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01/25/2004 09:22:46 PM · #1 |
| Is it possible to make people wait five seconds before they can vote on each image? It think that it would be benificial. Every person who takes the time to do a challenge deserves at least five seconds from the voter. |
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01/25/2004 09:25:09 PM · #2 |
| I know that it can be done. Even without java script. |
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01/25/2004 09:27:57 PM · #3 |
| very good idea! stops voters from just breezing through every photo and giving them all 5's except for the ones that instantly catch their eye. I think this should be implemented too. |
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01/25/2004 09:44:38 PM · #4 |
| That would be great.... I have some time walk in this "trap". Trap of not give me some time to look bettar at the photo and the title to. Like this idea alot |
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01/25/2004 09:45:13 PM · #5 |
| Great Idea, possibly even 10 seconds, that is my minimum time, never less then 10 seconds. |
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01/25/2004 10:34:31 PM · #6 |
| It takes that longer (or longer) for each picture to load for me. |
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01/25/2004 10:42:04 PM · #7 |
| 5 sec would be good , except it gives someone 4.5 sec more to not like my pics. |
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01/25/2004 10:45:02 PM · #8 |
| Same here karmat. I think we dial-up users are in the minority at dpc. It would have to be 5 seconds after the page is finished loading to be effective. Ten would be too long, would discourage people from voting. |
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01/25/2004 10:47:11 PM · #9 |
I think a time limit is a great idea.
I been here when the clock strikes 12:00 and the speed at which
some of the first voting appears to be dones is truly amazing.
How about one day of just plain viewing before the voting starts?
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01/25/2004 11:06:15 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Calvus:
How about one day of just plain viewing before the voting starts? |
Then people will just wait until the next day and blow through them. :-(
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01/26/2004 12:17:58 AM · #11 |
I personally do not think we need more guidelines or rules on how or when to vote. Quickly going through the images does not automatically mean that someone isn't being objective in there voting.
For example, my voting style has evolved into stages:
(1) I peruse all the thumbnails first to give me some idea of the type of images in the challenge.
(2) I then like to make a quick pass through all images (one at a time) and give them a quick 'first impression' vote.
(3) Throughout the rest of the challenge period I reevaluate my choices and adjust the various scores up/down as I see fit. - I start leaving comments during my second viewing as well.
(4) I will often 'review' images many times before finally settling on a score.
T.T.F.N.
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01/26/2004 12:26:10 AM · #12 |
casualguy,
you sure have a lot of time on your hands ; )
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01/26/2004 12:36:07 AM · #13 |
I dont think thats a good idea. I think we should look at a photo for as long as or short of a period of time as we see fit.
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01/26/2004 12:43:50 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
casualguy,
you sure have a lot of time on your hands ; ) |
Koriyama...
I recently read that a human brain's probable processing power is around 100 teraflops, roughly 100 trillion calculations per second. This is based on factoring the capability of the brain's 100 billion neurons, each with over 1,000 connections to other neurons, with each connection capable of performing about 200 calculations per second. (LOL)
Granted, my brain has probably degraded to half of these capabilities, but having said that, the challenge process doesn't really take that much time (a fast internet connection helps).
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01/26/2004 01:19:09 AM · #15 |
| I think that a minimum time (i.e. 5 seconds) is a great idea. I would think that using javascript it should not be hard to not allow for a vote to be cast until 5 seconds after the images loads (this would level the playing field for broadband vs dialup users). On a side note, on all of the challenges I have entered, I have noticed that my average after about the first 20 votes is usually more than a point lower than my final average... I always attributed it to people just "clicking through"... |
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01/26/2004 01:23:48 AM · #16 |
| md8speed: i think people probly just click through to see everything as soon as the challenge opens up and then change their votes to something more...appropriate...at a later time. Or at least thats what we might hope! |
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01/26/2004 01:29:33 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by casualguy:
Originally posted by Koriyama:
casualguy,
you sure have a lot of time on your hands ; ) |
Koriyama...
...(a fast internet connection helps). |
I'm on a 56k modem and a tight leash - the wife doesn't approve of our telephone bill going up on account of DPC.
Interesting stuff about the brain's computational capacity.
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01/26/2004 09:13:40 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by casualguy:
Originally posted by Koriyama:
casualguy,
you sure have a lot of time on your hands ; ) |
Koriyama...
I recently read that a human brain's probable processing power is around 100 teraflops, roughly 100 trillion calculations per second. This is based on factoring the capability of the brain's 100 billion neurons, each with over 1,000 connections to other neurons, with each connection capable of performing about 200 calculations per second. (LOL) |
I repectfully disagree with your premise. Teraflops have little to do with artwork. A person cannot possibly absorb everything a photo has to express in less than five seconds.
I do feel for all of you on 56k. I appreciate that you sacrifice time to come to this sight and to help others with your voting and comments. I do worry that photos get voted on even before they are completely loaded.
5 seconds.... |
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01/26/2004 09:49:11 AM · #19 |
Someone else trying to figure out why no one else thinks their shot is fantastic!!! 5 seconds wont bump your image so get over it and get on with your next shot.
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01/26/2004 10:01:40 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Calvus:
How about one day of just plain viewing before the voting starts? |
Maybe not just setting it to one day...but could the site be coded so that the first time we go through the photos we can't vote on them?
The reason I ask, is because in 99% of the competitions i enter locally, they always preview the photos for the judges and then go back and the judges vote.
Normally they will preview the photos for 5-10 seconds and then when they vote the votes are almost instantaneous.
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01/26/2004 07:09:04 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Martin:
Someone else trying to figure out why no one else thinks their shot is fantastic!!! 5 seconds wont bump your image so get over it and get on with your next shot. |
No, I think it is someone making a suggestion to improve DPC. He has a point too.
I find it hard to believe that someone can have possibly taken enough time to study a photo if they have complete rating all the pictures in a challenge within 15 minutes of the voting starting.
I personally don't just want a "vote"...
Message edited by author 2004-01-26 19:15:27.
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01/26/2004 07:14:35 PM · #22 |
| I think we should have public floggings for those that blatantly give low scores in less than 20 seconds mindlessly. The robot will back me up on this. |
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01/26/2004 07:17:13 PM · #23 |
| It would be cool if the website can display the amount of time that a particular picture is viewed. |
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01/26/2004 07:19:10 PM · #24 |
Suggestions for more effective ways of voting are one thing, imposing rules or restrictions on it is quite another. I want the freedom to vote how I wish just like I want to be able to ride my bike down the stree without a helmut if I choose. Just because something is a good idea doesn't mean that a rule has to be made for it.
T
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01/26/2004 07:31:34 PM · #25 |
Advertisements commonly need to engage their audience in 7 seconds or less. Ordinarily, a typical ad may feature one image or more and text. So I really think your idea is unnecessary - since the mind evaluates what it sees on a number of levels, including the conscious and subconscious.
What your idea may actually do is remove that impulse to either love or hate a shot, which is all part of the appeal of photography and art. I also think many DPChallengers do what casualguy mentioned (I do) which leaves plenty of opportunity to amend the vote afterwards. I always notice increased voting activity towards the end of a challenge as people adjust their choices - only if I'm sad enough to hit 'Update' frequently though! ;) |
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