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 08/31/2007 11:04:18 AM · #26
By the way, when I got the Mark III (which was within a couple of weeks of the Mark III shipping), Lightroom would not open the raw files, but Photoshop worked fine. I had to wait for LR 1.1 to begin using it again, but I got first hand experience with Bridge and ACR 4.1 at the time (valuable experience ... enough to know that I much prefer LR over Bridge plus ACR).

08/31/2007 11:05:32 AM · #27
Originally posted by Gibun:
Nothing opens the RAWs.... but the jpegs are great... just posted some. Adobe Discussion boards also can not predict when the upgrade for this camera will become available.


camera came with canon's DPP - use it - there are on-line tutorilas if you need them. It beats the adobe stuff IMO, and you KNOW it's always gonna work with your RAW files, and it's updated a LOT more often - and includes the Dust Delete feature.
 08/31/2007 11:33:51 AM · #28
Originally posted by idnic:
BTW.......
Have you seen the new grip for it? It has wi-fi capability. You can use it to transmit to your laptop, trigger your studio lights, etc.! I heard it will retail about $1000.


sounds pretty slick...the faster 6.5 fps caught my eye too....so whatchu' sellin' your 20D for cindi?

08/31/2007 11:52:26 AM · #29
Originally posted by idnic:
I played with 2 of them yesterday (2 different lens/grip set-ups on them). What a lovely camera. I must have it. Anyone wanna buy a 20D? Mine is officially for sale! :)


Hmmm how can anyone afford the 20D with all that Idnic ribbon goo on it?

MattO
 08/31/2007 12:02:54 PM · #30
Originally posted by Gibun:
Nothing opens the RAWs.... but the jpegs are great... just posted some. Adobe Discussion boards also can not predict when the upgrade for this camera will become available.

Let's be honest, 2 ifs, if my 20D were not falling behind so fast and if I knew about the RAW issue, I might have waited. On the other hand.... whatta toy! Now I will not change my mind for anything.

I will look at the new 5D when it pitches in February... but this one is one massive improvement on the 20 D in every respect. get it, you won't be sorry.


How does 40D perform at high ISO? Is it as good as they are promising. I am also contemplating between 5D and 40D, but performance at high ISO will be the deal breaker for me--I shoot weddings. I heard raves about 5D ISO performance, but if 40D will do the same job, I would rather save money on a body and buy fast glass.
 08/31/2007 12:05:35 PM · #31
They are in stock at Ritz camera
 08/31/2007 01:33:36 PM · #32
Originally posted by Kelli:
They are in stock at Ritz camera

Hmm, Rits is charging $1,500 US,
Henry's Toronto is charging $1,400 Canadian.

..... HAHA! :-P
 08/31/2007 03:33:42 PM · #33
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by Kelli:
They are in stock at Ritz camera

Hmm, Rits is charging $1,500 US,
Henry's Toronto is charging $1,400 Canadian.

..... HAHA! :-P


You might want to go back and read that again... the $1500 US version also includes a lens... the body only is $1299.00 USD.

Ray
 08/31/2007 03:46:37 PM · #34
Ray, the race is on!

(Ray and I ordered the camera from Ritz at the same time, but I'm closer to them!

Wooooo hoooo I'll win, I'll win!

Can you tell I"m excited?
 08/31/2007 03:58:14 PM · #35
Had to laugh when I read this in my latest Canon email propaganda:

*The EOS-1Ds Mark III has not been authorized as required by the rules of the
Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be,
offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased until authorization is obtained.
08/31/2007 04:58:24 PM · #36
what would be the Big difference between the the 40D and the XTI, other than FPS and cost? //www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos40d%2Ccanon_eos400d&show=all
 08/31/2007 05:08:34 PM · #37
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
what would be the Big difference between the the 40D and the XTI, other than FPS and cost? //www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos40d%2Ccanon_eos400d&show=all


Buffer size 75 vs 27 jpeg, I think the buffer for RAW is 30.
Size of the LCD
Live preview
Spot meter
1/8000 max shutter
Focus type (diamond shape and cross-type)
Kelvin temp control
Larger battery capacity 1390 vs 720 though the 1390 battery would probably work in the Rebel

Of all these differences the buffer size would be what sells be on it. The buffer size on my current camera is 9 RAW and it is often a pain to wait for the images to be written to the card. With 30 RAW I'd probably never have to wait as I'd never fire off 30 in one shot.
 08/31/2007 05:15:47 PM · #38
Thanks for the Link fix, ok the buffer size is good, but for the money are the others going to make a better photo? it seems like the imortant things about creating a good photo are the same between the 40D and the XTI. what am I missing or is it just new toys, like the extra 1/2" live veiw.
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
what would be the Big difference between the the 40D and the XTI, other than FPS and cost? //www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos40d%2Ccanon_eos400d&show=all


Buffer size 75 vs 27 jpeg, I think the buffer for RAW is 30.
Size of the LCD
Live preview
Spot meter
1/8000 max shutter
Focus type (diamond shape and cross-type)
Kelvin temp control
Larger battery capacity 1390 vs 720 though the 1390 battery would probably work in the Rebel

Of all these differences the buffer size would be what sells be on it. The buffer size on my current camera is 9 RAW and it is often a pain to wait for the images to be written to the card. With 30 RAW I'd probably never have to wait as I'd never fire off 30 in one shot.
08/31/2007 05:19:34 PM · #39
I'd say tht biggest difference between them is the build quality, the rebel series is consumer, 20D, 30D, 40D are all prosumer and include better built bodies then the rebel series. Thats the key for most people I would think.

MattO
 08/31/2007 09:30:17 PM · #40
Originally posted by mjwood0:
I think what he means is that no third party app opens the RAWs yet. I would expect the software that came with it to do just fine. But that's a serious workflow change for many and I'm sure Adobe will get going pretty quick. Give it a month or so and I would expect support to start appearing.


Correct, the bundled software opens the raw. The raw files are over 12MB and the quality just superb. Suppose I will quickly have to learn how to use the canon software, I am just not willing to shoot jpegs when I go to South Africa in 2 weeks time.
 08/31/2007 09:57:25 PM · #41
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
Thanks for the Link fix, ok the buffer size is good, but for the money are the others going to make a better photo? it seems like the imortant things about creating a good photo are the same between the 40D and the XTI. what am I missing or is it just new toys, like the extra 1/2" live veiw.
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
what would be the Big difference between the the 40D and the XTI, other than FPS and cost? //www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos40d%2Ccanon_eos400d&show=all


Buffer size 75 vs 27 jpeg, I think the buffer for RAW is 30.
Size of the LCD
Live preview
Spot meter
1/8000 max shutter
Focus type (diamond shape and cross-type)
Kelvin temp control
Larger battery capacity 1390 vs 720 though the 1390 battery would probably work in the Rebel

Of all these differences the buffer size would be what sells be on it. The buffer size on my current camera is 9 RAW and it is often a pain to wait for the images to be written to the card. With 30 RAW I'd probably never have to wait as I'd never fire off 30 in one shot.


I forgot 1. 14 bits/channel vs 12 bits/channel RAW files.
 08/31/2007 10:00:26 PM · #42
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
Thanks for the Link fix, ok the buffer size is good, but for the money are the others going to make a better photo? it seems like the imortant things about creating a good photo are the same between the 40D and the XTI. what am I missing or is it just new toys, like the extra 1/2" live veiw.
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
what would be the Big difference between the the 40D and the XTI, other than FPS and cost? //www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos40d%2Ccanon_eos400d&show=all


Buffer size 75 vs 27 jpeg, I think the buffer for RAW is 30.
Size of the LCD
Live preview
Spot meter
1/8000 max shutter
Focus type (diamond shape and cross-type)
Kelvin temp control
Larger battery capacity 1390 vs 720 though the 1390 battery would probably work in the Rebel

Of all these differences the buffer size would be what sells be on it. The buffer size on my current camera is 9 RAW and it is often a pain to wait for the images to be written to the card. With 30 RAW I'd probably never have to wait as I'd never fire off 30 in one shot.


I forgot 1. 14 bits/channel vs 12 bits/channel RAW files.


... and another, DIGIC III processor
... and another, sRAW (smaller than full res RAW files)
... larger viewfinder
... interchangable focusing screens
... warning message for opening CF card door rather than shutdown
... more info in viewfinder or on LCD (i.e. ISO or changes to settings like AF mode and WB

Message edited by author 2007-08-31 22:04:15.
 08/31/2007 11:32:08 PM · #43
Man, that silent shutter would be nice!!
 09/01/2007 12:16:31 AM · #44
congrads, im sold
i will be ordering one very soon, i have been saving for a while to replace my XT and was gonna get the 30d but im sold on the 40d now
 09/01/2007 04:45:44 AM · #45
Hi Gibun,

Are you able to comment on the focus tracking/speed yet?

I'm seriously interested in a 40D for sports/event work, and focus speed is my biggest issue with the 20D. I've been hanging out for them to fix the MkIII issue, but if the 40D is markedly better than the 20D it'll save me $4kNZ.. :-)

Cheers, Me.
 09/01/2007 08:07:50 AM · #46
Originally posted by KiwiChris:
Hi Gibun,

Are you able to comment on the focus tracking/speed yet?

I'm seriously interested in a 40D for sports/event work, and focus speed is my biggest issue with the 20D. I've been hanging out for them to fix the MkIII issue, but if the 40D is markedly better than the 20D it'll save me $4kNZ.. :-)

Cheers, Me.


Replied by PM, will post a definate answer by tomorrow night. Sufficient to say I followed a flying bee with relative success that really impressed me. I will process those pics now and post them later/tomorrow.

In the mean time I discovered that 'Faststone' opens the raws, no problem. Best solution for now, however, is the bundled software (which is surprisingly adequate), then transfered as TIFF 16 bitt files.

Thanks to all of you who gave advise and direction in this little personal crises of CS3's inability for now.
 09/01/2007 08:37:28 AM · #47
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by Kelli:
They are in stock at Ritz camera

Hmm, Rits is charging $1,500 US,
Henry's Toronto is charging $1,400 Canadian.

..... HAHA! :-P


You might want to go back and read that again... the $1500 US version also includes a lens... the body only is $1299.00 USD.

Ray

Oops! Sweet! I wonder if I could walk into a Ritz store and buy one of these. It may be worth the trip to visit some relatives for a while & grab one.
 09/01/2007 08:49:11 AM · #48
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by Kelli:
They are in stock at Ritz camera

Hmm, Rits is charging $1,500 US,
Henry's Toronto is charging $1,400 Canadian.

..... HAHA! :-P


You might want to go back and read that again... the $1500 US version also includes a lens... the body only is $1299.00 USD.

Ray

Oops! Sweet! I wonder if I could walk into a Ritz store and buy one of these. It may be worth the trip to visit some relatives for a while & grab one.


Hardly worth the trip Strikeslip.

After conversion ($1299.99 USD = 1372.33 CDN).

I did order one and am having it shipped to the UPS store in Ogdensburg, NY, but I go there almost every week.

Ray
 09/01/2007 09:08:47 AM · #49
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by Kelli:
They are in stock at Ritz camera

Hmm, Rits is charging $1,500 US,
Henry's Toronto is charging $1,400 Canadian.

..... HAHA! :-P


You might want to go back and read that again... the $1500 US version also includes a lens... the body only is $1299.00 USD.

Ray

Oops! Sweet! I wonder if I could walk into a Ritz store and buy one of these. It may be worth the trip to visit some relatives for a while & grab one.


Hardly worth the trip Strikeslip.

After conversion ($1299.99 USD = 1372.33 CDN).

I did order one and am having it shipped to the UPS store in Ogdensburg, NY, but I go there almost every week.

Ray

I'm motivated to get one ASAP, as I'm doing an event on Sept 28th and want to have a backup camera. I wouldn't mind having some practice time with it. :-)
 09/01/2007 04:07:07 PM · #50
So, I'm seriously considering the 40D, but have a few questions. Let's start with one...

I've looked at DPReview and other sites, but I couldn't determine if the 40D has wireless remote capability (for shutter release). Does it have it? I can't imagine that it wouldn't.


Message edited by author 2007-09-04 18:25:01.
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