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05/27/2002 08:42:30 AM · #1 |
I mentioned this once before, briefly, but I think it's an important idea. In the final ranking on each challenge, the photos that fall at the extremities, very good and very bad, seem like obvious choices to most people. Those that are in the top 10 or so are usually both technically and artistically good photos. Those that fall at the bottom are technically and artistically lacking.
However, the majority of the photos seem to me to just end up randomly mixed together, with no real reason behind something coming in the 20s and something coming in the 60s or 70s. I'm not just talking about my own :P. I've felt this since I started voting, 2 weeks before I started contributing.
The reason for this is because photos that are interesting but badly photographed or well photographed but boring can all score about the same, give or take. I think the ranking at the end for these is almost meaningless. If there was one ranking for technical merit and one for artistic merit, I think people would be a lot more satisfied with the results. They'd know what they were doing right and what they were doing wrong with their photos.
Also, last time I mentioned this someone said it would be easier to vote something 8 for creativity and 4 for execution then to sit and stare at it and wonder which aspect should be more important than the other in determining its score. The way Swashbuckler does this is great, but other people are far less systematic and probably puzzle about it for a while on some. I know I do. I end up staring at some photos that I don't particularly like for ages wondering what the hell to rate it, and don't always end up commenting on how I arrived at the score because that takes so long.
I think it could be implemented on each photo's voting page with two sets of radio buttons and a 'vote' button, perhaps.
What do you all think? |
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05/27/2002 09:02:03 AM · #2 |
Maybe. I have a similar idea, but I am trying to think it thru in order to articulate it here properly.
It has to do with check box options to explain your score. Example: Lighting, composition, background, focus, etc...
I don't know... Just toying with the idea. |
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05/27/2002 09:16:44 AM · #3 |
You are asking people who, 90% have no clue how to begin to rank technical and artistic merit.
Lisae...I think we as photographers are stuck..at least at this site..with a limited amount of useful feedback and need to make what we can from it.
Even with a modified vote system I think you will end up with still a totally confused, indifferent, whatever response the same as now except you would have 2 uninvolved votes instead of 1.
I can relate exactly to your suggestion but fear that it is not something intended for this site. Which, in the long run, is o.k. really. |
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05/27/2002 09:33:08 AM · #4 |
totally screwed this up....but I was just trying to post a picture...
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/27/2002 9:36:11 AM. |
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05/27/2002 09:34:46 AM · #5 |
oops, sorry
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/27/2002 9:35:25 AM. |
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05/27/2002 10:07:24 AM · #6 |
Man, it takes long enough to vote on them all as it is. I always try to comment on both aspects of a picture if, say, it was a great idea artistically, but poorly exectued.
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05/27/2002 10:20:01 AM · #7 |
| i pitched a similar idea to langdon on irc last week. he did not say whether or not things would be going that way. i think we should have to vote between 1 and 10 for composition, relevance to challenge, and creativity. photographic quality is an unfair category at this point. perhaps when people are grouped by experience it would be more applicable, as price and power of camera generally seem to follow. |
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