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04/09/2008 04:25:21 PM · #76
Originally posted by hyperfocal:

... the last 10 or so challenges I could get an image to the 150k limit without going to less than 50% quality setting in CS3's save to web

Something's wrong with your workflow then. I rarely need to go below 80% (usually 90%+) to stay under then 150kb limit, and I've gone below 50% maybe once. How about posting an image you're having trouble with and ask for suggestions?
04/09/2008 04:43:13 PM · #77
Somehow I missed that memo so this was really helpful to me! Thanks Karmat!!

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by hyperfocal:

Originally posted by karmat:

not trying to be [can't think of the word I want right now], but you do realize that member's challenges are 200K, don't you (you being plural, not any individual)


You do realize that all challenges are not member challenges?


No, really????

Everyone that had posted in this revival was a member.

NOTHING was said about the current 200K allowance in member's challenges (you know, something like, "In the members challenges, the extra 50 helps a bit, but in the open challenges, blah blah blah).

I was simply making sure that everyone was aware that it is a feature allowed for members -- just in case someone missed the memo.
04/09/2008 04:44:51 PM · #78
I didn't know this either.... pays to read i guess...
04/09/2008 04:56:14 PM · #79
Originally posted by scalvert:


Something's wrong with your workflow then. I rarely need to go below 80% (usually 90%+) to stay under then 150kb limit, and I've gone below 50% maybe once. How about posting an image you're having trouble with and ask for suggestions?


There is nothing wrong with my work flow, your type photography is drastically different from mine. The DPC is very unfriendly to deep focus highly detailed images. I'll be happy to send you the original for my centered comp III entry. I figured WTF and entered it although the I had to apply blur just to get it up to 60%. Currently it is averaging 4.0847 although a not so compressed version of the same image has sold over 10 times on micro stock sites since Saturday.
04/09/2008 04:58:22 PM · #80
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by hyperfocal:

... the last 10 or so challenges I could get an image to the 150k limit without going to less than 50% quality setting in CS3's save to web

Something's wrong with your workflow then. I rarely need to go below 80% (usually 90%+) to stay under then 150kb limit, and I've gone below 50% maybe once. How about posting an image you're having trouble with and ask for suggestions?


when I submitting this image it dropped to 29% causing it to be choppy as hell.


The original looks crisp and sharp and nothing like this. I was upset with my 4

We've already raised the advanced to 200 why not bring the basic with it?

Message edited by author 2008-04-09 17:02:12.
04/09/2008 05:18:19 PM · #81
FWIW, the limit was raised to 200k on the Member Challenges because that percentage increase corresponds roughly to the percentage increase in area going from 640x640 to 720x720. Also, going to 200k for a 640x640 image doesn't really give that much advantage in quality. You have to change it much more than that.
I also have had shots that I had to go pretty far down in quality to meet the 150k limit, and I agree that, if you look carefully, some artifacts will begin to show. Having some mild artifacts, though, is almost always preferable to having an image that is very soft.
If anyone wants to shoot me a ready-to-resize (processing complete, just needing resize and save for web) image I will be glad to rezize, save, and post, including statistics on quality setting.
04/09/2008 05:30:17 PM · #82
So what's the problem with upping the limit?

Message edited by author 2008-04-09 17:31:01.
04/09/2008 05:35:09 PM · #83
200k for a member challenge at 720 px seems like plenty to me. Of course I also loved the basic simplicity of The 5K website competition too. (Make a useful, interesting, and/or entertaining website using 5120 bytes).

I agree that it would be nice to have all challenges moved up to 200 kb. However, as mentioned previously, at 150 kb we still get phenomenal images. A bigger canvas doesn't necessarily mean a better painting...
04/09/2008 05:39:49 PM · #84
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

So what's the problem with upping the limit?

Storage space, bandwidth costs, and consistency come to mind immediately.
04/09/2008 05:47:46 PM · #85
Originally posted by hyperfocal:

Originally posted by scalvert:


Something's wrong with your workflow then. I rarely need to go below 80% (usually 90%+) to stay under then 150kb limit, and I've gone below 50% maybe once. How about posting an image you're having trouble with and ask for suggestions?


There is nothing wrong with my work flow, your type photography is drastically different from mine. The DPC is very unfriendly to deep focus highly detailed images. I'll be happy to send you the original for my centered comp III entry. I figured WTF and entered it although the I had to apply blur just to get it up to 60%. Currently it is averaging 4.0847 although a not so compressed version of the same image has sold over 10 times on micro stock sites since Saturday.


You do hit on a good point. Neatimaged photos have a distinct advantage in that they allow you to save at a much higher quality. Same goes with converting to B/W.
04/09/2008 05:48:30 PM · #86
I like the idea of raising the limit to 200kb on all challenges but I have yet to enter an image that suffered too much at 150. Offhand, I can't think of an instance when I needed to go below 60%... I dunno, maybe I'm missing something.
04/09/2008 05:52:58 PM · #87
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

So what's the problem with upping the limit?

Storage space, bandwidth costs, and consistency come to mind immediately.


Member perk comes to mind for me. :)
04/09/2008 05:54:58 PM · #88
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

So what's the problem with upping the limit?

Storage space, bandwidth costs, and consistency come to mind immediately.


Well we can already upload much larger files to our portfolios and as already mentioned the member challenges already allow for larger files... If costs are an issue, which I really doubt, you could always charge more or charge just those who wish to use the size increase.
04/09/2008 06:06:12 PM · #89
Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

So what's the problem with upping the limit?

Storage space, bandwidth costs, and consistency come to mind immediately.


Well we can already upload much larger files to our portfolios and as already mentioned the member challenges already allow for larger files... If costs are an issue, which I really doubt, you could always charge more or charge just those who wish to use the size increase.

It is the free challenges we are talking about -- paying members already get more space, both for entries and portfolios, which is (I'm sure) accounted-for in the membership fee.

However, the Open challenges are truly open and beyond the control of the site owners. For example, it is extremely unlikely but possible, that for a month following some favorable publicity, Open challenges could suddenly garner 6000 entries each and lots of those enthusiastic new entrants try to view and vote on as many images as possible (something like this happened at a writing site I was at).

Whatever, I don't really have to defend it -- it's not something in my control anyway. Langdon promised, when the site went to having paid memberships, that the basic services available at the time -- the ability to enter one challenge/week with Basic Editing and a 150kb limit -- would always remain free.

This particular subject seems to need some other equine than the usual dead chestnut -- does anyone have a gift horse lying around ...?
04/09/2008 06:12:34 PM · #90
Originally posted by GeneralE:

This particular subject seems to need some other equine than the usual dead chestnut -- does anyone have a gift horse lying around ...?


I do, but he's at the dentist.

~Terry
04/09/2008 06:13:14 PM · #91
Originally posted by GeneralE:

... subject seems to need some other equine than the usual dead chestnut -- does anyone have a gift horse lying around ...?

Hmmm, a writer with a way with words. ;>)
04/09/2008 06:21:46 PM · #92
Originally posted by C_Steve_G:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

... subject seems to need some other equine than the usual dead chestnut -- does anyone have a gift horse lying around ...?

Hmmm, a writer with a way with words. ;>)

Away with words? No, I need them!

Try saying your response five times quickly without staggering ... ;-)
04/09/2008 06:44:13 PM · #93
Originally posted by GeneralE:


For example, it is extremely unlikely but possible, that for a month following some favorable publicity, Open challenges could suddenly garner 6000 entries each and lots of those enthusiastic new entrants try to view and vote on as many images as possible


They had better be enthusiastic. It would take voting on 1,200 photos to meet the minimum voting requirement! :o Just think of the ad revenue DPC could capitalize on.
04/10/2008 10:28:51 PM · #94
Originally posted by TomH1000:

I have come to the point where I find it just about impossible to produce an expectable image at 640 and less then 150kb in size. I have a nice image I would like to submit for the Free Study but no matter what I do I can not get the file under 150kb. It has a great deal of detail even saving at quality 2 in Photoshop it is still about 150kb and looks like crap and would never even think about submitting something like that. Come on, get rid of this ridicules limitation.


Go to Photoshop's Preferences>File Handling and in Image Previews, select "Never" when saving for DPC. It's a huge savings in file size. About 100K!

Message edited by author 2008-04-10 22:33:50.
04/10/2008 10:32:43 PM · #95
It's simple - Go to Photoshops' Preferences and go to File Handling. In the File Saving Options, go to the Image Previews pulldown, select "Never Save." It'll make your files exponentially smaller by just not creating a preview icon.

Sorry about the duplicate post.

Message edited by author 2008-04-10 22:34:09.
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