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08/12/2007 04:05:00 PM · #1
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How'd They Do That
'Watching and Waiting ' by Judi

View this tutorial here.

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NOTE - When loading goes to the black screen...press play. I did this to avoid the sudden auto start of the tutorial.

Message edited by author 2007-08-12 16:15:23.
08/12/2007 04:24:53 PM · #2
Good tutorial - I enjoyed seeing the process.

As a real minor FYI, You don't need to press N for the new layer, when you are collapsing all visible on to a new layer.

Ctrl-Alt-Shift-E does the same as

Ctrl-Alt-Shift-N, then Ctrl-Alt-Shift-E

Message edited by author 2007-08-12 16:44:41.
08/12/2007 04:26:42 PM · #3
Originally posted by Gordon:

As a real minor FYI, You don't need to press N for the new layer, when you are collapsing all visible on to a new layer.

Ctrl-Alt-Shift-E does the same as

Ctrl-Alt-Shift-N, then Ctrl-Alt-Shift-E


Yes you are right...thanks Gordon.
08/12/2007 04:50:41 PM · #4
Fantastic tutorial! Not only was it interesting to see the full evolution of your image but I learnt some PS tips too.
08/12/2007 06:11:35 PM · #5
Thankyou Nuzzer. I only hope that I can continue to help others..even if only in a small way.
08/12/2007 06:19:09 PM · #6
Judi can you send me the video so I can have it saved on my machine. I like to watch them over and over again to learn things and to have to wait for this to load each time is a pain. Also I would like to add it to my website, Of course I would have your name all over the link but Just a idea
08/12/2007 06:25:32 PM · #7
Great tutorial, thanks very much for posting.

Is #060702 the magic number? - Or did you figure that colour out the first time through? :)
08/12/2007 06:33:55 PM · #8
Originally posted by jhonan:

Great tutorial, thanks very much for posting.

Is #060702 the magic number? - Or did you figure that colour out the first time through? :)


LOL!! Everything I do is magic...mwwwwwwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!! No...that is just the colour that worked on the original processing file.
08/12/2007 06:46:40 PM · #9
Great tutorial!

I would actually like to have it as a video as well
08/12/2007 06:56:39 PM · #10
Just to let you all know...I will be releasing DVD's soon with different tutorials on them...so bare with me please.
08/12/2007 07:05:07 PM · #11
Originally posted by Judi:

...so bare with me please.

mmmmmmmmmmm.... okay!
08/13/2007 06:52:09 AM · #12
Bump for the night crowd.
08/13/2007 07:39:11 AM · #13
Great tutorial Judi. Very informative and I like the choice of presentation. Much easier to follow when there is a narrative along with being able to follow the mouse around the screen rather than reading everything and then trying to find the menu items.

Thanks for sharing this. It happened to be an image that I asked myself, 'How did she do this?'

Awesome. Looking forward to more.
08/13/2007 08:12:56 AM · #14
Very useful and interesting! Thanks Judi!
08/13/2007 12:19:58 PM · #15
Great tutorial! Very clear and easy to follow. The only question I came away with was why you made the choices you did, especially regarding the optikverve layers. How did you choose which styles to use, and how did you choose which blending modes to use for each. Have you just played with the plugin long enough that you know what each style does and how they fit together? Maybe I'm asking this because I haven't played with that plugin at all, and it would be clear if I did.

Looking forward to the DVDs.
08/13/2007 12:47:11 PM · #16
Good job! That was very easy to follow. I will have some fun with that plug-in as well.
08/13/2007 12:50:44 PM · #17
Nice Job Judi
08/13/2007 02:59:01 PM · #18
This is a very nicely done tutorial. I love the video format and it's quite informative.

My only question, not knowing or ever having tried HDR, is why did you include that step with the 9 exposures and photomatix on this particular image? The end result with the layers and masks using the photoshop plugins seems to reverse the intent of having an HDR image. Could this image not be achieved similarly without the HDR process?
08/13/2007 04:07:41 PM · #19
Thanks heaps everyone. I am very pleased this tutorial is being received so well.

Originally posted by annpatt:

Great tutorial! Very clear and easy to follow. The only question I came away with was why you made the choices you did, especially regarding the optikverve layers. How did you choose which styles to use, and how did you choose which blending modes to use for each. Have you just played with the plugin long enough that you know what each style does and how they fit together? Maybe I'm asking this because I haven't played with that plugin at all, and it would be clear if I did.

Looking forward to the DVDs.


Ann...I generally duplicate the original layer once and then scroll through the Optikverve options. I usually know which ones I am going for but each image is different. So once I see them all I take note of which ones I like. (If I like it then usually it will add something to the image in the end) I then cancel out of there and duplicate the background layer sufficient amount of times. I will then usually name the layers with the Optikverve effects that I will be using to make it easier and then with each individual layer active I will then apply the effect I like.

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

This is a very nicely done tutorial. I love the video format and it's quite informative.

My only question, not knowing or ever having tried HDR, is why did you include that step with the 9 exposures and photomatix on this particular image? The end result with the layers and masks using the photoshop plugins seems to reverse the intent of having an HDR image. Could this image not be achieved similarly without the HDR process?


Thanks Jim. I was waiting for a question like this. As I said during the tut....the HDR result was similiar to the original. But it did tweak some tones that were too my liking. This aided the final effect of the image in the area of pushing certain areas that may not have been possible if I hadn't have previously done the HDR. I basically pushed the image as much as I could to allow myself as much area to play with.

I also had another question via PM that I will answer here as well. It may help someone. I was asked why I chose to do 9 exposures via HDR instead of taking the RAW image straight into PhotoMatrix.

It is simply because I find they give different results and most times prefer the 9 exposure result. Also, without knowing I was going to do a tutorial on the image, it allowed me to show you another programme for the viewers who could benefit from it.
08/14/2007 04:31:38 PM · #20
Originally posted by Judi:


I also had another question via PM that I will answer here as well. It may help someone. I was asked why I chose to do 9 exposures via HDR instead of taking the RAW image straight into PhotoMatrix.

It is simply because I find they give different results and most times prefer the 9 exposure result. Also, without knowing I was going to do a tutorial on the image, it allowed me to show you another programme for the viewers who could benefit from it.


As I said before, I haven't tried HDR yet. I bought Photomatix today and plan to play around with it.

In your tutorial, I noticed that you made multiple exposure levels from a single original image in 1/2 stop intervals. Have you ever tried working from 6 or 7 individual images, each exposed one stop apart? I know that wouldn't work out if your subject was in motion though. I'm curious if expanding the overall dynamic range to 7 full stops (-3 to +3) would produce better or more interesting results than using 9 images within a 5 stop range.
08/14/2007 04:44:13 PM · #21
Originally posted by jmsetzler:



As I said before, I haven't tried HDR yet. I bought Photomatix today and plan to play around with it.

In your tutorial, I noticed that you made multiple exposure levels from a single original image in 1/2 stop intervals. Have you ever tried working from 6 or 7 individual images, each exposed one stop apart? I know that wouldn't work out if your subject was in motion though. I'm curious if expanding the overall dynamic range to 7 full stops (-3 to +3) would produce better or more interesting results than using 9 images within a 5 stop range.


Yes you are right...actually last night I took a series of shots to put together in HDR. That particular photo (Watching & Waiting) wasn't suitable for that avenue though.

I will try the extra push to 3-3.
08/14/2007 05:26:48 PM · #22
Thanks, I love this type of tutorial, it helps me understand how to do some new things and makes me realize I much I have to learn... great job and thanks for taking the time to help others.
08/14/2007 07:24:15 PM · #23
Excellent tutorial. Thank you so much for taking the time.
08/15/2007 11:32:49 PM · #24
Wow, awesome work, Judi! And such a nice voice. =)

BTW, your output from Photomatix was an 8-bit JPEG. Since you went to the effort of using 9 input files, you may want to glean all the quality you can and save it as a 16-bit .tif.

Again, great work!

Cheers,
-Jeff
08/17/2007 08:03:45 AM · #25
Hi Judi!

I'd really love to try out your work (as I have been wanting to learn this process) but my video stream here seems very very slow. So, I can't clearly understand your instructions (it's not your problem by the way).

In relation to this, I'd also like to know if there are text tutorials that brings about similar effect?

Also if you don't want to use Optikverve plugin (using Mac), are there other ways to achieve this?

Thanks so much!
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