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07/13/2007 03:37:23 PM · #26
Originally posted by Brad:

Here's a bit on how to do that for anyone reading this thread: (scroll down)
1/3 or 1/2 EV steps


Heh - that's EXACTLY what I did. My first few shots even looked like yours in terms of too dark foreground, followed by too bright background, followed by just right. :) Glad to know I did it the right way!
07/13/2007 03:58:15 PM · #27
I shoot mostly in Av mostly because DOF is usually my primary concern.

If I'm shooting stuff that moves or doing street photography, I'll switch to Tv to control the motion (either freez or blur).

However, shooting with flash indoors and it's M all the way. It's the only good way to control both the flash and the ambient exposures.

For snaps and the like, I find P to be perfectly acceptable, as is the Green "AUTO" mode.

I rarely, if ever use the so-called "scene" modes.

07/13/2007 04:01:30 PM · #28
manual with auto WB in RAW
I'm surprised there are so many auto-shooter … I was just telling someone that if I need a quick reaaction shot, I often am not qucik enough (from a car for example).
07/13/2007 05:14:24 PM · #29
Originally posted by metatate:

manual with auto WB in RAW
I'm surprised there are so many auto-shooter … I was just telling someone that if I need a quick reaaction shot, I often am not qucik enough (from a car for example).


This is exactly why I wonder about this issue. The 'missed shots' because a photographer couldn't get the camera set up properly in time to make it.

I have developed a new habit over the last year or so. When I finish shooting ANY shoot, I set my camera back to (P)rogram mode at ISO 400. When I leave the camera set up this way, I can always rip of a 'quick' photo whenever I need one and the results will be acceptable.


07/13/2007 05:18:37 PM · #30
yes. everything manual. sometimes even the WB is manual ;)

I think it depends on what kind of photography you like to do. For me, there's no use of putting it back to P-mode (like jmsetzler) or any mode, because (almost) every photo I take is well thought about before I take the shot. I'm not an intuitive photographer.

To be honest, I don't even know how to use AV- or that other mode. I'm comfortable with this way :)

edit to add:

Why would a photographer choose manual mode for everything? Because she learnt it that way at school ;)

Message edited by author 2007-07-13 17:21:09.
07/13/2007 05:31:47 PM · #31
Originally posted by biteme:

yes. everything manual. sometimes even the WB is manual ;)

I think it depends on what kind of photography you like to do. For me, there's no use of putting it back to P-mode (like jmsetzler) or any mode, because (almost) every photo I take is well thought about before I take the shot. I'm not an intuitive photographer.

To be honest, I don't even know how to use AV- or that other mode. I'm comfortable with this way :)

edit to add:

Why would a photographer choose manual mode for everything? Because she learnt it that way at school ;)


I shoot very little in the P mode actually. The vast majority of my photos are shot in Aperture Priority mode. I just don't leave my camera set that way when I finish shooting.
07/13/2007 05:32:55 PM · #32
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Originally posted by biteme:

yes. everything manual. sometimes even the WB is manual ;)

I think it depends on what kind of photography you like to do. For me, there's no use of putting it back to P-mode (like jmsetzler) or any mode, because (almost) every photo I take is well thought about before I take the shot. I'm not an intuitive photographer.

To be honest, I don't even know how to use AV- or that other mode. I'm comfortable with this way :)

edit to add:

Why would a photographer choose manual mode for everything? Because she learnt it that way at school ;)


I shoot very little in the P mode actually. The vast majority of my photos are shot in Aperture Priority mode. I just don't leave my camera set that way when I finish shooting.


hmhm, that's what I meant. You put it back to P-mode.

;)
07/13/2007 05:35:23 PM · #33
TV (Shutter Priority) combined with spot-metering as standby mode;
AV (Aperture Priority) occasionally to determine a specific depth of field;
M (Manual) when TV and AV cannot achieve the desired exposure;
P to get a shot faster than I can think under unpredictable conditions.

Message edited by author 2007-07-13 17:35:47.
07/13/2007 06:22:29 PM · #34
Originally posted by chaimelle:

I use AV mode 95% of the time. I have started underexposing 1 stop because I like the results better. Not sure if that is a Canon thing, or just within my camera, but it seems to give better contrast and colors.


I also have started to underexpose little bit (very recently) and then my results have improved.

By the way I always shoot manual mode. (never tried anything else).

07/13/2007 06:41:39 PM · #35
Originally posted by zeuszen:


P to get a shot faster than I can think under unpredictable conditions.

Funny about this, as I just used P mode for teh first time on Wednesday when Amy ( Puzzled) and I went down to Tijuana. I set it in P mode so I could have RAW, and sometimes had a split second to raise the camera and click, as was the case here when a couple of Policia went by on the back of a pickup truck.


That was converted from raw in all standard/defaults with nothing done to it.
I couldn't have done it better myself in those conditions.
07/13/2007 06:46:30 PM · #36
Originally posted by Brad:


I couldn't have done it better myself in those conditions.


This is the crux of the discussion, I think.

There obviously is nothing wrong with shooting in whatever mode you choose. It's just problematic when the mode you choose doesn't allow you to get what you want :)
07/13/2007 06:55:07 PM · #37
For me it's full manual all the way for motorsports. Once I have the correct exposure for the conditions I don't need the camera switching things around on me. Imagine shooting a black car and then a white car and the mess any auto mode could make of that.

If the sun starts popping in & out of the clouds a couple of clicks on the wheel sorts things out. I just have to be on my toes.

For everything else, Av.
07/13/2007 07:29:52 PM · #38
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

There obviously is nothing wrong with shooting in whatever mode you choose. It's just problematic when the mode you choose doesn't allow you to get what you want :)

I solved that by not taking any shots. I just carry the camera around so I look like a photographer. It saves tons of editing time too. I hardly ever have to run Photoshop. :)

07/13/2007 07:34:10 PM · #39
Originally posted by Mick:


I just carry the camera around so I look like a photographer.


I'll swap you a much lighter 350D for that 5D. I'd hate for you to strain your back or something ;-P

Ooops, nevermind, you've got a XT already.

Message edited by author 2007-07-13 19:34:52.
07/13/2007 07:41:11 PM · #40
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Mick:


I just carry the camera around so I look like a photographer.


I'll swap you a much lighter 350D for that 5D. I'd hate for you to strain your back or something ;-P

Ooops, nevermind, you've got a XT already.

Yeah, I actually bought three of them at Christmas time a while ago. Besides, I really like the way the 5D fits my hand. :)
07/13/2007 07:48:54 PM · #41
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Originally posted by Brad:


I couldn't have done it better myself in those conditions.


This is the crux of the discussion, I think.

There obviously is nothing wrong with shooting in whatever mode you choose. It's just problematic when the mode you choose doesn't allow you to get what you want :)


You just have to know what each mode allows
07/13/2007 07:59:18 PM · #42
When i first got the camera i stuck to P mode and looked at the settings in the display to figure out what was going on.

Now I shoot in AV 90% of the time to get me where I need to be, but if i'm doing macro shots on my 300mm lens then i'll use TV at about 1/400 sec and change the ISO/exposure accordingly to prevent that darned camera shake that so plagues handheld macro shots.

Manual never really gets used as of yet unless my wife feels like messing around with my camera (shes a purist and uses an old 1970s Minolta film camera).
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