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12/28/2007 10:27:38 AM · #1
The image formerly in first place has been disqualified for failure to provide an original.

Congratulations to ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_N.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21_N.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Techo on his new yellow ribbon, and the others who moved up a place.
12/28/2007 11:16:27 AM · #2
Can't believe nobody requested that image be validated during voting.
12/28/2007 11:17:44 AM · #3
Just out of curiousity, why?
12/28/2007 11:22:11 AM · #4
It looks like vignetting might've been added. Not saying it was - just looks like it.
12/28/2007 11:27:24 AM · #5
Oh bummer for him. Without making a judgement one way or another on the photo.... 'tis the season for holiday travel, and I wonder if he isn't just off skiing in the Alps or something. Though, if that were the case with me I would've sent an original and editing steps ahead of time, just in case. But he may not have been aware of that step.
12/28/2007 11:36:20 AM · #6
We had corresponded with the photographer a couple of times before the dq happened. He was able to explain what happened to the original.
12/28/2007 11:45:52 AM · #7
Doh! Oops!
12/28/2007 11:47:17 AM · #8
Originally posted by Phil:

It looks like vignetting might've been added. Not saying it was - just looks like it.


It could have been a result of "light effects - default" which I have no idea what it is or if it is legal. I do agree it looks like there is a gradient there, but perhaps it was legally placed (or isn't really there after all)?
12/28/2007 11:50:15 AM · #9
Doubt there should be a bunch of speculation, as Adrian did state in his comments:

"But I got a problem.. can't submit original picture.. sorry if I'll disappoint anyone."

12/28/2007 01:04:18 PM · #10
Does anybody know what "light effects" actually is or at least what PP program it comes from?
12/28/2007 01:06:33 PM · #11
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Does anybody know what "light effects" actually is or at least what PP program it comes from?


My guess is:

[thumb]626614[/thumb]
12/28/2007 01:28:19 PM · #12
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Does anybody know what "light effects" actually is or at least what PP program it comes from?


My guess is:

[thumb]626614[/thumb]


If that's what it is, it's absolutely not legal for basic editing...

R.
12/28/2007 01:57:37 PM · #13
Originally posted by Brad:

Doubt there should be a bunch of speculation, as Adrian did state in his comments:

"But I got a problem.. can't submit original picture.. sorry if I'll disappoint anyone."


And that's exactly what the reason for DQ states. So, indeed, no reason to speculate. Let's assume he deleted it by accident and save the guy a lengthy discussion on probable other reasons or illegal actions.

Let's face it, loosing a ribon through DQ is painfull enough as it is.
12/28/2007 01:58:48 PM · #14
Originally posted by mark_u_U:

Originally posted by Brad:

Doubt there should be a bunch of speculation, as Adrian did state in his comments:

"But I got a problem.. can't submit original picture.. sorry if I'll disappoint anyone."


And that's exactly what the reason for DQ states. So, indeed, no reason to speculate. Let's assume he deleted it by accident and save the guy a lengthy discussion on probable other reasons or illegal actions.

Let's face it, loosing a ribon through DQ is painfull enough as it is.


But to lose your second because nobody tipped you off that "light effects" was illegal would be even worse, eh?
12/28/2007 02:04:03 PM · #15
Originally posted by DrAchoo:


But to lose your second because nobody tipped you off that "light effects" was illegal would be even worse, eh?


I assume you mean "to lose another ribbon because..." right? So here it is, from the basic Rules:

You May:

• use filters or stand-alone utilities designed to preserve image integrity (such as Neat Image, Unsharp Mask, Dust & Scratches, and color correction tools). These filters must be applied uniformly to the entire image, and must not be used in such a way that their use becomes a feature. No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur.


R.
12/28/2007 02:06:37 PM · #16
Originally posted by DrAchoo:


But to lose your second because nobody tipped you off that "light effects" was illegal would be even worse, eh?


Had to think twice to understand what you're saying.

Yes you are right.

Nevertheless, that is only relevant if he did use the effect AND accidently lossed his original, which I find highly unlikely.

:)
12/28/2007 02:11:30 PM · #17
Originally posted by mark_u_U:


Nevertheless, that is only relevant if he did use the effect AND accidently lossed his original, which I find highly unlikely.


Why? He's posted to the forums once, 25 months ago. He's entered 10 challenges total. He's never had an image up for validation before that I can see. He's not a native English speaker. It's perfectly possible he just didn't know any better and edited directly on his original JPG and saved it. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened to someone.

R.
12/28/2007 02:27:21 PM · #18
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by mark_u_U:


Nevertheless, that is only relevant if he did use the effect AND accidently lossed his original, which I find highly unlikely.


Why? He's posted to the forums once, 25 months ago. He's entered 10 challenges total. He's never had an image up for validation before that I can see. He's not a native English speaker. It's perfectly possible he just didn't know any better and edited directly on his original JPG and saved it. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened to someone.

R.


Yep, I agree. But that's only one half of the condition. :)

ETA 1: Besides, you are now doing exactly what I opposed to, spinning out the guy and his history in public. It's painfull enough as it is, isn't it?

ETA2: If everybody is so concerned with the second time he'll loose a ribbon, why not send him a pm rather than to discuss it over and over at the forum.

Message edited by author 2007-12-28 14:30:58.
12/28/2007 02:38:08 PM · #19
Well, partly for selfish reasons. If there is an effect that can achieve this and is legal...I wanna know about it so I can use it. :)
12/28/2007 02:56:43 PM · #20
Actually I feel bad for the person, but at the same time glad it was brought up a bit here. Now I'll be more carefull about preserving my original in the off chance I ever make ribbon quality photo's.

Message edited by author 2007-12-28 14:57:17.
12/28/2007 02:58:53 PM · #21
Originally posted by mark_u_U:

Besides, you are now doing exactly what I opposed to, spinning out the guy and his history in public. It's painfull enough as it is, isn't it?


Well yeah, but I'm DEFENDING him.

R.
12/28/2007 03:09:00 PM · #22
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by mark_u_U:

Besides, you are now doing exactly what I opposed to, spinning out the guy and his history in public. It's painfull enough as it is, isn't it?


Well yeah, but I'm DEFENDING him.

R.


With friends like that...

:P

;)
12/28/2007 03:10:02 PM · #23
Originally posted by mark_u_U:

ETA2: If everybody is so concerned with the second time he'll loose a ribbon, why not send him a pm rather than to discuss it over and over at the forum.


Sure he can be PMed but that only helps him. Discussing it in a forum helps everyone. When I first got here the forums and the photographer comments is where I learned about what you can and can't do in the challenges. I can assure you he isn't the only person that may be confused about what's allowed. Threads like this are most helpful. I really don't see why discussing this is an issue. Nobody is calling him names.
12/28/2007 03:15:44 PM · #24
Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by mark_u_U:

ETA2: If everybody is so concerned with the second time he'll loose a ribbon, why not send him a pm rather than to discuss it over and over at the forum.


Sure he can be PMed but that only helps him. Discussing it in a forum helps everyone. When I first got here the forums and the photographer comments is where I learned about what you can and can't do in the challenges. I can assure you he isn't the only person that may be confused about what's allowed. Threads like this are most helpful. I really don't see why discussing this is an issue. Nobody is calling him names.


hmmm okay, good point.
12/28/2007 03:24:06 PM · #25
Originally posted by mark_u_U:

With friends like that...


Out of curiosity, what did I say that's even remotely negative?

R.
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