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10/02/2007 02:07:12 PM · #1
I'm upgrading from a Pentax Ist DS and am trying to decide between the Canon 40D and the Nikon D300. I'm leaning towards the Nikon with a 18 - 200 VR lens. Any thoughts from Canon and Nikon users?
10/02/2007 02:10:15 PM · #2
Pentax K10D?
10/02/2007 02:12:52 PM · #3
I asked almost the same question here.

I'm thinking that I'll wait to see how the D300 looks at high ISO.

I really like the idea of 51pt AF and the 100% viewfinder, not to mention all the other stuff
10/02/2007 02:15:06 PM · #4
*Stands by flagpole*
*Numchucks sticking out of pocket for effect*
*Wearing dark sunglasses*
*It's midnight*
10/02/2007 02:25:25 PM · #5
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

*Stands by flagpole*
*Numchucks sticking out of pocket for effect*
*Wearing dark sunglasses*
*It's midnight*


Dude, you're way early, it's not even 2:30 in the afternoon yet.
10/02/2007 02:32:14 PM · #6
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

*Stands by flagpole*
*Numchucks sticking out of pocket for effect*
*Wearing dark sunglasses*
*It's midnight*


Dude, you're way early, it's not even 2:30 in the afternoon yet.


In the World According to Slippy, it's midnight at high noon. Live with it.

R.
10/02/2007 02:34:10 PM · #7
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I really like the idea of 51pt AF


This sounds good - unless like most people you turn all the focus points 'off' except the central one.

At that point it doesn't much matter whether you are shutting off an additional 8 points (Canon), or an additional 50 points (Nikon) . . you are still just using one :- )
10/02/2007 02:39:09 PM · #8
Originally posted by Jedusi:

At that point it doesn't much matter whether you are shutting off an additional 8 points (Canon)


Or 44
10/02/2007 02:41:45 PM · #9
If the D300 is a true evolution of the D200 as it appears to be, I have to vote for the D300. I am absolutely ga-ga over my D200. I would however, maybe consider a different lens. I've not yet seen anything from real users to justify it's cost for image quality. Maybe look (very seriously) at the 70-200 f/2.8, it's about as good as you can get in that range.

OR.. you could try and pick up a D200 for a good price and put your money towards pro-grade glass.
10/02/2007 02:42:23 PM · #10
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I asked almost the same question here.

I'm thinking that I'll wait to see how the D300 looks at high ISO.

I really like the idea of 51pt AF and the 100% viewfinder, not to mention all the other stuff


High-ISO stuff, non-official of course.
//nikond300.dpnotes.com/full-sized-high-iso-nikon-d300-samples/
10/02/2007 02:42:23 PM · #11
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

In the World According to Slippy, it's midnight at high noon. Live with it.
R.

Word. :-D

Originally posted by Jedusi:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I really like the idea of 51pt AF


This sounds good - unless like most people you turn all the focus points 'off' except the central one.

At that point it doesn't much matter whether you are shutting off an additional 8 points (Canon), or an additional 50 points (Nikon) . . you are still just using one :- )

Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?
10/02/2007 02:44:10 PM · #12
Originally posted by Strikeslip:


Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?


Yup..... :-D
10/02/2007 02:44:54 PM · #13
Originally posted by Strikeslip:


Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?


I think the new 8-way controller might help with that a little ;)
10/02/2007 02:44:54 PM · #14
Originally posted by doc_gonzo:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:


Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?


Yup..... :-D

No way I'm ever playing a video game against you! :-D
10/02/2007 02:45:19 PM · #15
Originally posted by Strikeslip:


Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?


These cameras have automatic focus tracking mode for sports/wildlife shooting; in that mode, the more focus points the better the results. Also useful on a tripod setup, where you can select precisely the focal point you desire within the composition.

R.
10/02/2007 02:47:30 PM · #16
Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:


Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?


I think the new 8-way controller might help with that a little ;)

Ooh, that makes me think.... there's an 8-way controller on the back of the 40D, I wonder if I can move the focus point with that, hmmm. Something to check out.
10/02/2007 02:50:42 PM · #17
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?


Sometimes just to go crazy I swap from the central point to one of the other ones - it stops them getting dusty :- )

Then I feel guilty and go back to the central one . . .

Using them all at once would be mad, mad I tell you . . (led away struggling)

10/02/2007 02:50:57 PM · #18
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:


Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?


These cameras have automatic focus tracking mode for sports/wildlife shooting; in that mode, the more focus points the better the results. Also useful on a tripod setup, where you can select precisely the focal point you desire within the composition.

R.

That sounds like something I'd like. It's tough to track a bird and keep it in focus with just the centre point in servo mode. I try every once in a while before giving up. :-(
10/02/2007 02:52:09 PM · #19
Originally posted by Jedusi:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?


Sometimes just to go crazy I swap from the central point to one of the other ones - it stops them getting dusty :- )

Then I feel guilty and go back to the central one . . .

Using them all at once would be mad, mad I tell you . . (led away struggling)

LOL! Next thing you know, one of your focus points will be boiling your pet rabbit. ;-)
10/02/2007 02:57:56 PM · #20
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

LOL! Next thing you know, one of your focus points will be boiling your pet rabbit. ;-)


:- o

Makes you wonder though - what do they get up to if you're not using them ? ?

Probably best to keep on the right side of them and use them all occasionally :- )


Message edited by author 2007-10-02 15:00:50.
10/02/2007 03:02:42 PM · #21
Originally posted by Jedusi:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I really like the idea of 51pt AF


This sounds good - unless like most people you turn all the focus points 'off' except the central one.

At that point it doesn't much matter whether you are shutting off an additional 8 points (Canon), or an additional 50 points (Nikon) . . you are still just using one :- )


Well, not exactly. One problem is that the existing Canon focus points are frequently not where I need them to be, even if I only want to use one point, with Canon, there are only 9 chances to have one where I want it, with the Nikon, there would be 51.

I rarely, if ever use only the central point, rather I'm trying to find one that's closest to where I want it or I just have them all on.
10/02/2007 03:08:55 PM · #22
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:


Do people really ever use more than one focus point? And is anyone really fast & coordinated enough to change the focus point away from centre on the fly?


I think the new 8-way controller might help with that a little ;)

Ooh, that makes me think.... there's an 8-way controller on the back of the 40D, I wonder if I can move the focus point with that, hmmm. Something to check out.


Yes, the 8-way controller can be used to select the focus point.

Message edited by author 2007-10-02 15:21:18.
10/02/2007 03:09:53 PM · #23
Wouldn't it be a cool feature if you could have a user defined focus point that you steered into place with the little joystick (as well as the preset ones) ?

How flexible would that be ?
10/02/2007 03:12:33 PM · #24
well concerning focus points , i think this is so usefull, i use the 5 points i have on my D50, i know i know no where close to the D300, but depending on the situation i wish i had more of these, and nikon did just that put more focus points on that camera, so now i ahve to start saving for it.
10/02/2007 03:14:24 PM · #25
Originally posted by Jedusi:

Wouldn't it be a cool feature if you could have a user defined focus point that you steered into place with the little joystick (as well as the preset ones) ?

How flexible would that be ?

Or one that you could move around with your eyeball, simply by looking at the subject.
*runs to patent office*
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