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06/19/2007 10:30:14 AM · #1
I'm thinking of buying a new camera as i've started taking some weddings and senior portraits, was thinking about the Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi 10.1 megapixal. Does anyone here have it or know anything about it. I'm not sure what to get, any other suggestions on camera type would also be appreciated. Thanks
06/19/2007 10:36:59 AM · #2
The Nikon d-200 you would be more than pleased, And you would not have to switch over to the out crowd. lol Seriously The D-200 would perform 100% for wedding and portrait work.

The Canon would also do the trick.

The best way to go about it is,

1. Study lenses, Figure out which company makes the best glass suited for what you want to shoot.

2. Go to the camera store and get some hands on, Pick up a couple of cameras from each and see which one feels best in your hands, If you have alot of free time, Ask to try different lenses on each camera and kill two birds with one stone.

3. Then go buy yourself a new D-200 and enjoy.


06/19/2007 10:37:00 AM · #3
If you are serious about weddings and senior portraits, buy the Canon 30d.
06/19/2007 10:37:41 AM · #4
If you're starting a business, shouldn't you know what equipment you need to do whatever work you want to do?

For portraits/weddings, personally, I'd get the Canon 5D and a selection of good lenses that suit your shooting style. Of course, if you're shooting weddings, you'll need at least 2 cameras and 2 flash units, not to mention a few sets of spare batteries. If you only have one camera, and something goes wrong in the middle of a wedding (trust me, it will) how are you going to explain why the newlyweds do not have any photographs of their wedding? Photographs you were hired to make.
06/19/2007 10:49:51 AM · #5
I'm with the crowd on this one, I love my xti and how light it is but the 5D is the way to go.
06/19/2007 10:52:14 AM · #6
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

If you're starting a business, shouldn't you know what equipment you need to do whatever work you want to do?

I understand that, i'm just trying to make somehing of my self and sometimes, you need a little help to know which way to go
06/19/2007 10:55:57 AM · #7
Budget?
06/19/2007 11:05:49 AM · #8
For the budget minded:

Canon 30d, or Nikon D200. Tamron 28-75|2.8 SP , Sigma 70-200|2.8 Macro EX. and a flash that bounces, Minimum.

If you're going for the gusto, get a 5d or a 1dMkIII (used 1dMkIIn would work) a 17-40L/16-35, a 28-70, and a 70-200L-IS, 2x 550ex/2 speedlites, 3x Pocketwizard trancievers, two ultra-collapsible frotto lightstands and flash brackets with some Westcott removeable back umbrellas, NP-E3 battery/s for the flashes, and about 5x4gig CF cards just in case. Oh, and a spare 30d for emergencies.

The 30D is IMO still better in highISO noise than the D200, which would benefit you. dpreview somehow got Noise comparisons that don't match my real-world ISO1600 tests ont the D200 :(

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 11:06:13.
06/19/2007 11:07:58 AM · #9
IMO Mega pixels mean little. Unless they are planning on making a billboard image to put in their living room then anything from 6 and up will be great. A 5D is rather expensive but probably the way to go. I would think you can find a 20D or a 30D or the Nikon equivalent and invest more money in glass. Glass is were the major money should go. But your most important decision before anything should be which brand?
06/19/2007 11:14:53 AM · #10
Canon EOS 400D what is this camera like?
06/19/2007 11:20:50 AM · #11
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

If you're starting a business, shouldn't you know what equipment you need to do whatever work you want to do?

I understand that, i'm just trying to make somehing of my self and sometimes, you need a little help to know which way to go


My point is that if you're at the point of starting a business in photography, you should have enough experience in photography to have a good idea of what equipemnt it takes to do the job.

You (and your future clients) would be better served by you figuring out how to gain that experience before signing up to shoot their once-in-a-lifetime events.
06/19/2007 11:23:19 AM · #12
Nikon D40 or Olympus E-510.
Both good and inexpensive. E-510 gives you IS in every lens.
06/19/2007 11:25:41 AM · #13
Hassleblad
06/19/2007 11:31:50 AM · #14
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Canon EOS 400D what is this camera like?


It is fine for snapshots. The Canon EOS 400D is not a camera for portrait/wedding photographers.
06/19/2007 11:34:36 AM · #15
Originally posted by quiet_observation:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Canon EOS 400D what is this camera like?


It is fine for snapshots. The Canon EOS 400D is not a camera for portrait/wedding photographers.


However there are many "non professional" wedding photographers that use 350 and 400D's for weddings all the time.
06/19/2007 11:37:07 AM · #16
Originally posted by quiet_observation:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Canon EOS 400D what is this camera like?


It is fine for snapshots. The Canon EOS 400D is not a camera for portrait/wedding photographers.


The type of body is important, but should not be confused to how to use the equipment.

Lens sets, the eye, the forethought, the execution make the image, ...not the body.
06/19/2007 11:38:00 AM · #17
I don't have a ton of money to spend is why i'm asking you guys, maybe I should just wait until I get rich...lol
06/19/2007 11:38:51 AM · #18
It all goes down to what you're comfortable shooting with.

Look at what you need to do for weddings/portraits, then evaluate the different camera options.

//www.dpreview.com is a good place to check out camera features and reviews. You can do side by side comparisons there as well.

In the end, go into a local shop and handle all those on your short list.

Good luck with your search and your business endevours.
06/19/2007 11:46:03 AM · #19
I have a rebel xti and I love it, I also have a rebel xt both are great cameras. I shooting weddings with both. Its a really good camera and no complaints at all from me.
06/19/2007 12:28:23 PM · #20
I've shot two weddings with my 20D and I had good results. Get some good lenses and you should be fine. Then after you start making lots of money from weddings, upgrade to better equipment. :P
06/19/2007 12:33:59 PM · #21
how about the Hasselblad H3D .... if you got an extra 30 grand lying around......
06/19/2007 01:02:36 PM · #22
Originally posted by quiet_observation:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Canon EOS 400D what is this camera like?


It is fine for snapshots. The Canon EOS 400D is not a camera for portrait/wedding photographers.


LOL! Why would you even say something mis-leading like that? Awful expensive camera just for snapshots. There are quite a few people on here that do weddings and potraits with the Rebel series of cameras and get quite nice results.
Maybe you just forgot to add the part about that just being your opinion

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 13:04:14.
06/19/2007 01:20:11 PM · #23
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

I don't have a ton of money to spend is why I'm asking you guys, maybe I should just wait until I get rich...lol


Then I suggest you buy a used Rebel XT which can be found for around $450-$550 US. Buy a 50mm 1.8 Prime lens for around $80. And if you have enough buy a Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 (around $300)

$550 - Camera
$300 - Tamron 28-75 2.8
$80 - 50mm 1.8 Canon

Total = $930

Which that can be made back in two weddings if all goes well. But make sure you do outside weddings. If not you will need a flash and that will add about $230 to your total. I think you just need to remember that the lenses are more of a commitment than anything.
06/19/2007 01:39:43 PM · #24
Originally posted by quiet_observation:

If you are serious about weddings and senior portraits, buy the Canon 30d.


Why? Seriously, think about it?

Honestly one would be better off with two Rebels (for shooting weddings) than one 30D. A Rebel is just as capable as a 30D at producing great wedding shots.


Message edited by author 2007-06-19 13:44:58.
06/19/2007 01:44:03 PM · #25
Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

I don't have a ton of money to spend is why I'm asking you guys, maybe I should just wait until I get rich...lol


Then I suggest you buy a used Rebel XT which can be found for around $450-$550 US. Buy a 50mm 1.8 Prime lens for around $80. And if you have enough buy a Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 (around $300)

$550 - Camera
$300 - Tamron 28-75 2.8
$80 - 50mm 1.8 Canon

Total = $930

Which that can be made back in two weddings if all goes well. But make sure you do outside weddings. If not you will need a flash and that will add about $230 to your total. I think you just need to remember that the lenses are more of a commitment than anything.


And if it doesn't go well, it could get very ugly. Ugly to the point of lawsuits. I cannot stress this enough: If you are going to be selling your services to shoot weddings, you need to have at least one backup body. People may tell you that you can do it with one body when you start and I'm sure lots of people have. However, if you are the unlucky one and your camera fails during a wedding and you have no plan B, your career as a wedding photographer will be very brief and, should the bride be angry enough to sue, it can be very expensive as well.
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