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02/06/2004 02:52:56 PM · #26 |
I don't mean to sound picky but I AM FRENCH and even if "garage" ethymologically meant "to shelter" at some point in time, it is today exclusively understood to be "some place where you park a motor vehicle, not a shelter", even in France.
And I, as french, and I don't consider myself stupid, would have had a great deal of trouble making the connection "shelter" -> "garage art".
Of course I always encourage creativity and imagination, but seing there is no description attached to picures during voting, DPC is probably not the place to do so if your main expectation is to score high.
Go sign up at deviantArt, and there you can post anything, out of challenge rules, and have people understand it through your description.
I think you'll just have to accept that's how DPC works, if you want to win. You can still do art though, the "challenge" is being limited in interpretation given the international/broad community that this website is.
Cheers.
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02/06/2004 02:54:48 PM · #27 |
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02/06/2004 02:56:34 PM · #28 |
Know how you can tell if your not crazy? You think like your shrink ;)
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02/06/2004 03:05:00 PM · #29 |
When someone starts up a good debate, some will take it up and stew, others point out the status quo either resigning to it or requesting compliance with the way things are.
I'd rather stew.
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02/06/2004 03:08:24 PM · #30 |
so which is more rewarding ? Having everyone like your picture or having a few people love your picture ?
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02/06/2004 03:25:00 PM · #31 |
I posted yesterday about how I found the voting pattern to be strange on this topic compared to previous challenges...it also seems to be stirring the emotions with quite a few people.
What is so different about this challenge ?
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02/06/2004 03:29:16 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
so which is more rewarding ? Having everyone like your picture or having a few people love your picture ? |
Having never experienced the former I have to opt for the latter .... |
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02/06/2004 04:31:30 PM · #33 |
I'm new to photography, I learned a great deal from this site and it's a very useful resource to learn photography, hence the site's success.
I think for the most part the photos here show excellence in the technical aspect of good photography (i.e. composition, lighting, focus, the use of camera features and other equipment, etc.) This is good because first and foremost a good photo should be able to stimulate the visual senses of the viewer. Unfortunately for a lot of people it stops there. When the conventions are not apparent, photos get voted down and are less appreciated.
The good thing though is that photographers evolve over time. The technicalities becomes somewhat ignored but there becomes a deeper communication between the photos and the viewers in the sense that the viewers are moved by the photos either intellectually (which is the point of this thread) or emotionally.
Sadly though, DPC is not the site for that and I'm not sure if there is such a site.
I've entered quite a bit of challenges and I sort of know what works and what doesn't. In the short time that I'm doing photography I think I'm just nearing the point where I'm not particularly aiming for a post-card pretty picture but one that is more subtle (perhaps bland) in looks but has more of a feel to it which is I would think not be quite as appealing to most (like sunset or flower for instance) but to a few that really understands the photo and stimulated by it. I'm experimenting though with less sucess.
Also, don't get me wrong, I like photos of sunsets and flowers. I've entered a few flower photos and did well.
My thoughts, feel free to agree or disagree.
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02/06/2004 04:33:00 PM · #34 |
The debate between art and garages is like one between an impassioned human being and a car. One drives its mute point, the other is driven by inherent transport.
Message edited by author 2004-02-06 16:33:19.
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02/06/2004 04:33:58 PM · #35 |
By and large I agree with gordon, I am usually happy enough when my shots make a few really happy or for that matter only me happy, I think I am feeling crankier than usual at the moment due to 3 shots being entered at the moment all doing poorly, I can live with my shots not making others happy ect... and I agree that my shot is not 'typical' in a garage, and my shadow shot 'looks' PSed when it is not and my 'go together is simply not inspiring much of anything... I think I am just out to have fun with my shots and maybe its PMS but cause a bit of controversy and push the limits a little.
And my shot that has done best here (ribbon winner) is not one of my personally satisfying shots, my garage art shot is even tho i will finish far below my red ribbon status.
Ce'st la vie.
Message edited by author 2004-02-06 16:40:36. |
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02/06/2004 04:38:58 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I'm not French either, but I appear to have some interest in the meaning and interpretation of words we use. Without such an interest, I fear, communication would suffer. I'd have to, in all fairness, refrain from some forms of communication altogether. After all, how could I expect to be taken seriously, if my speech is muddled? |
indubitably. |
Etymology: 17c: from Latin indubitabilis, from dubitare to doubt.
Sorry... couldn't resist
Plus, my signature is perfect for this post. ;)
Message edited by author 2004-02-06 16:39:52.
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02/06/2004 04:45:31 PM · #37 |
It's kinda funny, how there are so many different opinions and not everyone can be pleased all the time. Some people say, go for the literal, it usually does best in the end....
I've noticed on my recent submission "Things that go together" that because of my title, my picture is doing poorly. It seems that people take the title WAY too literal, and therefore look at the picture and say, "I don't see "this" in your picture" therefore it must be bad. It seems that once they've made their mind up, they don't really look at the picture content and quality after that and just mark it down. I had debated on several titles for my picture, and went with one that was a little more interesting and decided against the boring and abstract one. It seems to me the picture should come first and not so much the title, as long as the picture is within the challenge topic, which mine clearly is....
Like I said, can't please all the people all the time. And it could be that my picture is really bad, but I have submitted worse that have scored higher so go figure.... I like it, and if you're not going for ribbons, I guess that's what counts. :) |
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02/06/2004 04:50:47 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Brooklyn513:
indubitably. |
Etymology: 17c: from Latin indubitabilis, from dubitare to doubt.
Sorry... couldn't resist
Plus, my signature is perfect for this post. ;) [/quote]
That may well be the etymology of the word, but it has the opposite meaning - without a doubt
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02/06/2004 05:04:06 PM · #39 |
| I haven't voted yet. I better see a screwdriver laying beside a hot babe in a thong or I will be totally disappointed. :P |
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02/06/2004 05:06:26 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by deafwolf:
I haven't voted yet. I better see a screwdriver laying beside a hot babe in a thong or I will be totally disappointed. :P |
ah, Dr Jones, where are you when we need you ?
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02/06/2004 06:31:15 PM · #41 |
Anyone read the challenge description?
"We've created art in the kitchen. We've created art at the office. Now it's time for some Garage Art! Using the kind of things you'd typically find in a garage, design and then photograph an interesting composition. |
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02/06/2004 06:38:04 PM · #42 |
which should include, a car, a tire, or things on the wall. if someone can see the beauty of a subject that is there.. and capture it.. i think that is what it is about... or CAN be about at least.
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02/06/2004 07:02:07 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by louddog:
Using the kind of things you'd typically find in a garage, design and then photograph an interesting composition. |
So, you're telling me that YOU never find a beautiful woman in a thong holding a screwdriver in YOUR garage? Are you from up north? |
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02/06/2004 07:34:18 PM · #44 |
I`m getting more p****d off by the minute with this challenge.
I`ve had two votes in the last hour and each one dropped my average..yet again.The difference with these votes was that a comment accompanied each of them.Both comments were very positive and full of praise about the image and yet the scores were 5 & 4.
What do these guys give to images they hate ??
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02/06/2004 07:39:11 PM · #45 |
> louddog
The description addresses the photographer: ...things you'd typically find in a garage...
Not things you'd find in a typical garage.
A homeless person, spending the night, leaves blown in by the wind, a case of Beaujolais, marijuana plants, even an old Landauer are things you would typically find in my garage, if I still had one.
The title specifies art as well, not just a photograph of a tire. No, it has to be a damn good one too.
The explanation asks the photographer to photograph an interesting composition. The tire, apparently, is not enough, even if captured artistically. A composition needs to be captured as well.
Did I read the challenge description?
Message edited by author 2004-02-06 21:10:37.
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02/06/2004 09:52:34 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by geewhy:
I`m getting more p****d off by the minute with this challenge.
I`ve had two votes in the last hour and each one dropped my average..yet again.The difference with these votes was that a comment accompanied each of them.Both comments were very positive and full of praise about the image and yet the scores were 5 & 4.
What do these guys give to images they hate ??
Gordon |
Comments and votes aren't always actually associated with each other - people go back later and add comments to images they've voted on for example
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02/06/2004 10:08:16 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by deafwolf:
I haven't voted yet. I better see a screwdriver laying beside a hot babe in a thong or I will be totally disappointed. :P |
ah, Dr Jones, where are you when we need you ? |
Here here!
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02/06/2004 10:11:53 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by geewhy:
I`m getting more p****d off by the minute with this challenge.
I`ve had two votes in the last hour and each one dropped my average..yet again.The difference with these votes was that a comment accompanied each of them.Both comments were very positive and full of praise about the image and yet the scores were 5 & 4.
What do these guys give to images they hate ??
Gordon |
How would you know what they scored?
Message edited by author 2004-02-06 22:18:47. |
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02/06/2004 10:12:29 PM · #49 |
How does everyone know why people are voting their shot down or up for that matter? Some say bc the voters didnt like the title. Well, how do you know this? Unless everyone that is voting is leaving a comment as to how they voted, we are guessing as to why people are voting our shots down.
How come no one ever says my shot is bing voted down maybe bc people didnt like it or that it wasnt my best work. Why is the fault always with the voter & how omnipresent the fotog is?
No one knows for sure why people vote the way they do unless you are told directly. WE only assume. I think we should give the assumptions & the ranting a bit of a rest & start talking about what we like on our own shots regardless of how others perceive it.
I'll start. My shot is not doing as well as I would like but I really enjoyed shooting it. I took different shots under different lighting over a couple of days. I took so many that I submitted, umsubmitted, submitted... several times. I liked so many of them I didnt know which one I wanted to use. I finally just stopped obsessing, as per the advice of my sister, & went with the last one I uploaded. I had oodles of fun!
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02/07/2004 12:16:05 AM · #50 |
I'm only basing it on 80% of my comments directly relate to my title, of course that is only about 10% of the votes, so I'm sure it has to do with more of the technical aspests of the photo overall.
But since I hate trying to come up with a "catchy" title, I really hate when most of my comments are based on my title related to the photo... does that make sense? I would be happy to title all of mine "Untitled" and let people come up with their own interpretation. (less work for me that way) :-)
Message edited by author 2004-02-07 00:16:45. |
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