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06/29/2007 11:58:21 AM · #1
Originally posted by Fromac:

Just thinking out loud on this, but what about some free-association of words/notions/phrases related to photography, and see if any of them work as a business name? I'll start with a few...just off the top of my head...

ageless, eternal, captured, caught, frozen, fixed, stopped, kept, precious, momentary, flash, lightning, bolt, freeze, frame, still, stillness, serenity, peace...

Keep it going...


Great idea here.....

How about Alluring Moments, Or Monica's Moments, Or Frozen Time Photography.... Something like that?

edit... actually I think Frozen Time would work better for event type photography but I like it.

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06/29/2007 11:30:26 AM · #2
Shannon,

That bus plan guide is kick ass, you will see my business soon, launch is expected for next month. Its not a photography site but its cool.

Another thing that really helped me and my bus partner was the SCORE group. Its service corps of retired executives. Essentially old men who offer consulting services to startups for free. Amazing group with even more amazing connections. Our SCORE rep was a semi retired CPA with one of the largest firms in Vermont. Not a bad guy to know.

Here is the SCORE link for VT, I am sure there is one where you live. www.score84.org.

Let me know how it goes.

06/28/2007 12:06:56 AM · #3
cool thread! im doing the same thing myself right now. thanks for posted that business plan jmnuggy, i just printed that out and will be using it as a guideline. good luck monica !!! :)
06/25/2007 10:50:00 PM · #4
I wouldn't go with M&M as it sounds both like Eminem and the sweets, and unless you're really into stock photography I doubt you'll be taking many pictures of either.

How about Monik Photography?

It's even almost an anagram of Nikon.
06/25/2007 08:28:10 PM · #5
Originally posted by Jmnuggy:

Thats fine for now, just keep your "business" stuff seperated from your personal stuff. You should want to know how much youre making from photography. At the end of the year you should pay taxes on this money, but I would say most don't until they are established. Eventually some legal benefits come from being a business, such as not having your personal assets on the line.

Being a talented photographer is really the easiest part of making this hobby into a business. Most people will fail because of their business model or lack of one. It really would help you to start learning some basic business or at least some basic accounting. There really is no way to avoid this stuff.


Yea, yea! lol. I know. And I'm smart enough to learn, I just hate business and never had any interest in it so I never did. I need to find a mentor or something... lol.
06/25/2007 09:22:26 AM · #6
Thats fine for now, just keep your "business" stuff seperated from your personal stuff. You should want to know how much youre making from photography. At the end of the year you should pay taxes on this money, but I would say most don't until they are established. Eventually some legal benefits come from being a business, such as not having your personal assets on the line.

Being a talented photographer is really the easiest part of making this hobby into a business. Most people will fail because of their business model or lack of one. It really would help you to start learning some basic business or at least some basic accounting. There really is no way to avoid this stuff.

06/22/2007 09:12:34 PM · #7
Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by escapetooz:


Ummm... wouldn't they just write the check to me regardless of my photo name?


They don't. They like to write checks to the business name. You'd have to open a business checking account in order to cash them.


I think this all got confused... I meant more freelance... like perhaps I'd be an... independent contractor and pay taxes at the end of the year, not like HERE I AM, I AM A BUSINESS. I'm totally not ready for that any time soon. I know nothing about business.

How about I say... make checks out to Monica Mulder... end of problem? Busniess account. Grumble... this is all over my head.

Strike the word business from the record.
06/22/2007 09:08:31 PM · #8
Originally posted by escapetooz:


Ummm... wouldn't they just write the check to me regardless of my photo name?


They don't. They like to write checks to the business name. You'd have to open a business checking account in order to cash them.
06/22/2007 09:06:43 PM · #9
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Your business name should be the web name - less confusion, easier to find you, etc.

Now if it's NOT your name, how are you going to cash the checks people write to you? A business account as a DBA - banks just can't give accounts to ficticious names - federal fraud laws and all - so now you have to register the name as a DBA with your state. May be cheap, may not. Here in PA it requires running an ad in the local paper (legal announcements section).
You'll need to get whatever business licenses you need, sales tax collection for the state or local, etc.

Since you've not got a real business, talk to a CPA about tax issues - what's deductible, and categories and (advertising, promotion, gear you expense and some you capitalize, etc) and how he prefers you keep records - let a CPA do you taxes, it's not that expensive, it's a lot better than guessing on your own, and it's a tax deductible business expense too.


Ummm... wouldn't they just write the check to me regardless of my photo name?
06/22/2007 08:38:59 AM · #10
Your business name should be the web name - less confusion, easier to find you, etc.

Now if it's NOT your name, how are you going to cash the checks people write to you? A business account as a DBA - banks just can't give accounts to ficticious names - federal fraud laws and all - so now you have to register the name as a DBA with your state. May be cheap, may not. Here in PA it requires running an ad in the local paper (legal announcements section).
You'll need to get whatever business licenses you need, sales tax collection for the state or local, etc.

Since you've not got a real business, talk to a CPA about tax issues - what's deductible, and categories and (advertising, promotion, gear you expense and some you capitalize, etc) and how he prefers you keep records - let a CPA do you taxes, it's not that expensive, it's a lot better than guessing on your own, and it's a tax deductible business expense too.
06/20/2007 09:21:26 PM · #11
Originally posted by wavelength:

You're not going to name it Llamatography?

:P


aww... sorry, didn't want to offend but, no.
06/20/2007 08:57:00 PM · #12
You're not going to name it Llamatography?

:P
06/20/2007 08:01:15 PM · #13
Good luck!

You certainly live in an area with lots of photographers. I suppose that's both good and bad. Lots of peers to hang out with and form a network, but also lots of competition. Have Fun.

06/20/2007 07:20:01 PM · #14
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Photos by Monica.

Coming up with a name isn't really the first step though. It's probably somewhere in the middle to end. It's just a fun step...


lol yes ive had this pointed out to me. I'd like the thing I've already begun the first steps... you know, the photography. As far as the business thing, I think I meant for more that I wanted to start freelance work, not open up a studio (def can't do that right now).
06/20/2007 05:35:37 PM · #15
Why not just "Allure Photography". Something starting with an A comes first in the phone book and people usually start calling at the beginning if they haven't been referred somewhere.
06/20/2007 05:18:46 PM · #16
Photos by Monica.

Coming up with a name isn't really the first step though. It's probably somewhere in the middle to end. It's just a fun step...
06/20/2007 05:13:38 PM · #17
Originally posted by escapetooz:

...my name doesn't have a ring to it... "Monica Mulder Photography". The name Mulder just isn't workin for me.

Curious -- it works for me!

Originally posted by escapetooz:

My model mayhem photographer name is "Elemental Allure" but I wonder if it is too cheasy? I feel like it probably is.
Yeah, I prefer your name.
06/20/2007 05:05:04 PM · #18
Just thinking out loud on this, but what about some free-association of words/notions/phrases related to photography, and see if any of them work as a business name? I'll start with a few...just off the top of my head...

ageless, eternal, captured, caught, frozen, fixed, stopped, kept, precious, momentary, flash, lightning, bolt, freeze, frame, still, stillness, serenity, peace...

Keep it going...

06/20/2007 05:00:11 PM · #19
I prefer the x-file jokes to the Lewinski ones so that's good... lol.
06/20/2007 04:59:00 PM · #20
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

"Eyes Open Photography" has worked very well for me, my domain is //www.EyesOpen.co.uk
I really recommend going with something more original than the 'name' photography which everyone does, find something that stands out and brands you!
You say in your profile that making photos with emotion is important to you, make this part of your branding. Think of a name that cunjures up the emotions you like to capture. Build an identity!


I like that idea... I just fear everything I come up with will limit who I appeal to and be cheesy. Like... I may like one name for models but would it work for family stuff?
06/20/2007 04:50:59 PM · #21
Originally posted by escapetooz:

...though I'm not sure what I'd what the logo thingie or "real" name to be either.


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06/20/2007 04:44:31 PM · #22
"Eyes Open Photography" has worked very well for me, my domain is //www.EyesOpen.co.uk
I really recommend going with something more original than the 'name' photography which everyone does, find something that stands out and brands you!
You say in your profile that making photos with emotion is important to you, make this part of your branding. Think of a name that cunjures up the emotions you like to capture. Build an identity!
06/20/2007 04:12:26 PM · #23
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

"Monica Mulder, Photographer" that works for me. I prefer "er" to "y", it sounds more focused and on-point. I think "Elemental Allure" is very cheesy, and I wouldn't want to be hung with that one for the rest of my career. It might work if your only business was, say, glamour photography, but you need to be aware that choices you make now are ones you will be stuck with for a long time as the business grows.

R.


Thanks for the imput. Very true, a name like that does limit my scope a lot. That's why I used it on Model Mayhem as opposed to anywhere else.
06/20/2007 04:10:59 PM · #24
Originally posted by wsl:

For a website name, remember these simple facts.

1 - it has to be recognizable
2 - it has to be easy to remember
3 - it should be something that people might come across even without knowing you
4 - it should roll off the tongue

photography itself is a long word, and with the number of photographers out there with that included in the name, someone looking for you, but only remembering the photography is going to have a billion sites to look thru. You can get away with long words, but it has to be something that will stick in their mind for it to work.

As you said above, mold itself is bad, but if people associate that word and it makes them remember, then its doing its purpose. Your domain name is just the gateway to you. Beyond that, it doesn't symbolize you or your work, and you want people to remember you and go to your site even if they lost your card or url. My last name is Weeast, rhymes with yeast, and so growing up Weeast Infection was one of many nicknames. Gross yes, but people don't forget it. So I use weeast-infection.com as well as a few others all pointed at the same place. I just use it as a holder site right now to test templates for clients, but I'll have my portfolio up there soon, so don't discount something that you might think associates you with something bad. If its something that sticks out, they'll remember. And the logo on your site, doesn't have to repeat it, you can have the site say whatever you want. Its only your address.


True, though I'm not sure what I'd what the logo thingie or "real" name to be either.

LOL. My friends name is Easton. So... yea, heard... used that one a few times before.
06/20/2007 03:53:38 PM · #25
i am silverfoxx ( with two xx) everywhere.
my website's name is silverfoxx.org and it says: silverfoxx. photographer there
:)
i think it suits my "weird" pictures well.

love the Elemental Allure name!
Monica Mulder, photographer sounds wonderful, too.
they are just for different target groups.

elementalallure.com is a great name for a website btw
:)
it makes me wonder what i can see there and holds my attention

good luck to you Monica!!

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