30ish days of all things floral ... July 2007

Pentax SMC DA 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR

07/06/2007 04:55:09 PM · #277

Okay.......I have seen a bunch of comments, not by my take incorrect, but different, and I'd like to explore something.

This is one of my favorite pics I have *EVER* shot, and precisely for the soft focus and the muted colors.

I love the greys and browns in the background, and that soft color just really does it for me.

I have this framed in my bedroom and I see it virtually every day.

In many cases, my muted presentations are as I want them.

I *do* want input as to how to make them better, it's just I may not always like the result.

FWIW, I entered this in the Postcard challenge and was informed in no uncertain terms that this was NOT a good pic for a postcard.

The funny thing is that I am always huntiong for the sublime and unusual if I ever do send postcards, and I'd buy a box of these in a heartbeat.

So......I got one of those 4X6 adhesive backs that's a postcard and sent it across the country to a fellow DPCer.

My @$$ it ain't a postcard!

Prism

Pentax K-30

07/06/2007 05:09:55 PM · #278

Day 6

Edit to add: off to catch up on comments....

Message edited by author 2007-07-06 17:10:54.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Lens

07/06/2007 05:24:33 PM · #279

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Okay.......I have seen a bunch of comments, not by my take incorrect, but different, and I'd like to explore something.

.....

I *do* want input as to how to make them better, it's just I may not always like the result.

Just so I understand what you're saying here, you want to explore how people might see an image differently, and you're warning us that even though you like the input, you may not find it all that useful or to your taste? Right?

That's pretty normal. We all see things differently. For some images this difference becomes more pronounced, others the perception seems to be more even across the board, but still often different from viewer to viewer. I don't think it's anything to worry about or get upset over. For myself, I try to accept [most] comments with gratitude for the person that takes the time and say something about my photo - a few here and there seems to be designed to be hurtful, but they're rare.

As for you sticking to your guns, hey, that's a sign of maturity :) I think in the end we all need to figure out what works for us. Advise on how to do it better is helpful, but it is YOUR picture, YOUR view, YOUR art, and in the end, only YOU will make the decision of what works for you. He, he, he, in some cases, what works for you will not work for very many other people, but, c'est la vie :)

Elaine

Canon EOS R5

07/06/2007 05:24:49 PM · #280

I have read the terms tone mapping and contrast mapping. What exactly are they and what tools do you use? (If the answer is too involved a new thread could be started. I don't want to take away from the flowers!)

07/06/2007 05:24:55 PM · #281

Am I being preachy today or what!!!! :)

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

07/06/2007 05:25:29 PM · #282

Originally posted by chaimelle:

There are quite a few threads that deal with these issues:

tone mapping threads

contrast mapping

(and probably more)

Message edited by author 2007-07-06 17:30:07.

ephln

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

07/06/2007 05:45:45 PM · #283

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Okay.......I have seen a bunch of comments, not by my take incorrect, but different, and I'd like to explore something.

.....

I *do* want input as to how to make them better, it's just I may not always like the result.

Just so I understand what you're saying here, you want to explore how people might see an image differently, and you're warning us that even though you like the input, you may not find it all that useful or to your taste? Right?

That's pretty normal. We all see things differently. For some images this difference becomes more pronounced, others the perception seems to be more even across the board, but still often different from viewer to viewer. I don't think it's anything to worry about or get upset over. For myself, I try to accept [most] comments with gratitude for the person that takes the time and say something about my photo - a few here and there seems to be designed to be hurtful, but they're rare.

As for you sticking to your guns, hey, that's a sign of maturity :) I think in the end we all need to figure out what works for us. Advise on how to do it better is helpful, but it is YOUR picture, YOUR view, YOUR art, and in the end, only YOU will make the decision of what works for you. He, he, he, in some cases, what works for you will not work for very many other people, but, c'est la vie :)

Oh dear...I hope I haven't made any comments that have offended someone. My apologies if I have. I appreciate the comments on my photo's especially when they see something I haven't that can make the image more pleasing. Will try not to nit pic in the future.

Message edited by author 2007-07-06 17:52:38.

jmritz

Fujifilm X30

Custom Made Pinhole

07/06/2007 05:48:14 PM · #284

I just press that little thingy on the top right and pray.

07/06/2007 05:51:46 PM · #285

Originally posted by ephln:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Okay.......I have seen a bunch of comments, not by my take incorrect, but different, and I'd like to explore something.

.....

I *do* want input as to how to make them better, it's just I may not always like the result.

Just so I understand what you're saying here, you want to explore how people might see an image differently, and you're warning us that even though you like the input, you may not find it all that useful or to your taste? Right?

That's pretty normal. We all see things differently. For some images this difference becomes more pronounced, others the perception seems to be more even across the board, but still often different from viewer to viewer. I don't think it's anything to worry about or get upset over. For myself, I try to accept [most] comments with gratitude for the person that takes the time and say something about my photo - a few here and there seems to be designed to be hurtful, but they're rare.

As for you sticking to your guns, hey, that's a sign of maturity :) I think in the end we all need to figure out what works for us. Advise on how to do it better is helpful, but it is YOUR picture, YOUR view, YOUR art, and in the end, only YOU will make the decision of what works for you. He, he, he, in some cases, what works for you will not work for very many other people, but, c'est la vie :)

Oh dear...I hope I haven't made any comments that have offended someone. My apologies if I have. I appreciate the comments on my photo's especially when they see something I haven't that can make the image more pleasing.

I love your comments. Keep it up.

There's way too little commenting going on the way it is, the last thing we need is for people to start chickening out even more. :(

07/06/2007 05:52:06 PM · #286

Originally posted by jmritz:

I just press that little thingy on the top right and pray.

Begs the question, for what?

jmritz

Fujifilm X30

Custom Made Pinhole

07/06/2007 05:54:24 PM · #287

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by jmritz:
I just press that little thingy on the top right and pray.

Begs the question, for what?

Anything at this point.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Lens

07/06/2007 05:55:21 PM · #288

Originally posted by jmritz:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by jmritz:
I just press that little thingy on the top right and pray.

Begs the question, for what?

Anything at this point.

Ahhh! BTW, congratulations on the good news!!!!

Elaine

Canon EOS R5

07/06/2007 05:57:01 PM · #289

Thank you Ursula. I knew someone would point me in the right direction.

As for comments, I sometimes agree and sometimes disagree, but either way I usually learn something. I truly appreciate any comment that is made with the intent to share--and most are, especially in this thread.

This challenge has become more than just a place to share photos with a common theme, and I hope it continues!

annig

Canon EOS-7D

Tamron AF 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical(IF)Macro

07/06/2007 05:58:08 PM · #290

Originally posted by jmritz:

Just got back from the doctors office. A scheduled visit for my blood test after my cancer major prostrate surgery. He got right to it. Told me I didn't have any more cancer and my PSA levels were way down. When I was leaving he said, your a good man John. I can't wipe this foolish grin off my face, how embarrassing.

YAY!! John, that is WONDERFUL news! You should GRIN GRIN GRIN!!! Take out your wife & dance & sing! It is such a blessing to see life as though it may end & then to find, well, yes, it will, but later...
god bless you & your family! stay well...
~Anni

Message edited by author 2007-07-06 17:58:28.

RKT

Canon EOS-60D

Sigma 85mm f/1.4 for Canon

07/06/2007 06:46:08 PM · #291

...and Happy Friday peeps!

stargazer05766

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM

07/06/2007 06:54:57 PM · #292

Day 6 Viola

07/06/2007 07:07:49 PM · #293

Okay.......here's my actual shot from today....I think I'll be able to come up with as many as two weeks worth of lily variants!

07/06/2007 07:23:26 PM · #294

Originally posted by ursula:

I don't like the word warn in this context......more like apologize beforehand if a trick/technique/helping hand that you give me may not show up in my style for the long run. I'll try it and add it to my knowledge base and use it some time.

I want to learn EVERYTHING!!!!

That won't happen, but an awful lot of the type of photographer that I am today relative to technique is from what I've seen, and certainly learned, here.

Originally posted by ursula:

That's pretty normal. We all see things differently. For some images this difference becomes more pronounced, others the perception seems to be more even across the board, but still often different from viewer to viewer. I don't think it's anything to worry about or get upset over. For myself, I try to accept [most] comments with gratitude for the person that takes the time and say something about my photo - a few here and there seems to be designed to be hurtful, but they're rare.

Yeah.....and the best thing to do over a comment you don't like is to find the truth in it that pissed you off......8>)

I got my nose all out of joint over a comment once, tore off a scathing rebuke, and then had to eat my words later when I found out that the comment was more "On" than I wanted to see, and the commenter was trying to be helpful. I have found since him to be a good guy, and luckily, a decent and forgiving friend.

Originally posted by ursula:

As for you sticking to your guns, hey, that's a sign of maturity :)

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT! Not in my case! More like hard-headed!!!!

Originally posted by ursula:

I think in the end we all need to figure out what works for us. Advise on how to do it better is helpful, but it is YOUR picture, YOUR view, YOUR art, and in the end, only YOU will make the decision of what works for you. He, he, he, in some cases, what works for you will not work for very many other people, but, c'est la vie :)

I guess what I was trying to say in the first place has more to do with the fact that I welcome any and all suggestions with any comments. I am so incredibly daunted by the amount of information I think I need to be barely competent at this stuff, much less accomplished.

When someone like Joe Dannels, or Pedro, or Robert, Gringo, or any of the host of others who willingly take the time, patiuently, with us neophytes (You too, Ursula!) I know I appreciate the heck out of it!

And there isn't a day goes by here at DPC that I don't learn something and/or see something different that I like.

I'll be reupping my membership here with great pride at having learned soooooooooo much in a year......and not having gotten chucked out, either!

Message edited by author 2007-07-06 19:36:41.

07/06/2007 07:30:08 PM · #295

Originally posted by ephln:

Oh, PLEASE offend me some more with your comments!!!!!!8>)

No dear, your lovely comments are MOST welcome.

IMO, I NEED more gut level, and experienced suggestions to move forward in my learning. I would NEVER have tried curves on that lily pic with the spider if Robert wouldn't have suggested it. Show of hands for who thinks that one's better???? I thought so!.....8>)

I tried it some more, and I'm going to be less afraid of the curves now since I accidently did one that came out well.

What happens to me is that I don't get the real story on what I'm doing, luck into a nice effect, and then can never do it again!

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

07/06/2007 07:37:11 PM · #296

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Oh, cool. Since you like honesty, I guess I can say that I couldn't figure out from your first post if you were somewhat angry or what it was that you were trying to get at. :)

When it comes to commenting, I really wish for two things:

(1) to get comments where people tell what they really think about an image - my daughters are good at that, they tell me, "Hey, it's OK, but boring." Or, "Hey, that looks soooo cheesy!" Or, "Wow, I like that, funkeeee!" I don't always trust their judgment, but it's very helpful to get their reaction, because I tend to fall in love too much with my own stuff.

(2) to be able to give comments that are truly honest, and yet helpful. I chicken out of commenting way too often, because I keep thinking, it's just my opinion, who cares what my opinion is. And, because in the past when I've made comments that were honest (and trying to be helpful), people frequently don't take them too well. It's like I'm saying something nasty about their kid or so. And then others get on board (and even take sides at times) and it gets ugly. I don't like that. I don't quite know how to get around this.

Message edited by author 2007-07-06 19:50:39.

ephln

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

07/06/2007 07:55:44 PM · #297

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I guess what I was trying to say in the first place has more to do with the fact that I welcome any and all suggestions with any comments. I am so incredibly daunted by the amount of information I think I need to be barely competent at this stuff, much less accomplished.

When someone like Joe Dannels, or Pedro, or Robert, Gringo, or any of the host of others who willingly take the time, patiuently, with us neophytes (You too, Ursula!) I know I appreciate the heck out of it!

And there isn't a day goes by here at DPC that I don't learn something and/or see something different that I like.

I'll be reupping my membership here with great pride at having learned soooooooooo much in a year......and not having gotten chucked out, either!

Oh, cool. Since you like honesty, I guess I can say that I couldn't figure out from your first post if you were somewhat angry or what it was that you were trying to get at. :)

When it comes to commenting, I really wish for two things:

(1) to get comments where people tell what they really think about an image - my daughters are good at that, they tell me, "Hey, it's OK, but boring." Or, "Hey, that looks soooo cheesy!" Or, "Wow, I like that, funkeeee!" I don't always trust their judgment, but it's very helpful to get their reaction, because I tend to fall in love too much with my own stuff.

(2) to be able to give comments that are truly honest, and yet helpful. I chicken out of commenting way too often, because I keep thinking, it's just my opinion, who cares what my opinion is. And, because in the past when I've made comments that were honest (and trying to be helpful), people frequently don't take them too well. It's like I'm saying something nasty about their kid or so. And then others get on board (and even take sides at times) and it gets ugly. I don't like that. I don't quite know how to get around this.

Please don't chicken out when you comment on my images! I for one...care about your opinions and value them. Bear has some great ideas and opinions also. Keep em coming!

07/06/2007 08:18:02 PM · #298

BTW, Evelyn, your burst of color is a funny shot to me. Here's my "Hummingbird Feeder" from the Ordinary Things side project......8>)

Message edited by author 2007-07-06 20:18:45.