my friends even more is when I drive though a Red light because I didn't see it.

James

Message edited by author 2004-10-09 11:48:17.
10/09/2004 12:24:01 PM · #15
Me too...I have a hard time seeing purple it's all blue to me. Reds, greens, and browns of similar shades all bled together. Yellow is my favorite colour....It's always yellow. I have a theory that not everyone sees the same colours. Kinda like the colour wheel gets turned to one side or the other. And that we only know them as being the same because thatís what we where told when we were younger. Can't prove it but thatís what I suspect.
10/09/2004 01:08:41 PM · #16
Dsidwell, jjbegium, dsa157.... hmm. That's 38 ribbons among three people who aren't even using the whole spectrum. Maybe WE are the ones with the handicap?

Message edited by author 2004-10-09 13:09:59.
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