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06/19/2007 03:02:07 PM · #51
Originally posted by roby21112:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by roby21112:

I'm with Rex


I'd have to agree mostly with Rex, bit would replace the 50m 1.8 with a flash.


I dont know the 50 is I think the best bang for the buck on the list.


Indeed it is, but the Tammy covers that focal length and a flash is definitely going to be needed, likely sooner than later.

The best bet would be to get BOTH the 50mm and the flash... but if crunched I'd have to advise the flash and then the lens.
06/19/2007 03:02:14 PM · #52
Originally posted by bdenny:

That's the thing. I'm still a total newbie with no specialization but an SO willing to drop some money.


I will start a thread for you.

//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=623321&page=1#3802222

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 15:07:27.
06/19/2007 03:04:29 PM · #53
Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

what about this one?

//www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Rebel-XT-f3-5-5-6/dp/B0007QKN22


That is fine. But now you have only $309 left


so is it like the same thing as you posted earlier?
06/19/2007 03:08:03 PM · #54
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

what about this one?

//www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Rebel-XT-f3-5-5-6/dp/B0007QKN22


That is fine. But now you have only $309 left


so is it like the same thing as you posted earlier?


Same exact camera only a brand new and not used. Used can be had for about $150 sheaper which helps your budget.
06/19/2007 03:08:25 PM · #55
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:


so is it like the same thing as you posted earlier?


Yes, but comes with a lens you will quickly throw in the unused part of you camera bag. Not worth the money.
06/19/2007 03:09:19 PM · #56
10D for $400 with a grip and lens.

//www.digitalgrin.com/showthread.php?p=576891#post576891

He just took it down.........?

Holy shit if I had some extra cash in paypal I would buy that. You would be crazy to pass this deal up. That would leave $500 for a Tamron and flash.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 15:14:06.
06/19/2007 03:11:25 PM · #57
Why not take a look at the Pentax K10D and K100D. Well known brand, good range of lenses and accessories. Also good prices.
06/19/2007 03:13:11 PM · #58
Originally posted by formerlee:

Why not take a look at the Pentax K10D and K100D. Well known brand, good range of lenses and accessories. Also good prices.


'Tax is definitely worth a look.
06/19/2007 03:15:12 PM · #59
Originally posted by rex:

10D for $400 with a grip and lens.

//www.digitalgrin.com/showthread.php?p=576891#post576891

He just took it down.........?

Holy shit if I had some extra cash in paypal I would buy that. You would be crazy to pass this deal up. That would leave $500 for a Tamron and flash.


is that camera just as good ast the other one?
06/19/2007 03:16:30 PM · #60
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:


is that camera just as good ast the other one?


IMO....better. But he took it down. Also take the time to check out Nikon, Pentax, and all the other brands. I only suggest Canon cause that is what I know.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 15:17:17.
06/19/2007 03:17:43 PM · #61
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

is that camera just as good ast the other one?


It would probably serve you well to do some research. As mentioned below, dpreview.com is a good source and there are several other good review sites. FredMiranda.com is a good one for lenses. It seems like it'd be important for you to know what you're getting and consider what features are important to you, aside from just "this is better" and "this is worse."
06/19/2007 03:18:04 PM · #62
Originally posted by rex:

I only suggest Canon cause that is what I know.


And cause it's the best. hehehe.... *runs away*. But seriously, look around and see what's best for you.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 15:18:40.
06/19/2007 03:21:33 PM · #63
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:


is that camera just as good ast the other one?


IMO, while the 10D is a better build quality than the Rebel XT, it's sensor doesn't perform as well as that in the Rebel XT in either noise or resolution. The Rebel XT has the same sensor as the 20D/30D.

I'd steer away from used gear also. Rebel XT's are fairly cheap new, since the XTi has been introduced.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 15:22:13.
06/19/2007 04:23:52 PM · #64
IMO it doesn't matter which camera you buy (as long as you know how to use it really well). The money has to go to the lenses. And the faster the lens the better.

Don't forget a softening device for your flash (Gary Fong dome, selfmade cheap stuff, lightsphere stuff, whatever) and a reflector. Reflectors make all the difference between a killer shot and dull crap.


06/19/2007 05:27:50 PM · #65
is this then lens you were talking about
Tamron 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical Lens & 75-300mm f/4-5.6 LD Lens
06/19/2007 05:29:08 PM · #66
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

is this then lens you were talking about
Tamron 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical Lens & 75-300mm f/4-5.6 LD Lens


No the Tamron is linked in my post. Just click the price. It is the 28-75mm f/2.8. A 2.8 lens will offer faster shutter speeds in lower light.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 17:29:31.
06/19/2007 05:31:15 PM · #67
Originally posted by Bugzeye:

The Nikon d-200 you would be more than pleased, And you would not have to switch over to the out crowd. lol Seriously The D-200 would perform 100% for wedding and portrait work.

The Canon would also do the trick.

The best way to go about it is,

1. Study lenses, Figure out which company makes the best glass suited for what you want to shoot.

2. Go to the camera store and get some hands on, Pick up a couple of cameras from each and see which one feels best in your hands, If you have alot of free time, Ask to try different lenses on each camera and kill two birds with one stone.

3. Then go buy yourself a new D-200 and enjoy.


could not agree more, i am saving for that D200, my birthday is coming , so this should be my treat:)
06/19/2007 05:33:05 PM · #68
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

is this then lens you were talking about
Tamron 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical Lens & 75-300mm f/4-5.6 LD Lens


Nope... here it is Tamron 28-75 f/2.8


06/19/2007 05:58:12 PM · #69
Originally posted by formerlee:

Why not take a look at the Pentax K10D and K100D. Well known brand, good range of lenses and accessories. Also good prices.


I don't know about your local shop, but mine only rents Nikon and Canon gear. That may be an issue, especially for someone who's just starting out, and isn't working enough to justify owning some of the higher end lenses.

edit: can't type.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 17:58:40.
06/19/2007 06:00:11 PM · #70
Check out DPReview.com for both cameras, the K100D is a Highly recommended 6 megapixel camera that outshine many other brands with 8 megapixels. Quoted from Formerlee in another thread

I did do a lot of research on the entry level DSLR's when I bought my K100D. From everything I read the K100D is one of the best entry level DSLR's for the money. I was sold because of the shake reduction feature (Especially good in low light) and the availability of great, older lenses. I have picked up a 28mm 2.8 and a 50mm 1.4 for less than 20 dollars each (With shipping). I am very, very happy with my purchase so far. One thing to remember though, especially if you are planning on taking this to the professional level is that you are buying into a system. Your camera will likely last you a few years, but your lenses can last you the better part of a lifetime. Canon and Nikon have more options available, especially at the higher levels.

That being said though, there are many professionals that love their K10D as well, and hopefully Pentax will continue to produce quality photography equipment. If they do, I will be with them for a while. The body of the camera (Although it does not seem it now) is not the biggest part of this investment(At least in the long run), the lenses are. Do not worry too much over your purchase though, as long as you take good care of your equipment it will retain it's value fairly well. If after a few years you are not happy with your choice you can always sell your equipment and jump ship to another system without taking a huge hit.

Oh yeah, and like the last person said, unless you live in a big market area do not expect to be able to find Pentax equipment easily in the local stores. With todays online shopping it is not too inconvenient to shop on the internet but sometimes you want to be able to run to the store and pick something up.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 18:05:30.
06/19/2007 06:18:12 PM · #71
I vote for Pentax K100D best value.
06/19/2007 06:31:17 PM · #72
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

is this then lens you were talking about
Tamron 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical Lens & 75-300mm f/4-5.6 LD Lens


Nope... here it is Tamron 28-75 f/2.8


is there a lens that is inbetween this one and 50mm 1.8 Canon that is better than 50mm 1.8 Canon but not as expensive as the tamron that is another good one to get?
06/19/2007 06:38:25 PM · #73
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

is this then lens you were talking about
Tamron 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical Lens & 75-300mm f/4-5.6 LD Lens


Nope... here it is Tamron 28-75 f/2.8


is there a lens that is inbetween this one and 50mm 1.8 Canon that is better than 50mm 1.8 Canon but not as expensive as the tamron that is another good one to get?


Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Macro.......
a versatile lens also sharper than either mentioned.
06/19/2007 06:42:06 PM · #74
If you need to save a bit of money, this is not a bad performing lens at all. Other than being a tad soft on the wide end, I'm quite happy with mine...and yes, I shoot weddings with it.

Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8-4.0 Aspherical DG for Canon

$129 at B&H

A good lens choice from Sigma is also the 28-70 f/28.8 EX DG EX is Sigma's Pro Line. This lens is $329

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 18:47:55.
06/19/2007 06:47:07 PM · #75
i was just looking at this one

//www.amazon.com/Sigma-55-200mm-Telephoto-Digital-Cameras/dp/B0001VQ12Y/ref=sr_1_24/002-9495412-5132040?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1182293029&sr=1-24
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