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01/24/2004 06:48:45 PM · #1
Originally posted by relgraphics:

General, what about a painted with light challenge for us registered users?

One of the great things about DPC is to take a technique you learn because of one challenge, and then apply it in another challenge.

We recently had a Lighting Challenge where several people used variations of this technique, including (sort-of) myself:
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01/24/2004 06:28:46 PM · #2
i vote high on pictures that
A) are creative in representing the challenge
B) aesthetically pleasing (color,comp & overall feeling)
C) something that I would put in a frame and hang on my wall
but that is just me.......
What I don't understand is some poeple are using photos that are nice and worthy of praise BUT have absolutely nothing to do with the challenge. I couldn't believe some of the random photos that were voted in the upper 50 for POV. Does anyone else think this...or am I just ranting?
01/23/2004 11:05:54 AM · #3
General, what about a painted with light challenge for us registered users?
01/22/2004 05:24:10 PM · #4
Originally posted by faidoi:

Go Team out of the Box :P

I'm still trying to find my way INTO the box.
01/22/2004 05:20:21 PM · #5
Go Team out of the Box :P
01/22/2004 04:49:14 PM · #6
Originally posted by Rooster:

yes this challenge is awfully western-centric & names the monthly zodiacs. I imagine folks will be voted down for submitting shots that represent the chinese zodiac since it is not a part of the theme. Too bad, really.

Most challenge topics have been suggested by members. It's too bad we overlooked the opportunity to coordinate with Chinese New Year -- but I don't think it was deliberate, and I'm guessing there's a good chance we'd see it next year. We don't really have a discussion about the topics beforehand (would give SC members a perceived advantage if we knew the topic a week ahead) so we couldn't change/expand it either, and we're trying to not change the challenge once it starts.
01/22/2004 03:21:11 PM · #7
i was wondering if the chinese zodiac would apply, but the rules are so specific "one of these signs", so i figured not. glad others wondered too. i will definitely not take points away if someone does something other than what was stated. i know there will be people who will because sticklers abound on here.
01/22/2004 02:22:32 PM · #8
I guess the best thing to do when we have a good idea that is "outside the box" sprung from the idea of the theme is to share it right here and get a critque on it. Right now, as a beginner, that is all I am looking for. Some know how and some ideas. So to take the majority shot and learn how the mass consensus feels via the vote, and take the "creative" shot and inspire people here on the forums. Granted, both have to be creative. But the best ideas I get are a spin off of the challenge, which, unfortantely, may not be taken/ critiqued as seriously.

I, for one, am happy and would be honored to see some of the more creative ideas and share my feedback. I don't know a whole lot about photography, but I do have an opinion of styles that I like. Which is what we all have in common and from which we can all learn from. So, if anyone has a shot, like mine, that doesn't really fit the challenge, but wants some feedback on it - feel free to ask my opinion.

I really appreciate all the feedback I got for this dragon pic.
01/22/2004 12:57:42 PM · #9
Adine,
I agree with you on both parts. I really don't mind if I don't win a ribbon I just like to see what the people think. I guess if they really spend some time on my photo and think about the challenge details they will eventually get it!
01/22/2004 12:51:07 PM · #10
Originally posted by Konador:

google is a search engine
//www.google.com

on special days they adapt their logo


Thanks
I use google daily, hadn't noticed the logo. LOL!!
01/22/2004 12:49:15 PM · #11
Thinking out of the box won't necessarily win you ribbons, but it isn't neccessarily useless either. I try to keep an open mind because I find I learn the most from the pictures that are different. Conform and you get the approval of the majority, do your own thing and maybe inspire a few or just one. There is value in both.
01/22/2004 12:38:54 PM · #12
Originally posted by relgraphics:

I have to agree with Pedro. My picture for the road sign challenge was a little out the box and is scoring low because of it. I don't think people "get it"

When time passes by you get experience, that in essence the key to sucess. I had noticed that you need to comply with the Common Sense here. If you really wants to make a photo "out of the box", fell free to it in home, and share it to us in a forum thread. Expose your work on a galery or other sharing method. But here, the challenge matter. If almost 300 people submit to a challenge and all these are in theme, only 3 will get the ribon, thought what happen to those that think out of box?
My current challenge entry, has a bit improvement of art... so bad votting is that I expect.
In DPC, you need to be able to get the theme, it is like a photojournalist. You can improve the view point, the looking of image, but can´t change the fact itself.
01/22/2004 12:30:02 PM · #13
Originally posted by brett2004:

LOL!!! How ironic is that!


Completely! So good of the Chinese to coincide their New Year with our challenge! :P
01/22/2004 12:26:45 PM · #14
google is a search engine
//www.google.com

on special days they adapt their logo
01/22/2004 12:24:54 PM · #15
Originally posted by brett2004:

Originally posted by amsmyth:

Check out Google today....very cute.


LOL!!! How ironic is that!

What / where is Google today?? I Can't find it.
01/22/2004 11:07:15 AM · #16
Originally posted by amsmyth:

Check out Google today....very cute.


LOL!!! How ironic is that!
01/22/2004 11:01:00 AM · #17
I totally understand what she is saying, that's the reason I just decided to submit the picture here on the forum and get some feedback from you guys. And I am going to try to meet the challenge with one of the listed subjects.

A score or winning isn't really why I joined though. I joined so that that I could learn to hone my skills, learn my "eye," learn new ideas from the other submittals and take pictures of subjects I wouldn't normally look twice at (all the more reason to to take a picture of one of the listed subjects).

To kinks,
My intent wasn't to be rude. And I vote on how well someone meets the challenge/ theme too (along with creativeness). I was honestly trying to make it easy on myself by using that dragon, I already had it, and it was in a controlled environment, AND I like the picture. But I came here to challenge myself, so that's what I need to do.
01/22/2004 10:52:16 AM · #18
I have to agree with Pedro. My picture for the road sign challenge was a little out the box and is scoring low because of it. I don't think people "get it"
01/22/2004 10:20:32 AM · #19
Originally posted by brett2004:


And thanks kinks. Don't mean to be rude, but I can read, and I can think outside the box as well. Every challenge I have seen so far, there are always those who venture off from what the "literal" rules say and get a little more creative with the overall theme. In my opinion, that is what we are supposed to accomplish here, creativity.

Thanks to all for the feedback!


Brett, Kinks point is valid and being new here, you may not have seen that yet. Unfortunately, thinking outside the box around here generally does not yield high scores. If I had a dollar for every thread complaining about how a shot on the edge of a topic was misunderstood and the viewers must not 'get it'...

So while you are correct that you are not required to shoot one of the listed signs of the zodiac, you had best be prepared for all of the 'does not meet the challenge' comments.

Good luck,

Pedro
01/22/2004 10:08:35 AM · #20
Check out Google today....very cute.
01/22/2004 09:36:31 AM · #21
Originally posted by brett2004:


And thanks kinks. Don't mean to be rude, but I can read, and I can think outside the box as well. In my opinion, that is what we are supposed to accomplish here, creativity.



Sry, if it sounded like a lesson.
Creativity is most important! And as long it is challenge for digital pictures, here are many ways to go. I hope you dont mind if i will use digital creativity on this time.
01/22/2004 09:22:26 AM · #22
GoodEnd and bill hk,
Thank you for the critique. I will try taking another shot of it and will post the new link. I did play around with lighting quite a bit, this is actually picture number 32! I guess I sold myself short once I finally got something that I liked. I really don't care about a score, just the critique. But, I really don't want all my critique to be about how I didn't follow the rules.

And thanks kinks. Don't mean to be rude, but I can read, and I can think outside the box as well. Every challenge I have seen so far, there are always those who venture off from what the "literal" rules say and get a little more creative with the overall theme. In my opinion, that is what we are supposed to accomplish here, creativity.

Thanks to all for the feedback!
01/22/2004 07:36:26 AM · #23
Lets read again:
Challenge Details: Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces. Take your best photo representing one of these signs.

Can somebody read here monkey or dracon!?
And during challenge everybody comments like: it is not zodiac!
01/22/2004 07:17:06 AM · #24
I saw your picture of the dragon. It´s raising picture. Welcome to DPC!
If you are interested in a serious critique about it... read the next part.

I like so much of the shadows projected in the wall, but both, shadow and real dragon in the same picture is not so good. Try to get other angle, or setup a light source behind the dragon, pointing to the wall to smooth the shadow or blows out it, or simply shoot only the shadow. I like the principal light source you had used, but the botton of the dragon needs a bit more light. Try to improve it, only changing a point of view that reveal more details of the botton, or change your light source position/angle. The focus issue, are remembered by bill_hk2002. Try to improve it. I can sugest a shallow DOF to cut out some wall texture, but I don´t think your camera can control DOF very well. And the wall texture adds a bit to the picture. Nice idea. If you try another shot, let me know.
01/22/2004 06:59:15 AM · #25
Originally posted by bill_hk2002:

In short, I think the challenge is stated in a slightly limiting non-global way, but, rules are rules, and these guys seem great about enforcing them, so, their bat, their ball...and it is a fun game.

Best and good luck,
Bill


Meeting the challenge head-on isn't part of the rules, so we won't do anything to punish you for this. The voters, on the other hand, might have their way with you, as it does say "representing one of these signs" referring to the list of 12 monthly signs.

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