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12/17/2007 05:13:52 AM · #1
Why was 31.gif onar photo DQ'ed? Was there TOO much vignetting to it or something?

620977.jpg
12/17/2007 06:27:50 AM · #2
Good question...

Nothing seems to stand out as a rule breaker?
12/17/2007 06:36:30 AM · #3
Maybe the vignette hid too much of the image? Hard to say without seeing the original.
12/17/2007 06:41:14 AM · #4
I seem to remember another entry (a man sitting in a wheelchair being helped by a woman) that was DQ'd for burning the background out to black. Probably this is similar to this image (a very cool image, by the way!!!)
Originally posted by Raziel:

Maybe the vignette hid too much of the image? Hard to say without seeing the original.
12/17/2007 06:55:05 AM · #5
Originally posted by bassbone:

I seem to remember another entry (a man sitting in a wheelchair being helped by a woman) that was DQ'd for burning the background out to black. Probably this is similar to this image (a very cool image, by the way!!!)

524272.jpg - by 21.gif jjbeguin
12/17/2007 07:07:24 AM · #6
Thanks! I can never find images when I want...
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by bassbone:

I seem to remember another entry (a man sitting in a wheelchair being helped by a woman) that was DQ'd for burning the background out to black. Probably this is similar to this image (a very cool image, by the way!!!)

524272.jpg - by 21.gif jjbeguin
12/17/2007 07:13:07 AM · #7
Mine was DQ'd for turning it to white.
12/17/2007 07:20:47 AM · #8
Too bad about the DQ- I liked it a lot
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Mine was DQ'd for turning it to white.
12/17/2007 07:26:55 AM · #9
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Mine was DQ'd for turning it to white.


I'm guessing it's more for removing most of the background, not for the color.
12/17/2007 08:07:11 AM · #10
Originally posted by mad_brewer:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Mine was DQ'd for turning it to white.


I'm guessing it's more for removing most of the background, not for the color.


Most of the background was already white.
12/17/2007 08:33:54 AM · #11
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Most of the background was already white.

Your original had as much detail on the right side background and foreground as on the left.
12/17/2007 09:31:32 AM · #12
So after looking for an outtake and seeing none, do we know why 31.gif onar was pinged?
12/17/2007 10:05:14 AM · #13
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

do we know why onar was pinged?

See that tree reflection on the hood? The windshield above, blue sky, clouds and trees were removed.

Message edited by author 2007-12-17 10:06:21.
12/17/2007 10:09:08 AM · #14


Message edited by author 2007-12-17 10:20:08.
12/17/2007 10:22:32 AM · #15
Since you made yours available, Joe, I'll put it here to help the discussion.

Entry:
619771.jpg

Original:
621182.jpg

Looks like a pretty easy DQ to me. Note that the rules don't give any concessions for objects "that had no impact on the main subject or the image itself." The rules simply state:

You may not: use ANY editing tool to move, remove or duplicate any element of your photograph that would change a typical viewer’s description of the photograph (aside from color or crop), even if the tool is otherwise legal, and regardless of whether you intended the change when the photograph was taken.
12/17/2007 10:25:49 AM · #16
Originally posted by freakin_hilarious:

Since you made yours available, Joe, I'll put it here to help the discussion.

Entry:
619771.jpg

Original:
621182.jpg

Looks like a pretty easy DQ to me. Note that the rules don't give any concessions for objects "that had no impact on the main subject or the image itself." The rules simply state:

You may not: use ANY editing tool to move, remove or duplicate any element of your photograph that would change a typical viewer’s description of the photograph (aside from color or crop), even if the tool is otherwise legal, and regardless of whether you intended the change when the photograph was taken.


How does it change your point of view??? Did I make you think that there wasn't a car in the image??? 99% of the original image still stands.

Message edited by author 2007-12-17 10:26:37.
12/17/2007 10:28:14 AM · #17
Get real man, the trash can in the background completely changes my description of the image. Before it is an image of a car and a trash can, after it is just an image of a car. Let's be serious here.
12/17/2007 10:32:24 AM · #18
Originally posted by routerguy666:

Get real man, the trash can in the background completely changes my description of the image. Before it is an image of a car and a trash can, after it is just an image of a car. Let's be serious here.

Hahahhaa yeah I bet.

Nathan Explain this then??? Notice the first comment AFTER the challenge had ended. AND he finished 6th.
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623217.jpg

Message edited by author 2007-12-17 10:34:35.
12/17/2007 10:34:30 AM · #19
What routerguy said. Everything that you removed on the right side of the picture would be in my description of the original. This is obviously a subjective decision, and I just wanted to share my opinion in the hopes that it might help you and anyone else that sees this thread avoid this kind of DQ in the future.
12/17/2007 10:35:30 AM · #20
I'm sure you will have company in the penalty box once that image is validated.

12/17/2007 10:35:42 AM · #21
Originally posted by freakin_hilarious:

What routerguy said. Everything that you removed on the right side of the picture would be in my description of the original. This is obviously a subjective decision, and I just wanted to share my opinion in the hopes that it might help you and anyone else that sees this thread avoid this kind of DQ in the future.


He was joking...
12/17/2007 10:36:03 AM · #22
Originally posted by routerguy666:

I'm sure you will have company in the penalty box once that image is validated.


It was already validated last week

Originally posted by hotpasta:

awesome...good luck with this...glad you had it validated...lighting is perfect 9


Message edited by author 2007-12-17 10:36:46.
12/17/2007 10:37:05 AM · #23
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Originally posted by routerguy666:

I'm sure you will have company in the penalty box once that image is validated.


It was already validated last week


Well then you got screwed.
12/17/2007 10:41:35 AM · #24
Looks to me like you both were walking a fine line. I would personally vote to DQ both shots. Obviously that was not the case with the SC. Without knowing the vote count, I would venture to guess that you just barely fell on the wrong side, while crabappl3 just barely fell on the right one.
12/17/2007 10:42:59 AM · #25
Originally posted by routerguy666:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Originally posted by routerguy666:

I'm sure you will have company in the penalty box once that image is validated.


It was already validated last week


Well then you got screwed.


Well at least someone else understands. And yes I did.

Here's the thing, I know there is a VERY fine line with the editing rules. The whole reason I left the doors on the left and some of the floor was so I didn't change any element of your photograph that would change a typical viewer’s description of the photograph. I yes I did use the dodge too to remove some area's and that is allowed but I don't think I broke any rules here.

I do understand that a typical viewer depends on the person but honestly does the typical viewer think that I completely altered this photograph to make them believe that it was something other than its main subjects? He removed everything from the background all together. Can someone tell me where that line is?

Message edited by author 2007-12-17 10:45:54.
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