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 08/09/2007 11:48:39 AM · #1
Was just browsing around on deviantart.com, when I saw this.



Just wanted to tell.
 08/09/2007 11:50:51 AM · #2
Wow! Did not take long.
 08/09/2007 11:51:50 AM · #3
"Artist's Comments
floating with the wind.
I decided to post recent photos. Mostly because the photos I have on her are at leasy 2 to 3yrs of age. So basically I've been holding back *hehe*. I took this jst afew days ago because I was inspired by a very taleted dA artist. Who you ask? Well I'm not telling you'll have to find her yourself. But I hope you like the photo.

~Destiny.2007"

Give me a break! :-(
 08/09/2007 11:55:58 AM · #4
Yet another case in support of asking the challenge images be watermarked after the challenge is over.
DPC is a hotspot for great images, ready for the taking...

*sigh*
 08/09/2007 11:58:08 AM · #5
Originally posted by Brad:
Yet another case in support of asking the challenge images be watermarked after the challenge is over.
DPC is a hotspot for great images, ready for the taking...

*sigh*

Amen.
 08/09/2007 12:00:56 PM · #6
Originally posted by Brad:
Yet another case in support of asking the challenge images be watermarked after the challenge is over.
DPC is a hotspot for great images, ready for the taking...

*sigh*


Yup!
**le sigh**
 08/09/2007 12:03:27 PM · #7
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
"Artist's Comments
floating with the wind.
I decided to post recent photos. Mostly because the photos I have on her are at leasy 2 to 3yrs of age. So basically I've been holding back *hehe*. I took this jst afew days ago because I was inspired by a very taleted dA artist. Who you ask? Well I'm not telling you'll have to find her yourself. But I hope you like the photo.

~Destiny.2007"

Give me a break! :-(


I dont know...I believe her.

Hahah. SIIIIKE.
 08/09/2007 12:03:40 PM · #8
A few of the other photos in "her" portfolio look very familiar. Wouldn't surprise me if they were also stolen.
 08/09/2007 12:04:34 PM · #9
I reported her, hope it gets fixed soon.
 08/09/2007 12:06:45 PM · #10
i can't remember the site, but their idea of protection was to prevent people from accessing full-sized images unless they were registered and logged in; otherwise, all you got was a thumb.

is dpc old and established enough to start tightening its borders, or do we still need to be completely free and open to all passing through...
 08/09/2007 12:10:15 PM · #11
Originally posted by Skip:
i can't remember the site, but their idea of protection was to prevent people from accessing full-sized images unless they were registered and logged in; otherwise, all you got was a thumb.

is dpc old and established enough to start tightening its borders, or do we still need to be completely free and open to all passing through...


Wouldn't that mean no one could use their portfolios publicly anymore?

I'm not sure that free and instant registration is much of a deterrent. Sometimes even the paid members are suspect...
 08/09/2007 12:12:04 PM · #12
Originally posted by elsapo:
I reported her, hope it gets fixed soon.


last time that happened to me at Deviant Art I was told they wouldn't do anything about it.

Round about the time I stopped posting over there, strangely enough.
 08/09/2007 12:14:52 PM · #13
I like the watermark idea. I'm guessing it might be a pain to code but I don't know. The internet is filled with non-watermarked images but reputable image sites often use them.

An additional security feature I've seen is displaying images only when your cursor is over another part of the page - a thumbnail for example (not on the large picture itself). In other words, you can't just drag it to your desktop, you need to take a screen capture which morons (like many of these thieves) won't bother with.
 08/09/2007 12:19:13 PM · #14
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by Skip:
i can't remember the site, but their idea of protection was to prevent people from accessing full-sized images unless they were registered and logged in; otherwise, all you got was a thumb.

is dpc old and established enough to start tightening its borders, or do we still need to be completely free and open to all passing through...


Wouldn't that mean no one could use their portfolios publicly anymore?

dpc isn't really a portfolio site...it's too hard to navigate, you can't make comments on galleries, it's too hard to manage, blah-blah-blah. it's a photo-sharing site where people can view and comment on images, hopefully to help people recognize better photos and take better photos ;-)

Originally posted by mk:
I'm not sure that free and instant registration is much of a deterrent. Sometimes even the paid members are suspect...
there's always bad apples, and of course it's tough to deter the determined, but a few roadblocks here and there can be helpful.
 08/09/2007 12:26:29 PM · #15
this always seems to crop up.

Any/ all solutions other than corrupting the images to be unviewable don't work.
There's a button on every keyboard that bypasses every single protection scheme you can come up with if it allows the image to be viewed. Pushing a button is not a high barrier for entry for anyone, morons, thieves or not. They are already renaming the images and know what they are doing.

If you accept that statement as true (and we can go around the houses proving it again) the only thing that roadblocks do is annoy legitimate users of the site, while providing no useful barrier to theft.

Corrupting the images to be unviewable destroys the purpose of the site.

All the images currently unambiguously state that they are protected, right in the file name so anyone using them or claiming them as their own know fine well that they are using them illegally.

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 12:27:49.
 08/09/2007 12:27:51 PM · #16
Originally posted by Skip:

dpc isn't really a portfolio site...it's too hard to navigate, you can't make comments on galleries, it's too hard to manage, blah-blah-blah. it's a photo-sharing site where people can view and comment on images, hopefully to help people recognize better photos and take better photos ;-)


It might not be for you but there are plenty of people who use it as one.
 08/09/2007 01:01:15 PM · #17
Originally posted by Gordon:

Corrupting the images to be unviewable destroys the purpose of the site.

Corrupting as in watermarking?
I just made a DPChallenge watermark and ran it somewhat aggressively on a random sample of images to see the effect if something like that was added to images after the challenge. If every shot had it, after a little while, you don't really see it that much, but will be a deterrent to those that want to "borrow" them, as they now have some editing to do to get rid of it.

As an example:



The members have their copies without should they want to share them on other sites without watermarks.

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 13:02:14.
 08/09/2007 01:03:41 PM · #18
Originally posted by Brad:
Originally posted by Gordon:

Corrupting the images to be unviewable destroys the purpose of the site.

Corrupting as in watermarking?
I just made a DPChallenge watermark and ran it somewhat aggressively on a random sample of images to see the effect if something like that was added to images after the challenge. If every shot had it, after a little while, you don't really see it that much, but will be a deterrent to those that want to "borrow" them, as they now have some editing to do to get rid of it.


Yup, I pretty much think those samples you show are all ruined.

That's fine if you are selling them through a stock agency where people want to be able to do mock up pages , but ruins them from an artistic and viewer standpoint.

You have to look at the cost vs. benefit. The images look terrible to all viewers, so that you can stop some teenager claiming its her own photo on some other valueless image sharing site.

All of the images already have a prominently displayed copyright message. What does another one do ?

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 13:09:45.
 08/09/2007 01:04:22 PM · #19
What about disabling the right click option?
 08/09/2007 01:06:15 PM · #20
Originally posted by bcoble:
What about disabling the right click option?


You can't, in a meaningful way so it doesn't protect anything.
and there are a variety of useful reasons to want to be able to keep a right click context menu.

Again - no actual protection, with the only effect being making the site annoying to use.

Message edited by author 2007-08-09 13:07:14.
 08/09/2007 01:07:00 PM · #21
to post a picture from another artist without permission is in my opinion very bad, BUT to post it and clain it's your own, that's a whooooooooole new level!!! i really don't get people like that!!!!
 08/09/2007 01:11:13 PM · #22
Originally posted by Gordon:
... Yup, I pretty much think those samples you show are all ruined.

... The images look terrible to all viewers ...

Well, I believe last time I looked I would be included in an all statement and I don't agree with being lumped into your statement.

I like the direction and idea Brad has posted as a solution.

Thanks Brad!
 08/09/2007 01:15:38 PM · #23
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by Skip:

dpc isn't really a portfolio site...it's too hard to navigate, you can't make comments on galleries, it's too hard to manage, blah-blah-blah. it's a photo-sharing site where people can view and comment on images, hopefully to help people recognize better photos and take better photos ;-)


It might not be for you but there are plenty of people who use it as one.

not to go too far off-topic, but i really question the merit anyone could get out of using dpc as a portfolio site, unless the purpose/needs are so low that it doesn't matter. there are too many other cheap/near-free options that are much better suited for displaying an online portfolio, especially if the purpose is develop business. but, to each their own, and, for $25 bucks, it's not a bad place to start.
 08/09/2007 01:16:08 PM · #24
Originally posted by Gordon:

Yup, I pretty much think those samples you show are all ruined.

I did run the opacity on those rather high as an example. Backing it down a bit wouldn't hurt, but ruined? I don't agree. I did 1,400 some images now and really don't even see it much anymore, especially if it's done the same to every image.
It's the only way to deter against their theft to the novice. Anyone wants something bad enough, they are going to get it regardless of the methods.

Here are a couple examples with the opacity turned down:


08/09/2007 01:16:16 PM · #25
I like Brad's idea ... I think that it should be an option for any user that wants to protect images in their portfolio ... and possibly a mandatory thing for any challenge entries ... even though I've never had an image stolen (that I'm aware of ) I'd sign up to watermark them ... just in case ...
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