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12/31/2007 12:22:43 AM · #51
Originally posted by justamistere:

So the type of time lapsed motion/action captures similar to what's been done by the famous photographer named "Eadweard J. Muybridge (April 9, 1830 May 8, 1904)", is legel now???

Little did he know, that he was the actual inventor of animated .gif
(Wow, that's my birthday, too. April-9)


Eadweard J. Muybridge examples

Is this what is going to be legal?
12/31/2007 12:24:01 AM · #52
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Sooo, no multiple selves?


Not unless there are actually two of you *shudder*

~Terry


LMAO, fair enough :-D


OK so you can't take a pic of someone running because it will be multiple selves as well as time lapse but it could be the moon in multiple locations to denote a time lapse. I am struggling with this a bit...
12/31/2007 12:24:22 AM · #53
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

Originally posted by justamistere:

So the type of time lapsed motion/action captures similar to what's been done by the famous photographer named "Eadweard J. Muybridge (April 9, 1830 May 8, 1904)", is legel now???

Little did he know, that he was the actual inventor of animated .gif
(Wow, that's my birthday, too. April-9)


Eadweard J. Muybridge examples

Is this what is going to be legal?


My guess would be yes but the images would have to be stacked into one final image.

Message edited by author 2007-12-31 00:24:33.
12/31/2007 12:31:08 AM · #54
Originally posted by jbsmithana:

Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

Eadweard J. Muybridge examples

Is this what is going to be legal?


My guess would be yes but the images would have to be stacked into one final image.

That's my understanding of it. And to answer Wazoo... you COULD take a series of someone running (natural motion), but you couldn't do something like this because the rule is not "intended to allow a subject to appear in multiple, arranged places within a scene."
12/31/2007 12:31:47 AM · #55
Originally posted by jbsmithana:

Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

Originally posted by justamistere:

So the type of time lapsed motion/action captures similar to what's been done by the famous photographer named "Eadweard J. Muybridge (April 9, 1830 May 8, 1904)", is legel now???

Little did he know, that he was the actual inventor of animated .gif
(Wow, that's my birthday, too. April-9)


Eadweard J. Muybridge examples

Is this what is going to be legal?


My guess would be yes but the images would have to be stacked into one final image.


That's my guess, too. Imagine this shot without the white lines:
' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/0-999/673/120/504951.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/0-999/673/120/504951.jpg', '/') + 1) . '

Message edited by author 2007-12-31 00:32:20.
12/31/2007 12:32:59 AM · #56
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Sooo, no multiple selves?


Not unless there are actually two of you *shudder*

~Terry


LMAO, fair enough :-D


OK so you can't take a pic of someone running because it will be multiple selves as well as time lapse but it could be the moon in multiple locations to denote a time lapse. I am struggling with this a bit...


As Shannon said, you'll probably get varying opinions on this. My personal opinion is that a time lapse of someone running would probably be ok. Something like this certainly would not: ' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/5000-9999/5728/120/65205.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/5000-9999/5728/120/65205.jpg', '/') + 1) . '

That said, I rarely vote on DQs, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.*

~Terry

* - See back label for sodium content
12/31/2007 12:33:19 AM · #57
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by jbsmithana:

Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

Eadweard J. Muybridge examples

Is this what is going to be legal?


My guess would be yes but the images would have to be stacked into one final image.

That's my understanding of it. And to answer Wazoo... you COULD take a series of someone running (natural motion), but you couldn't do something like this because the rule is not "intended to allow a subject to appear in multiple, arranged places within a scene."


Okay. And you couldn't selectively erase the subject from some of them because that'd be removing a major feature. Gotcha.
12/31/2007 12:37:10 AM · #58
Next question: how about a time-lapse where you face south in the northern hemisphere winter, so the sun is visible in the frame throughout the day, and:
- capture A is at dawn, with the sun on the far left and the middle/right sky dark
- capture B is at noon, with the sun centered
- capture C is at dusk, with middle/right sky dark

can you then selectively change the opacity so you see three suns and the sky fading from dark on the left to blue in the middle to dark on the right?

This is NOT a hypothetical. It's an example of the kinds of very cool shots I'm now imagining.

Oh, and thanks to Langdon and the SC! These are all great improvements!
12/31/2007 12:41:35 AM · #59
Originally posted by levyj413:

Next question: how about a time-lapse where you face south in the northern hemisphere winter, so the sun is visible in the frame throughout the day, and:
- capture A is at dawn, with the sun on the far left and the middle/right sky dark
- capture B is at noon, with the sun centered
- capture C is at dusk, with middle/right sky dark

can you then selectively change the opacity so you see three suns and the sky fading from dark on the left to blue in the middle to dark on the right?

Interesting. Yes, I suppose that would be fine. Honestly, time-lapse was a bit of a wild card in our discussions, so we'll have to see what kind of Pandora's Box this opens with all you creative types out there. The current challenge will be a major test of the new rules.
12/31/2007 12:42:15 AM · #60
One more q for the flood: I can take shots as far apart as I like, right? And it needn't be the same time lapse between them? Two shots 1 second apart, followed by another a day later, and another 3 days after that, with one more after 29 more seconds? As long as my tripod stays put and I don't control movement into and out of the frame?
12/31/2007 12:47:27 AM · #61
Originally posted by levyj413:

One more q for the flood: I can take shots as far apart as I like, right? And it needn't be the same time lapse between them? Two shots 1 second apart, followed by another a day later, and another 3 days after that, with one more after 29 more seconds? As long as my tripod stays put and I don't control movement into and out of the frame?


Within the limits of the challenge dates, that is correct.

~Terry
12/31/2007 12:49:34 AM · #62
A shot a day through the week? That kind of time lapse will be okay?

I typed before seeing the answer.... Ignore me, thanks! :)

Message edited by author 2007-12-31 00:50:07.
12/31/2007 12:49:41 AM · #63
I'm beginning to understand.

Eraser tool would be ok for the motion of your subject.

It's up to the discretion of the photographer if they want framed time lapse or not.

Stitching doesn't come into play really.

As long as there are no more than 10 frames involved, the moving subject must be within the same, continuous frame, no matter if photography was taken all on day one of the challenge, or all seven days of the challenge.

Is this correct?
12/31/2007 12:50:41 AM · #64
Originally posted by levyj413:

One more q for the flood: I can take shots as far apart as I like, right?

Well, the object is to show progression of a single natural motion, so if it were a very slow motion (like your sunrise - sunset example), then it would be fine. I don't think you could photograph the same action sequence a dozen times and just pull out the best 10 frames though, because it wouldn't really be a time lapse of a natural motion IMO, but other SC will have to weigh in on that one.
12/31/2007 12:51:16 AM · #65
Shannon, I was typing this as you wrote your last response. I understand your point about natural motion, but within that constraint, the shots needn't be consecutive, right?

I could set up my tripod, take a shot, download it to my computer, leave the tripod in the same spot, go shoot a bunch of other stuff, come back, put it back on the tripod, rinse and repeat up to 10 times within the challenge dates?

Message edited by author 2007-12-31 00:52:26.
12/31/2007 12:52:07 AM · #66
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

I'm beginning to understand.

Eraser tool would be ok for the motion of your subject.

It's up to the discretion of the photographer if they want framed time lapse or not.

Stitching doesn't come into play really.

As long as there are no more than 10 frames involved, the moving subject must be within the same, continuous frame, no matter if photography was taken all on day one of the challenge, or all seven days of the challenge.

Is this correct?


I don't understand the "framed time lapse" statement, can you rephrase it?

The rest are all correct.

~Terry
12/31/2007 12:53:00 AM · #67
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

I'm beginning to understand.

Eraser tool would be ok for the motion of your subject.


I don't understand the "framed time lapse" statement, can you rephrase it?

The rest are all correct.

~Terry


Eh? I can erase my subject in some of the frames?
12/31/2007 12:54:59 AM · #68
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:



I don't understand the "framed time lapse" statement, can you rephrase it?

The rest are all correct.

~Terry


I mean whether or not a person wants to add frames between images, as opposed to just erasing amongst the layers of images to show the progression of motion.

x as opposed to Y if you get my drift.

Like this ' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/0-999/673/120/504951.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/0-999/673/120/504951.jpg', '/') + 1) . '

Message edited by author 2007-12-31 00:55:59.
12/31/2007 12:56:20 AM · #69
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:



I don't understand the "framed time lapse" statement, can you rephrase it?

The rest are all correct.

~Terry


I mean whether or not a person wants to add frames between images, as opposed to just erasing amongst the layers of images to show the progression of motion.

x as opposed to Y if you get my drift.


Good question. I'm not sure about that one. Hopefully someone else can answer.

~Terry
12/31/2007 12:57:52 AM · #70
Ok, here is my question. I wish other thread would stay open though...

[thumb]627563[/thumb]

I did this with few shots and editing in PS... Is it the way everyone does it, or is there an option in the camera that I don't know shoot multiple shots in same frame?

I just don't know how it is done, I did it my way, seems like working, but again, this is Photoshop editing of multiple frames :)
12/31/2007 12:58:41 AM · #71
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

I mean whether or not a person wants to add frames between images, as opposed to just erasing amongst the layers of images to show the progression of motion.

I would say no. The rule on frames hasn't changed- "You may... add a border to the outside edge of your entry."
12/31/2007 12:59:38 AM · #72
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

I mean whether or not a person wants to add frames between images, as opposed to just erasing amongst the layers of images to show the progression of motion.

I would say no. The rule on frames hasn't changed- "You may... add a border to the outside edge of your entry."


I am now at par.

thanks.

Message edited by author 2007-12-31 00:59:53.
12/31/2007 01:00:55 AM · #73
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

[thumb]627563[/thumb]

I did this with few shots and editing in PS...

Yes, that's HOW you would do it, but that particular shot would be illegal since it's not a natural movement, but a subject arranged in different frames.
12/31/2007 01:01:22 AM · #74
This and the new challenge may actually bring me out of my semi-retirement thanks!
12/31/2007 01:03:05 AM · #75
Originally posted by scalvert:

...Yes, that's HOW you would do it, but that particular shot would be illegal since it's not a natural movement, but a subject arranged in different frames.


Got it... thanks ;)
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