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08/08/2007 08:03:34 PM · #1 |
I saw this on MSNBC's home page and it caught my eye. It's interesting to hear the comments of the people too.
Just thought I'd share.
Story here. |
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08/08/2007 08:44:40 PM · #2 |
Here's one.
Ruger GP100 .357
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08/08/2007 08:51:47 PM · #3 |
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08/09/2007 03:08:14 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by breadfan35:
I saw this on MSNBC's home page and it caught my eye. It's interesting to hear the comments of the people too.
Just thought I'd share.
Story here. |
Interesting presentation. It'll cause some controversy here with some of the users. It may get moved to rant. But we've had a gun thread or two in the last six months so no one may be interested enough to stoke the coals. But of course, you probably knew all this at the start. ;)Maybe you could suggest a "photo of gunowners" challenge. ;)
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08/09/2007 05:16:16 AM · #5 |
imo I just find those photos funny
"look at me all tough with a gun"
Its just funny |
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08/09/2007 05:58:39 AM · #6 |
Hell, weez jest like everboduh else. Jist normal folk who likes ta shootin stuff.
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08/09/2007 06:08:23 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Shadowi6:
imo I just find those photos funny
"look at me all tough with a gun"
Its just funny |
I don't think most of those people looked like they were trying to look "tough".
They were simply pictures of them with their firearms.
How tough does that guy with his shotgun sticking out of an orange
5 gallon bucket look?
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08/09/2007 06:10:17 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by fir3bird:
Originally posted by breadfan35:
I saw this on MSNBC's home page and it caught my eye. It's interesting to hear the comments of the people too.
Just thought I'd share.
Story here. |
Interesting presentation. It'll cause some controversy here with some of the users. It may get moved to rant. But we've had a gun thread or two in the last six months so no one may be interested enough to stoke the coals. But of course, you probably knew all this at the start. ;)Maybe you could suggest a "photo of gunowners" challenge. ;) |
Actually I didn't know about the threads. I don't really do much posting or reading in the forums, just on occasion if a topic line catches my interest on the home page.
But I'd be cool with a gun owners challenge. :-) |
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08/09/2007 06:26:10 AM · #9 |
Or for those of us in countries with more strict gun control, a "Weapons" challenge. Maybe contrasted with a "Peaceful" open challenge?
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08/09/2007 06:38:06 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Matthew:
Or for those of us in countries with more strict gun control, a "Weapons" challenge. Maybe contrasted with a "Peaceful" open challenge? |
Why do you think weapons is a contrast to peace? I am one of the most peaceful people you'll ever run across. I am a pediatric nurse and paramedic, I love happiness and peace, but if you F with me or my family, I will F you up. To say peace and weapons are contrasting is a very uninformed and oblivious statement in my opinion.
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08/09/2007 07:22:30 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Matthew:
Or for those of us in countries with more strict gun control, a "Weapons" challenge. Maybe contrasted with a "Peaceful" open challenge? |
Awww heck, I was just joking about the challenge. There's no way a challenge of any type with gun or weapon in the name is going to get green lighted.
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08/09/2007 07:36:01 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
To say peace and weapons are contrasting is a very uninformed and oblivious statement in my opinion. |
I can't speak for anyone else, but I never wore my gun at a peace rally!
Similarly, when I strapped on my gun before starting my duties, I did so because of the very real possibility that I might encounter a violent situation where I might be called upon to use extreme force.
Yes there are situations where guns are not to be equated with violence, but for the most part, such is not the case.
For what it's worth, I still own several guns... but with the exception of target shooting, the end result of my use of these weapons would, in most instances, entail some form of violence.
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08/09/2007 07:52:43 AM · #13 |
My family has owned firearms in this country since 1770s, its our Second Amendment Right.
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08/09/2007 09:22:50 AM · #14 |
Cops have weapons. They are tasked with keeping the peace. Mass violence is more often perpetuated with rocks, stick and stones, not manufactured weapons, per se. I've also never worn my gun to a bar fight or boxing match, and those can often be violent.
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by ericwoo:
To say peace and weapons are contrasting is a very uninformed and oblivious statement in my opinion. |
I can't speak for anyone else, but I never wore my gun at a peace rally!
Similarly, when I strapped on my gun before starting my duties, I did so because of the very real possibility that I might encounter a violent situation where I might be called upon to use extreme force.
Yes there are situations where guns are not to be equated with violence, but for the most part, such is not the case.
For what it's worth, I still own several guns... but with the exception of target shooting, the end result of my use of these weapons would, in most instances, entail some form of violence.
Ray |
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08/09/2007 09:24:36 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by vtruan:
My family has owned firearms in this country since 1770s, its our Second Amendment Right.
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08/09/2007 09:52:44 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
Originally posted by vtruan:
My family has owned firearms in this country since 1770s, its our Second Amendment Right.
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Not sure that those are bear arms, though.
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08/09/2007 10:29:20 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Shadowi6:
imo I just find those photos funny
"look at me all tough with a gun"
Its just funny |
I always find it humorous looking through pictures of people posing with their guns. For the most part because you can EASILY see which ones are responsible, safety minded gun owners and which ones are trying to look like Captain Bad-Ass Tough Guy--look at the triggers. Those of us that have gun safety pouring out of us NEVER place our fingers on the trigger, unless ready to safely discharge the firearm at our intended target. Flip back through the article and the posted shots...notice index fingers extended or gripping the gun below the trigger guard. Now find pics of Billy Bad-Ass pointing his gun at the camera or holding it cocked to the side...I bet his finger is on the trigger. He's the one saying, "look at me all tough with a gun."
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08/09/2007 11:02:36 AM · #18 |
Not sure why, but photos of people parading around and posing with guns makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
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08/09/2007 11:13:43 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
[quote=ajdelaware] [quote=vtruan]
Not sure that those are bear arms, though. |
Hugs of course, before we shoot you :) |
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08/09/2007 12:21:55 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Cops have weapons. They are tasked with keeping the peace. Mass violence is more often perpetuated with rocks, stick and stones, not manufactured weapons, per se. I've also never worn my gun to a bar fight or boxing match, and those can often be violent.
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Yes indeed, cops do have weapons and they have them in the event they need to deal with life threatening situations. (insert violence here)
What you seem to be missing is the point that in instances other than target shooting... most activities normally associated with guns do indeed involve a level of violence, and as such are truly not viewed as being objects of peace.
Ray |
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08/09/2007 12:42:28 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
I am one of the most peaceful people you'll ever run across, ...but if you F with me or my family, I will F you up. |
No offence, but I have run across people with a more peaceful streak! ;-) Please be assured that if you messed with me, I would not try to mess you up.
(perhaps I am only brave enough to say this to your face because we have an ocean between us...!!)
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08/09/2007 01:19:41 PM · #22 |
I've got no problem with gun ownership, and no problem with people enjoying their guns.
But when mr AR-10 is standing there with a full on scoped assult weapon, claiming that he needs it for self defense, I call BS. What you need for close range defence is a handgun.
There is no reason to own an assult weapon except to make yourself feel tough. It's no different than the folks who buy a hummer so they won't get stuck in the snow.
A gun is a tool, and there are appropriate tools for particular jobs. I feel like it's appropriate to question the need for wide access to a tool designed to kill people at long range. Handguns and hunting weapons, I have no issue with. |
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08/09/2007 01:32:47 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by eamurdock:
I've got no problem with gun ownership, and no problem with people enjoying their guns.
But when mr AR-10 is standing there with a full on scoped assult weapon, claiming that he needs it for self defense, I call BS. What you need for close range defence is a handgun.
There is no reason to own an assult weapon except to make yourself feel tough. It's no different than the folks who buy a hummer so they won't get stuck in the snow.
A gun is a tool, and there are appropriate tools for particular jobs. I feel like it's appropriate to question the need for wide access to a tool designed to kill people at long range. Handguns and hunting weapons, I have no issue with. |
What the heck is an assault weapon. That term is such a SCARE WORD. The firearm he is holding is a semi-automatic rifle. There is no salt on it.
Now if you are talking a full automatic weapon then there is major rules in purchasing and owning a full auto that it makes it almost impossible to have one. Gun Control act of '68
My point is any weapon can be used in an assault. I have a butter knife I could attack an intruder with and in that sense it would be an assault weapon.
The only thing you said I agree with is that a firearm is a tool. I am just as capable of hitting a target at 100 yards with a pistol as I am a rifle.
And for close in defense a shotgun is the best personal home defense firearm as the projectiles are unlikely to penetrate a wall. Where as a handgun round or rifle round could. |
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08/09/2007 01:34:34 PM · #24 |
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08/09/2007 01:42:58 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
[quote=eamurdock] I am just as capable of hitting a target at 100 yards with a pistol as I am a rifle.
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Really? Yes, I can hit a barn accurately with a pistol at that distance to... ;) |
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