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09/25/2007 09:02:26 PM · #1
I currently have a 20D. It has about 80,000 shutter actuations on it and I need a new primary camera. I will keep the 20D as a backup and fix the shutter if it dies, it's worth it. But for a replacement camera would I be better off spending the extra coin for the 40D over the 30D. (At this time I can afford the difference)

I shoot darn near anything including portraits, sports, flowers, pets, bugs, parties, groups, low light, plenty of light, landscapes, macro, etc. I guess what I'm saying is I don't have a real defined area I shoot. I shoot what I like or get paid for.

Thoughts?
09/25/2007 09:06:13 PM · #2
You pretty much summed it up yourself. The 40D is an excellent all purpose camera, tonnes of crazy new features. If you can afford the difference, you'd enjoy the 40D more than the 30D.
09/25/2007 09:13:31 PM · #3
I don't own the 40D but I do own the 20D & 30D. The only real difference between the 20d&30d is the screen size(which the 40d's is even bigger than the 30D's) and the half stop increments on the ISO, which is a big plus. If I were you I would pull the trigger on the 40D, lots more features, larger screen, more MP and better sensor. I love both my cameras and will wait until one upchucks and dies before upgrading but given the choice now I would choose the 40D. Besides, the price desparity isn't that big between the two, imo!
09/25/2007 09:21:43 PM · #4
Originally posted by kawesttex:

(At this time I can afford the difference)

Daddy? Is that you?

;)
09/25/2007 09:25:35 PM · #5
Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by kawesttex:

(At this time I can afford the difference)

Daddy? Is that you?

;)


LOL!!!
09/25/2007 09:34:50 PM · #6
Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by kawesttex:

(At this time I can afford the difference)

Daddy? Is that you?

;)

Son, go back to the bar and we will talk about this later. Not right now. (not in front of the guests)
09/25/2007 09:48:25 PM · #7
Thanks for the replies so far. (except _Eug :-) I'll deal with him later) The difference could be the extra cash could going towards a lense/flash/strobe upgrade. (I have about 1400-1500US to deal with)

Message edited by author 2007-09-25 22:04:42.
09/25/2007 09:54:22 PM · #8
I LOVE my 40D. I don't think you would be disappointed with it. If I bought the 30D to save some money, I know that later I'd regret not buying the 40D.

Go for it!
09/25/2007 09:55:36 PM · #9
Shoot you're due for a upgrade. Go ahead, pull the trigger on that bad boy! :-D

Message edited by author 2007-09-25 23:02:53.
09/25/2007 10:44:02 PM · #10
Bigger screen = more nose grease :)
I got some cheap screen protectors for mine.

Upgrade your software to support the 40D if you don't have the latest.

Cards fill up quicker with a 10 vs 8 megapixel if you shoot lots of pictures at once, especially at 6 fps set at RAW + JPG.
09/25/2007 11:09:33 PM · #11
I skipped the 30D specifically because it didn't add much vs. my old 20D. The 40D has many more significant and useful features.
09/26/2007 12:22:58 AM · #12
OK, looks like I'm going for the 40D. This will probably delay any 'family fun' with the wife for 6 months. I figure if 'that' is delayed that's still twice as often as get it now. :-)

Thanks for y'alls help.

Ken
09/26/2007 11:00:01 AM · #13
Originally posted by kawesttex:

OK, looks like I'm going for the 40D. This will probably delay any 'family fun' with the wife for 6 months. I figure if 'that' is delayed that's still twice as often as get it now. :-)

Thanks for y'alls help.

Ken

In case you are having second thoughts...here's what the 40D has done in its very short time here at DPC.
09/26/2007 11:17:24 AM · #14
I am well happy with mine. The liveview is pretty nifty for macro (if you use a tripod) and low DOF work, I'm loving it with the 85mm F1.8. I am going to try silent mode tonight at a conference talk.

The only thing I am not sure about is the colour of the images on the LCD - they seem a bit off. I remember some 5D owners claimed the same thing a while ago. Its no biggy.

Message edited by author 2007-09-26 11:17:56.
09/26/2007 02:36:18 PM · #15
my buddy has a 30d and played with my 40d the other day and wants to upgrade, i love the camera it was a big upgrade from my 350d and the 6.5 fps is amazing.
if you can afford it get the 40d

Message edited by author 2007-09-26 14:38:45.
09/26/2007 03:44:58 PM · #16
Get the 40D.
I have the 20, 30 and now the 40.
WOW.
14bit files - WOW. 1D quality - so says a friend that shoots a 1D mk3 and got a 40D as backup, and I've processed a few hundred 1D and 4D RAW files - the IQ is there.
Useable, printable ISO3200.
Focus - outstanding, no comparison to the prosumer models before it. Faster, more accurate - wow, er, WOW!
Highlight tone priority - great feature.
Live view - neat, used it a few times. It's specialty item, but you can't use it if you don't have it.
Bigger buffer - 17 vs 9 RAW images. That is HUGE!
6.5 vs 5 fps - if you shoot sports, 'nuf said.
Faster internally - the 20D is a snail in thick mud compared to a 30D and the 40D beats the 30 by 30-50% (from shoot to LCD view, card erasures, formats, etc)
09/26/2007 03:47:00 PM · #17
Originally posted by ct_lane:

Bigger screen = more nose grease :)
I got some cheap screen protectors for mine.

Upgrade your software to support the 40D if you don't have the latest.

Cards fill up quicker with a 10 vs 8 megapixel if you shoot lots of pictures at once, especially at 6 fps set at RAW + JPG.


Unless the screen protectors are kleenex to remove th enose grease before it gets on the camera I don't see the point - the LCD screen is near impossible to scratch as it is.

It's not the 10Mp that's the issue - its the move to 14bit files - the RAW files are about 50% larger than the 30D files. So your HD will fill faster too :D
09/26/2007 04:13:41 PM · #18
<----- :-)
09/26/2007 10:50:38 PM · #19
<----- :-)

(Crap, just looking at the camera and a quick peruse of the manual I have alot to learn about this beast!)
09/26/2007 10:53:33 PM · #20
Originally posted by kawesttex:

<----- :-)

(Crap, just looking at the camera and a quick peruse of the manual I have alot to learn about this beast!)


What were you shooting before? If it was a 20 or 30D did you notice the buttons on top by the LCD have had their functions swapped about?
09/26/2007 10:57:23 PM · #21
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by kawesttex:

<----- :-)

(Crap, just looking at the camera and a quick peruse of the manual I have alot to learn about this beast!)


What were you shooting before? If it was a 20 or 30D did you notice the buttons on top by the LCD have had their functions swapped about?

20D

Yes and the whole back panel is different in layout. Gonna take some getting used to. Just playing with settings, and not having RTFM yet, it seems the ISO button only goes down to 200 then sets to auto. I am definitely going to have to read how to set to 100.

Message edited by author 2007-09-26 22:57:51.
09/26/2007 11:24:32 PM · #22
Originally posted by kawesttex:

[quote=Prof_Fate] [quote=kawesttex] <----- :-)

(Crap, just looking at the camera and a quick peruse of the manual I have alot to learn about this beast!)


And the God 'Canon' did send his son upon the earth so that DSLR owners would stay upon the paths (and other adjustments) of righteousness... and his son was called EOS-40D. All who received the grace of his presence were struck with awe and wonder at the miracles he performed, his speed of shooting and his big LCD.

And God did say, "Ye shall worship no other images, except those taken by my son (or his big brothers).

And the multitude were converted saying, "Verily Canon, thou art the true God",

BUY IT!
09/26/2007 11:30:30 PM · #23
Originally posted by keeperofduffy:

And the God 'Canon' did send his son upon the earth so that DSLR owners would stay upon the paths (and other adjustments) of righteousness... and his son was called EOS-40D. All who received the grace of his presence were struck with awe and wonder at the miracles he performed, his speed of shooting and his big LCD.

And God did say, "Ye shall worship no other images, except those taken by my son (or his big brothers).

And the multitude were converted saying, "Verily Canon, thou art the true God",

BUY IT!

AMEN, brother!

09/27/2007 12:24:17 AM · #24
Originally posted by kawesttex:

Just playing with settings, and not having RTFM yet, it seems the ISO button only goes down to 200 then sets to auto. I am definitely going to have to read how to set to 100.

Check for the Highlight Tone Priority setting.

"Highlight Tone Priority seeks to improve highlight detail. The range is extended between 18% (“middle”) gray and the maximum highlight tone. This makes the gradation finer from the grays to the highlights and reduces blown highlights. The function limits the settable ISO speed range to 200-1600." Found on page 8 here.
09/27/2007 01:41:36 AM · #25
Originally posted by keeperofduffy:

Originally posted by kawesttex:

[quote=Prof_Fate] [quote=kawesttex] <----- :-)

(Crap, just looking at the camera and a quick peruse of the manual I have alot to learn about this beast!)


And the God 'Canon' did send his son upon the earth so that DSLR owners would stay upon the paths (and other adjustments) of righteousness... and his son was called EOS-40D. All who received the grace of his presence were struck with awe and wonder at the miracles he performed, his speed of shooting and his big LCD.

And God did say, "Ye shall worship no other images, except those taken by my son (or his big brothers).

And the multitude were converted saying, "Verily Canon, thou art the true God",

BUY IT!


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