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09/27/2007 06:16:07 PM · #1
Yes I have decided it's that time again... ;-) I i i i i have a good budget but the less I spend on it the better obviously, as I'm seriously thinking about going travelling for a bit... not exactly sure where etc but it's on top of my list for end of this year n beggin of next...

I always had back in my mind that I wanted to get into wildlife photography, not entirely sure because at the moment I feel like I'm still learning about photography and last time I did purchage a lens I went with canons 70-200 f4 L which I completly adore now!! I did consider the 400mm f5.6 L but thought I wasn't good enough or prepared for it? Kind of thing... but of course now I'm considering getting a good telephoto for the wildlife side of it that I feel I have to do at some point plus getting the opportunity to travel like I want to do couldn't be the best time...

Options I'm thinking about are:
1) Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS ----> I'm sure it's AMAZING and all that but it would be my entire budget gone and from the last time I discuss about which lens to get someone sent me a link to another thread comparing the 100-400mm with the 400mm and quality wise the 400mm is better at 400 than the 100-400 lol

2) Canon 400mm f5.6 L PLUS either canon 10-22mm or sigma's 10-20mm ---->
Guess I am considering this more than option 1) but for the fact that I also would like a cool super wide angle lens for landscapes, etc but I still would like to know people's thoughts on both options I have lol
Now... I am slightly confused to which 1 to go for between canon and sigmas... bit worried if I were to get sigmas because I read some reviews that some lenses are soft at the 10mm end... the place where I purchage my lenses from are from Hong Kong so would be a bit of a hassle if I got 1 of those copies? But then again gettin both canon lenses goes slightly over my budget!

Would be sooooooooooo greatful for everyones comments on the subject!

Thanks in advance
Luana
09/27/2007 07:58:27 PM · #2
Gonna bump this up!!! =| will check again tomorrow... =)
09/27/2007 08:25:43 PM · #3
If you won't use anything but the 400mm setting on the 100-400mm lens the majority of the time, then go with the prime. As far as the Canon vs. the Sigma, get the Canon if you can afford it.
09/27/2007 09:24:53 PM · #4
the 10-22 is amazing, you'll love it.

the 300 f4 IS is also very very nice. add in a 1.4 TC and you've got a 400 5.6....

I've been a zoom fan but got an 85 1.8 and love it. so i got a 28 1.8 and love it too - I think i just like wide apertures more than anything else. so for that reason a 5.6 lens isn't on my list of things to get.
09/27/2007 09:27:51 PM · #5
I second the 10-22mm I love mine and most of all my 30 day B&W shots weret taken with my 10-22.

Also if you dont have the 70-300 sigma that is a good lens for the money. Or the 105mm sigma macro is great as well.

Message edited by author 2007-09-27 21:28:44.
09/28/2007 05:47:30 AM · #6
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

the 10-22 is amazing, you'll love it.

the 300 f4 IS is also very very nice. add in a 1.4 TC and you've got a 400 5.6....

I've been a zoom fan but got an 85 1.8 and love it. so i got a 28 1.8 and love it too - I think i just like wide apertures more than anything else. so for that reason a 5.6 lens isn't on my list of things to get.


Thats very interestinnnnnnnnnnggggggggg I was looking at the 85 1.8... but I can't have EVERYTHING lol dammit now your giving me even more things to think about lol

By the way the 300 f4 IS is more expensive than the 400mm ...
09/28/2007 05:49:17 AM · #7
"I think i just like wide apertures more than anything else"

I agree with that alot alot alot ... =(
09/28/2007 05:52:35 AM · #8
Originally posted by SamDoe1:

If you won't use anything but the 400mm setting on the 100-400mm lens the majority of the time, then go with the prime. As far as the Canon vs. the Sigma, get the Canon if you can afford it.


Why should I go for canon when I can save a bit onthe sigma? ... that;s just being cheap lol but I'm a girl I have shopping needs!!!!!

Message edited by author 2007-09-28 05:53:02.
09/28/2007 07:26:29 AM · #9
Originally posted by booboo_goon:


Why should I go for canon when I can save a bit onthe sigma? ... that;s just being cheap lol but I'm a girl I have shopping needs!!!!!


The Canon Lens performs better for vingetting, Chromatic aberrations, and overall distortion on the edges.

The is direct quote from Photozone:
Canon

The Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM delivered a very sound performance with a combination of very decent build quality and very good if not impressive optical results. If anything vignetting at wide-open aperture could be better. The center performance is excellent throughout the range with generally good borders. The level of distortions is surprisingly low and CAs are quite well controlled.
Naturally it makes sense to compare the lens to a serious competitor like the Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4 AT-X Pro DX. All in all the resolution figures are very similar. The Canon has less CAs and a better contra light performance whereas the Tokina shows less vignetting. The build quality of the Tokina is also a little better (the Canon is good enough though) and finally the Tokina is substantially cheaper (420 EUR vs 670 EUR locally).


Sigma

"The Sigma AF 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX HSM DC is a worthy alternative in the ultra-wide arena for APS-C DSLRs. At 10mm it showed some of the highest resolution figures that we've seen so far here whereas at 14mm and 20mm the results are slightly worse than the rest of the gang but still pretty good.
On the down-side the lens shows fairly heavy vignetting at large aperture settings. At 10mm there're some quite pronounced barrel distortions at the extreme corners (far less in the inner image field) whereas at 14mm pincushion distortions can be quite obvious.
It's a joy to use this lens with its excellent build quality, smooth controls and fast AF on top.
The alternatives in this zoom range perform quite similar so you've to consider your priorities. The Sigma AF 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX HSM DC is surely worth a deeper look here.


HTH
Rich
09/28/2007 11:22:31 AM · #10
Originally posted by Hot_Pixel:

Originally posted by booboo_goon:


Why should I go for canon when I can save a bit onthe sigma? ... that;s just being cheap lol but I'm a girl I have shopping needs!!!!!


The Canon Lens performs better for vingetting, Chromatic aberrations, and overall distortion on the edges.

The is direct quote from Photozone:
Canon

The Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM delivered a very sound performance with a combination of very decent build quality and very good if not impressive optical results. If anything vignetting at wide-open aperture could be better. The center performance is excellent throughout the range with generally good borders. The level of distortions is surprisingly low and CAs are quite well controlled.
Naturally it makes sense to compare the lens to a serious competitor like the Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4 AT-X Pro DX. All in all the resolution figures are very similar. The Canon has less CAs and a better contra light performance whereas the Tokina shows less vignetting. The build quality of the Tokina is also a little better (the Canon is good enough though) and finally the Tokina is substantially cheaper (420 EUR vs 670 EUR locally).


Sigma

"The Sigma AF 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX HSM DC is a worthy alternative in the ultra-wide arena for APS-C DSLRs. At 10mm it showed some of the highest resolution figures that we've seen so far here whereas at 14mm and 20mm the results are slightly worse than the rest of the gang but still pretty good.
On the down-side the lens shows fairly heavy vignetting at large aperture settings. At 10mm there're some quite pronounced barrel distortions at the extreme corners (far less in the inner image field) whereas at 14mm pincushion distortions can be quite obvious.
It's a joy to use this lens with its excellent build quality, smooth controls and fast AF on top.
The alternatives in this zoom range perform quite similar so you've to consider your priorities. The Sigma AF 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX HSM DC is surely worth a deeper look here.


HTH
Rich


What he said.

This doesn't mean that the Sigma is bad, if you can't afford the Canon then the Sigma is a great alternative. Just that the Canon is better. Please note though that if you plan on going to any kind of full frame body in the future, neither of the two will work on it.
09/29/2007 04:49:32 PM · #11
I wasnt saying that the sigma is bad, but just giving reasons to support the purchase of the canon. I personally will not buy sigma, I have had 2 lenses that was purchased from them that I did not care for. But its all a matter of personal taste as well and people should go with what they like.

Rich
09/29/2007 04:59:46 PM · #12
Originally posted by booboo_goon:

"I think i just like wide apertures more than anything else"

I agree with that alot alot alot ... =(


me too too too!!! ;)

why not get a 1.4 tele converter for your 70-200, you'll have a ~100-300mm f5.6,
then get a sigma 10-20, which is almost as good as the canon one, but lots cheaper, and at last the 80 1.8

i believe you will have ALL your needs covered with that without blowing up your budget...lol
10/01/2007 09:55:26 AM · #13
Thanks alot you guys... i will be going for canon's 10-22mm istead of sigma's will wait a bit more about the 400mm... still not entirely sure =) plus taking into considerations your other ideas...
10/01/2007 10:24:46 AM · #14
Faced with that choice I went with the Sigma. Here in the UK the Sigma is quite a lot cheaper (even more so when you factor in the lens hood that Sigma supply but Canon don't). I think the Sigma is better built than the Canon as well (Sigma don't have the same qualms about making high build quality crop lenses that Canon seem to have).

Neither lens is in the same category in terms of absolute sharpness and image quality as something like the 70-200 - it's very very hard to build a 10mm rectilinear lens so that's not surprising. The attraction of the ultrawides is the incredible perspectives you can get rather than supreme image quality anyway - so I figured that for me the shortcomings of the Sigma weren't going to be a problem.

That said I've got pretty nasty focussing issues with the 10-20 - but I think that's my 350D rather than the lens...

splidge
10/01/2007 10:26:55 AM · #15
Originally posted by booboo_goon:

Thanks alot you guys... i will be going for canon's 10-22mm


Cool your gonna love it, lol I hardly take mine off my camera
10/01/2007 10:41:33 AM · #16
Originally posted by booboo_goon:

Thanks alot you guys... i will be going for canon's 10-22mm

Not to put some "spice in your soup", but have you considered the 17-55mm from Canon? Some say it's amazing, though pricey...
10/01/2007 11:13:14 AM · #17
Originally posted by gg3rd:

Originally posted by booboo_goon:

Thanks alot you guys... i will be going for canon's 10-22mm

Not to put some "spice in your soup", but have you considered the 17-55mm from Canon? Some say it's amazing, though pricey...


But it's also a very different lens with a very different purpose.

10/01/2007 11:16:00 AM · #18
Originally posted by gg3rd:

Originally posted by booboo_goon:

Thanks alot you guys... i will be going for canon's 10-22mm

Not to put some "spice in your soup", but have you considered the 17-55mm from Canon? Some say it's amazing, though pricey...


Not consired this at all... not as wide... hehehehe would be over budget as well

Message edited by author 2007-10-01 11:17:10.
10/05/2007 12:32:57 PM · #19
GUYS GUYS! MY new lens arrieved today!Yes I went for canon 10-22mm OH MY GITS!! I'm in loveeeeeeeee!

Just got back from takig some shots here we go!! =D







*giggles*

Message edited by author 2007-10-05 12:33:28.
10/05/2007 12:53:59 PM · #20
Welcome to the world of ultrawide :-) Try some with small, foreground objects dominating vast expanses of landscape; in the following, that seaweed clump is like 6 inches across...



R.
10/05/2007 12:55:46 PM · #21
Aren't wide lenses and filters fun?

:D

Congrats on your new gear!

Message edited by author 2007-10-05 12:57:02.
10/05/2007 01:05:58 PM · #22
So muchhhhhhhh fun!! Wow wow W-O-W!!!

I will try something like that Bear music... and thanks nalllddd! =D
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